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jmjphe -> RE: CherishedbyGod wanted this (6/24/2008 2:41:32 PM)
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I will say first that I am a long winded person and this reply will be speaking in a very general sense.
I think at this point we are hitting on the underlying theme here. Alittle history of myself. I suffered from intense anxiety and panic, as well as sleepless nights etc. My mind wouldnt stop thinking and pondering, I chose to entertain each thought as if it were me moment by moment. I began to see a psycho-therapist once every two weeks. What was interesting is that he spoke using very little psychology, although some was used to therpize, and he did have a Masters in the subject. we spoke mostly about spirituality. My therapist, to my knowledge, isnt a Chrsitian man, nor does he follow any religous traidions. TO make a long story short, I discovered that I wasnt my mind. What I was doing was drawing my very identity off the contents of my conditioned brain. The tool (brain) was using me (the being beyond the mind and body) instead of me using the tool. I think that statement right there shows an awareness of awareness that rises beyond the minds comprehension.
I want to give what I feel would be a pretty broad explanation of "sprituality": essentially anything beyond the mind, supernatrual, things, ideas, concepts that cant really be broken down into stats, and figures, something that scientific logic cant be applied to, or atleast in a conrete fashion.
In every religon, beleif, tradition, one would be hard pressed to find one that doesnt have some view or outlook (good, bad, or indifferent) about spirituality. A vast majority of beleifs and religons dating back since we can account for, Show the human race's reltionship to this "other" realm, world, activity etc. in the form of gods, ceremonies, writings, traidtions and so on and so forth. I would argue that many supernatrual experiences were probably attributed confusion or lack of logical understanding, such as seeing a bear for the first time may induce some type of beleif its more than what it is. What I'm getting at is that the act of natrually pursiing the "beyond" is worth mention, and shows a innate reltionship to it.
The human brain will rationalize ALL of this stuff to its approval if given time and the data it needs. We should expect nothing less, it exsists in this physical plane bound by laws, properties, and logic. Drawing your identity from the brain will no doubt get you believing that we are just an organism trying to survive and live out our lives to one degree or another. Logic debates can pobably go on and on until we are out of breath. But beyond the thoughts and the mind is the being, the you, the I am, the timeless essence. You cannot logically explain this, you can only simply BE, feel it.
We have all sorts of works on the natrual world, how it works, old theories tested, new ones created and proven etc. We also have works on things that are beyond our minds. All beliefs have different takes on it but all point it. The underlying theme so this thread seems to be self-forgetfulness.
Without going on to much longer, I found Jesus Christ, and the meaning of life: knowing God, BEING with God, when there is silence of the mind, God is present. Trying to rationalize all this and identifying yourself to it will only create and empower a false self, the minds projected image, the ego...it works both ways. The conditoned mind will try to create a mental image of "God" as of now, when in fact we cant picture what cant be pictured. I could surely go on but I'll wait to see what ind of responses follow.
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