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Lufia -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/19/2008 10:11:30 PM)
Cherished, you are so gifted! I really love to read from you because Love is with you. I'm amaze! Really. It seems so natural for you. Oh i wish i could do the same. I prayed for you, that's the only thing i can do. I would really like to write something here but i have no talent for that so i pray ... Write Cherished write it is wonderful to read from you. The HS has givin you that gift for sure.

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/19/2008 10:23:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02 Once you get to know me a little better, then you will realize that tip-toeing on eggshells around my sensitivities is a bit like trying to mind your table manners at a hog's trough. I appreciate your tender heart, but rest assured that no one can offend me enough to send me running. I can take whatever anyone, especially you, has to say to me. Post freely, my dear. Well, I did see you and Jhud in quite the battle down in that current events folder, LOL. I feared that you both were headed for a TOS especially since Psalm 103, not too long ago, admonished us all to "please keep the discussions on a high level, intellectually"[:D] quote: God has "Mine" written all over your forehead. You mean that's not a birthmark? Sorry . . . go on: No...That was Michael Gorbachav...I did hear he became a Christian. Well, you are right in many respects. I still know what I know about the bible. I can still talk the talk even if I don't walk the walk. How many Christians walk the walk perfectly? Well, perhaps you can tell me what happened-- but only if it isn't too painful to recall. I don't want you shedding any more tears as a result of our dialogue. I have to believe what happened with your dad hurt alot more than you may have allowed yourself to feel? We do have a way of stuffing this stuff and never dealing with the pain. Regardless...no one just becomes a sceptic. No one just turns their back on God after God has touched their heart after He obviously touched your tender, young heart... quote: I have no doubt about the sincerity of your precious child's heart. But instead of it being tough, I say it is the simpliest thing a person can do I really think that it should be simple. I mean, if we can't come straight to Christ, then why did he let everybody else do it in the gospels? You are correct, for the most part, with some exceptions, as I pointed out earlier. But the people that came straight to Christ were either directly called by Him, such as the Apostles or in dire need of Him, or were considered the outcasts of society, for the most part. And even the Apostles were lowly fishermen.... Regardless, we cannot put Him in a box...He continues to have His arms outstretched to "whomsoever will"....He continues to have His arms outstretched to you...How long are you going to resist Him, Mike? quote: so somewhere along the line you were greatly ripped off and you were convinced that, what should be so simple and easy, you had to work for Well, quite frankly, doubt crept in. Ah...Been there/done that. Doubt does creep in - the enemy makes certain of that! And what, if anything, did you do to deal with that doubt? No need to tell me. Doubt, unchecked, can lead one into such horrible darkness that, noone who has not been there, can begin to fathom...For it is the very hiss of the enemy who tempted Eve with the words..."Hath God said"?....and from there the world was plunged into unbelievable darkness and sorrow....that only a Beloved Savior could rescue it from... When a boy starts to become a man, he begins to put away childish things. Paul said something very similar in 1Corinthians 13. When I started to get into adolescence, I realized that I didn't really know anything about the world. I realized that my child-like faith was just that: child-like. Jesus admonished such faith, but how foundational can it be in the face of an adult world full of adult realities, reason, unanswerable questions, and evidence that doesn't weigh in favor of your faith? Not to make light of this, please understand....But this is just one reason we are admonished to "fight the good fight of faith". It is a fight, it is a battle. As far as I know, it is the only fight we are called to engage in...And you are correct. It seems as if everything in the world fights against the faith we are called to believe. But really, what is this faith we are called to believe? What has helped me so much was when I finally understood that it is not my faith but it is my trust that this Jesus will be faithful to me against all evidence that appears contrary. For, Mike, He has been faithful to me. He has been so faithful to me...against all odds I have survived because of Him. This is called the blind faith of a true believer. I'm just not capable of this. So, I set about trying for many years to rationalize my faith. I finally gave up because I just can't do it, try though I may. I got no help from above, no special revelation of any kind, no Holy Spirit giving me the words, and so forth. I came up empty. We are not asked to a blind faith, my friend. Of course you cannot do it. None of us can do it. But you say you got no help from above....Really? What are you getting now? Why are you being singled out from the masses for God to pour His mercy and grace upon? Stop trying, please and ask Him to open your eyes to show you all the help He has given you in the past and now........Please???? He had the goods. He still does have the goods[;)]

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/19/2008 10:51:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lufia Cherished, you are so gifted! I really love to read from you because Love is with you. I'm amaze! Really. It seems so natural for you. Oh i wish i could do the same. I prayed for you, that's the only thing i can do. I would really like to write something here but i have no talent for that so i pray ... Write Cherished write it is wonderful to read from you. The HS has givin you that gift for sure. Ohhhh...you all are so sweet to me! I have been down for so long and recently felt in absolute despair, and you all are encouraging me sooo much that God still has a purpose for me and wants to use me on this earth. Yes...I do so love these precious souls! God puts such a love in my heart for them....for Mike and others. Thank you, all! Thank you all so much! P.S. Lufia...If you want to see more of my writings, I post more here...I started the thread under BelovedofGod but now am CherishedbyGod. You keep up that dream...He may use you in the same way also, someday... http://forums.christianity.com/m_1230561/mpage_24/tm.htm

Dakotasunbeam -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/19/2008 11:12:22 PM)
Discussions on the validity of the Bible, the existence of God always follow the same vein. Man's curse was the knowledge of good and evil. We thought we could be like "gods." Little did we know God had created us in His image already, and in essence that was what we were upon earth; to reign forever. It is the knowledge of good and evil that always twists men out of their belief in God. Satan, lied to Eve, telling her that she would know as God, when in actuality she would not. No one could have the knowledge or undertanding or the capacity to comprihend as God has. David says, "Such knowledge is too wonderful for me." Truly. Our search to "understand" is an age old problem that began in the Garden when the serpent suggested that Eve's knowledge was incomplete. What eve did not know, was that she would never be able to attain to God's vast cerebral holdings. Instead she would merely corrupt herself with incomplete knowledge and a gripping fear of evil. God asks us to come to Him as little children. And by no means will we enter the kingdom of Heaven without coming as such. A child is trusting and believes. God requires us to believe. Believing is a choice. God must give us a choice. Love is a choice. God offers us a choice so that He is not a cosmic dictator, forcing Himself on those who would or would not have Him. Even if so doing would be to their benefit. The Bible says that the Word of God is nonsense to unbelievers. God says He chooses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise. If you hold yourself to be wise in this world and its wisdom and knowledge, you may find that the Kingdom beholds him who has attained much learning as a fool. Because we will not know everything, nor understand everything, God requires a leap of faith. Christianity requires a leap of faith. But so many things require a leap of faith in our world, that such will not be an adequate defense for not believing the scripture and following Christ. In science, history, medicine, so much is not known that faith is necessary to bridge the distance. Have you ever spoken with a very knowledgeable and old scientist? I highly encourage it. They will be the first to tell you, that there is so much that doesn't add up and that they do not know or understand. Believing is a choice. God knocks, once, twice, maybe three times. This is a choice of the will. Just as one must will to love, one must will to believe. God does the calling and the knocking. It is up to us whether we will answer.

jckm -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 12:51:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cherished I have been down for so long and recently felt in absolute despair, and you all are encouraging me sooo much that God still has a purpose for me and wants to use me on this earth. I'm new here but have been reading a lot and when I read this I just had to let you know that many of the things you have said have had a lot of meaning for me. I am just starting to build my relationship with the Lord and I have had a lot of doubt and a lot of questions. You definitely have been given a gift and I pray you keep using it and I will be praying for you to feel better too[:)] CJ

aldrine -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 1:02:42 AM)
I CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN BELIEVING IN SOMETHING IS A MORE PERSONAL CHOICE RATHER THAN JUST DICTATED BY WHAT'S HAPPENING.Christ gives us this freedom to do what we want to do, whether good or bad,but he doesn't assure those who don't believe a life worth living as a follower of Him.

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 1:33:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jckm I'm new here but have been reading a lot and when I read this I just had to let you know that many of the things you have said have had a lot of meaning for me. I am just starting to build my relationship with the Lord and I have had a lot of doubt and a lot of questions. You definitely have been given a gift and I pray you keep using it and I will be praying for you to feel better too[:)] CJ Ohhh, thank you! I know that anything I have been called to go through is for the glory of God, for the helping of others and that God desires to reward me abundantly in the future. I will forever treasure people's comments here...God does know when we need building up and encouraging...and He always "appears" at the perfect time, when we need Him the most. I will print off people's comments to me from this thread and put them in my Bible, to be referred to during my days of darkeness. Bless you for taking the time to post your so-kind comments and for your prayers!

Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 8:25:45 AM)
Dear SonInMe1 1.) quote: ORIGINAL: SonInMe1 quote: So since I've not been called to be a apostles, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or teacher; I now bow out of this attempt at fellowshipping together ; we don't have the same mind (Romans 12:16). None-the- less, I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I am not sure what this means since my comments you commented upon were not directed at you. Is there a problem with what I siad... HUH?? My comments you commented upon were not directed at you either; I commented upon what I was agreeing with in your comment here [&o]: quote: I will be direct here and probably won't say this in the proper fashion so please excuse my poor wording....it might be possible you were never saved to begin with. You can know...about...God and be quite knowledgable...and not truly know God. You can do good works and be a "good" person..and not be saved. 2.) quote: quote: ORIGINAL: SonInMe1 we don't have the same mind (Romans 12:16). None-the- less, I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. quote: This disturbs me. Its...accusatory. Again this was Not directed at you; I was speaking to 1dblthnk02. And my meaning was: I was trying to reason and fellowship together with him, like I would one of my own children or grand-children sitting around our kitchen table, but I was made to feel like he was purposely baiting and debating and coming against everything I said with an attitude of: anger, sarcasm, and a superioritiness (which could have been a cover up) that made me feel like I was being taunted and played with; that the joke was on me --- that he really didn't care. I don't know what Your problem with my post was. Pat

1dblthnk02 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 10:47:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CherishedbyGod How do I do that quote thing and make it look all neat and tidy like you all do? There's actually a couple of ways to do it. I usually use the "quote" mode when I go to reply, and then highlight with my pointer the comments I want in the little quote box, then press the "quote" tab at the top of the reply box. The other way is to cut & paste the quote I want, then type the little quote brackets at both ends of it; just remember that the second bracket has to have the slash. quote: I cannot prove it, but I believe the man eventually returned to Jesus. Don't ask me why I posted that....I don't know It is possible that he returned, I suppose. And I think that I see your point. The young man had hangups: his riches. I have my hangups: my intellect. Of course, unlike the young rich ruler, I have never beheld Jesus face to face. quote: BTW, the scripture verse in my signature, He told me to give to you this morning....Take it...It is yours. Ah!- the 139th Psalm. Thank you, it's a beauty. quote: Well, I did see you and Jhud in quite the battle down in that current events folder, LOL. I feared that you both were headed for a TOS especially since Psalm 103, not too long ago, admonished us all to "please keep the discussions on a high level, intellectually" With him that just isn't possible! quote: No...That was Michael Gorbachav...I did hear he became a Christian. Seriously? I didn't know this. quote: How many Christians walk the walk perfectly? Hey, even people with a limp can still walk their walk. Others may need crutches, braces, walkers, or canes but they still manage. As for me, I'll just take the bus . . . quote: I have to believe what happened with your dad hurt alot more than you may have allowed yourself to feel? We do have a way of stuffing this stuff and never dealing with the pain. Well, my parents' divorce may have chiseled my cynical edge. But I still have a good relationship with my dad to this day. quote: Regardless...no one just becomes a sceptic. True. One must see the need for skepticism first. quote: No one just turns their back on God after God has touched their heart after He obviously touched your tender, young heart... I don't feel that I have turned my back on God. I feel that I have divested myself of an incorrect, or at least incomplete personification of God. quote: He continues to have His arms outstretched to you...How long are you going to resist Him, Mike? I do not resist him. He knows my name and number. If he is really up there, let him get ahold of me himself. I'm not being snide, either. If he could appear to Paul, "500 brethren at once," and Oral Roberts (900 feet tall, no less), then why not me? quote: And what, if anything, did you do to deal with that doubt? I looked for answers. quote: And you are correct. It seems as if everything in the world fights against the faith we are called to believe And yet the bible says that the firmament (?) declares the handiwork of God, and His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made in creation. The natural sciences have yet to uncover the clearly-seen-yet-invisible attributes of God, and the firmament is an archaic concept of the heavens that has long since been disproved . . . You see what I mean? This is an afront to reason and I can't just wave a wand and make myself comfortable with the contradictions. quote: But you say you got no help from above....Really? What are you getting now? Good question. The help I was refering to was the God-of-the -bible kind of help. But that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy another kind of grace from above. quote: He still does have the goods If so, I'm in a lot of trouble.

1dblthnk02 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 11:03:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dakotasunbeam Satan, lied to Eve, telling her that she would know as God, when in actuality she would not. I disagree. The lie was "Ye shalt not surely die." The rest of it was confirmed by God Himself: "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil" Gen.3:22 quote: God asks us to come to Him as little children. And this is precisley, literally what I did. quote: The Bible says that the Word of God is nonsense to unbelievers. But what about when it becomes nonsense to a believer? That was my situation. quote: Believing is a choice. Yes, but being convinced makes our choices alive. quote: ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady I was trying to reason and fellowship together with him, like I would one of my own children or grand-children sitting around our kitchen table, but I was made to feel like he was purposely baiting and debating and coming against everything I said with an attitude of: anger, sarcasm, and a superioritiness (which could have been a cover up) that made me feel like I was being taunted and played with; that the joke was on me --- that he really didn't care. I sensed that there was something between the lines of your posts. I'm sorry that you think I am being disingenuous. Again, I only started this thread at the behest of CherishedbyGod. I'm not doing any sort of trolling, although it may come across that way due to my cantankerous way of expressing myself. I apologize for the misunderstanding, and please forgive my bellicose slant. It's not worth carrying an offense for.

Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 11:48:31 AM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02 ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady I was trying to reason and fellowship together with him, like I would one of my own children or grand-children sitting around our kitchen table, but I was made to feel like he was purposely baiting and debating and coming against everything I said with an attitude of: anger, sarcasm, and a superioritiness (which could have been a cover up) that made me feel like I was being taunted and played with; that the joke was on me --- that he really didn't care. I sensed that there was something between the lines of your posts. I'm sorry that you think I am being disingenuous. Again, I only started this thread at the behest of CherishedbyGod. I'm not doing any sort of trolling, although it may come across that way due to my cantankerous way of expressing myself. I apologize for the misunderstanding, and please forgive my bellicose slant. It's not worth carrying an offense for. LOL [:D] Nothing to apologize for; I think I have become cantankerous in my old age, and just don't want to be a stumbling block to anyone --- I'd rather back off and be quite. I carry No offense; I pray you don't either. Pat

Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 12:21:38 PM)
P.S. One more thing, if you don�t mind; God corrects His children; He Never rejects them!! Others here will Not agree with me in this; but that's their problem not mine: Someday I wish you would sit down and study the Book of Hosea (O.T.), and while doing so see Ephraim (God�s love name for Israel; who we, Christians, are individually and corporately) and hear what He has to say. One of the things says to me is that �Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.� (Hosea 4:17) Why leave him alone? Because God is going to correct Ephraim Himself, and He doesn�t want anyone running interference for Him. He wants you, and all other Ephraims (including me when I goof up, which I do often), to ask of Him! After you ask Him, He will send to you those He calls to answer what you asked. It maybe one or more than one, but He will answer through them. If you haven�t heard or understood anything I have said up until now, it means I wasn�t called and all I did was run interference for God and that was a Big No-No!! Pat

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 1:00:10 PM)
quote: I disagree. The lie was "Ye shalt not surely die." The rest of it was confirmed by God Himself: "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil" Gen.3:22 Wow! I am impressed! You are correct, Mike. The lie was "Ye shalt not surely die" Satan told Eve she would know good and evil if she ate the forbidden fruit. Eve and Adam ate it and now not only did they "know" (experience) evil, instead of just good, as God intended, but every single human being has suffered the horrific pain of "knowing" (experincing) evil as a result of that sin.

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 1:33:40 PM)
quote: Of course, unlike the young rich ruler, I have never beheld Jesus face to face. Wouldn't you like to someday? It is the greatest longing of my heart. That beautiful face, so innocent and pure...those incredible eyes...so full of love, acceptance, compassion and tender-mercies towards us....towards you, Mike quote: With him that just isn't possible! (((gentle chuckle))) And you, my friend?[;)] quote: Hey, even people with a limp can still walk their walk. Others may need crutches, braces, walkers, or canes but they still manage. As for me, I'll just take the bus . . . I thought you prided yourself on your intellect. Not every Christian all the time "walks the walk". Certainly it is preferable but to think it is always so, is delusional. Taking the bus is the easy way. I challenge you to get back in the race, fight the good fight of faith with the rest of us because we need you! quote: I don't feel that I have turned my back on God. I feel that I have divested myself of an incorrect, or at least incomplete personification of God. Well, He promises that ~He is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him~. And He also says ~And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart~ Why don't you humble yourself and start seeking Him again, reminding Him and holding Him to His promises? God cannot lie to you, no matter what you currently think! To be continued...as I am about to lose this post..

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 2:22:43 PM)
quote: I do not resist him. He knows my name and number. If he is really up there, let him get ahold of me himself. I'm not being snide, either. If he could appear to Paul, "500 brethren at once," and Oral Roberts (900 feet tall, no less), then why not me? What do you think He is doing right now? Who are you to want to be privledged above the rest of us and have Him literally appear to you? He can do that, if He wishes, but perhaps you would be too puffed-up and could not handle it! Imagine that....a head swollen with intellect and having had Jesus appear to him, literally Methinks you might think of yourself as being the messiah[;)] quote: I looked for answers Good for you! I really mean that! quote: Good question. The help I was refering to was the God-of-the -bible kind of help. But that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy another kind of grace from above I'm not certain what you are refering to, but since you say this grace is from above, may I assume you recognize it is from God? "If so, I'm in a lot of trouble" - Mike Bulls Eye

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 2:46:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pstrdebi These are a group born of divisive spirits... set out to do one thing... cause strife and contention and bring division. God speaks of these folks quite regularly throughout the Word. The second group is one who may be Christians or seekers, but they are run by a spirit of chaos... they like to put stuff like this on the forums just to get a rise out of the other posters... and some are professional in what they do. I personally believe that this OP falls into one of the two latter categories. This man has done nothing of the kind. I sought him out and asked him to come up here from the current events folder because I wanted to hear more of his story and the Lord gave me His longing love for him. He has been gracious and kind to answer our questions. He was just enjoying himself down in the current events folder. I don't believe he had any ulterior motive. It is the Lord that is invading Mike's life; not Mike causing division or chaos on these forums....

blue1914 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 2:57:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pstrdebi I personally believe that this OP falls into one of the two latter categories. Only because I have seen TOO many very sincere seekers driven out of forums like this (even if they are not the original poster, they may just be lurkers looking to see the discussion because they have similar questions) by the infighting among those who claim the name of Christ, may I respecfully suggest that if anyone would like to make comments of a personal nature that are not related to the subject of the original thread, they do so either in PM or by creating their own thread of related material and inviting whomever they would like to join them via PM. Other than that, there are very clear TOS and we have some great mods who are diligent about making sure they are followed. So as not to be in violation of them (the TOS) myself, this will be my last off-topic post, God's best to you all!

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 3:41:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blue1914 Only because I have seen TOO many very sincere seekers driven out of forums like this (even if they are not the original poster, they may just be lurkers looking to see the discussion because they have similar questions) by the infighting among those who claim the name of Christ, may I respecfully suggest that if anyone would like to make comments of a personal nature that are not related to the subject of the original thread, they do so either in PM or by creating their own thread of related material and inviting whomever they would like to join them via PM. Other than that, there are very clear TOS and we have some great mods who are diligent about making sure they are followed. So as not to be in violation of them (the TOS) myself, this will be my last off-topic post, God's best to you all! I'll miss you, blue. You have been such a blessing. It has touched me greatly especially when I read you were praying about this thread, etc.

blue1914 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 4:05:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CherishedbyGod I'll miss you, blue. You have been such a blessing. It has touched me greatly especially when I read you were praying about this thread, etc. Oh, I'm not leaving-I'll just try to stay on topic going forward [:D]!

CherishedbyGod -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 4:10:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blue1914 quote: ORIGINAL: CherishedbyGod I'll miss you, blue. You have been such a blessing. It has touched me greatly especially when I read you were praying about this thread, etc. Oh, I'm not leaving-I'll just try to stay on topic going forward [:D]! You are more self-moderated than me. But thru many TOS's I was finally forced to learn...[:D] I think I am as stubborn as the one we are trying to bring back into the fold[;)]

Kath -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 6:20:27 PM)
Just a reminder, TOS 6 says in part 6. You will not harass, threaten, embarrass or distress users, either in the community itself or via personal email, phone, physical mail or in person. You will not engage in name-calling or personal attacks in the course of discussion or debate. Overall, promoting a spirit of divisiveness in the chat and forums community will not be tolerated. - Attacking the character or motives of someone who differs with your view or denying that he or she is a Christian is unacceptable.

SonInMe1 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 6:27:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SonInMe1 I will be direct here and probably won't say this in the proper fashion so please excuse my poor wording....it might be possible you were never saved to begin with. You can know...about...God and be quite knowledgable...and not truly know God. You can do good works and be a "good" person..and not be saved. So since I've not been called to be a apostles, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or teacher; I now bow out of this attempt at fellowshipping together ; we don't have the same mind (Romans 12:16). None-the- less, I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I was quoted and then it seemed you followed that up with comments about me. I apologise for misconstruing this

Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 7:10:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SonInMe1 I apologise for misconstruing this I figured that's all it was; You are forgiven!!

SonInMe1 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/20/2008 7:12:35 PM)
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1dblthnk02 -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/21/2008 4:17:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady Nothing to apologize for; I think I have become cantankerous in my old age Good. I like that in a person. quote: and just don't want to be a stumbling block to anyone --- I'd rather back off and be quite. I carry No offense; I pray you don't either. Nope-- none here. quote: P.S. One more thing, if you don�t mind I don't mind. quote: He wants you, and all other Ephraims (including me when I goof up, which I do often), to ask of Him! After you ask Him, He will send to you those He calls to answer what you asked. It maybe one or more than one, but He will answer through them. If you haven�t heard or understood anything I have said up until now, it means I wasn�t called and all I did was run interference for God and that was a Big No-No!! Or else you did your prescribed part which wasn't the whole enchilada, but it was your part in God's plans nonetheless. Who knows? Take a guess . . .

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