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henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 10:52:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jhud
This isn't about who he should pick, but predicting who he will pick. There are hot pockets on the table, so the question is, what is your prediction and are you in?


I don't know.

It's a dead heat between Romney and Jindal, I think.

I wouldn't be surprised if he picked either.

I'll say Romney, I guess, but I think I only have a 50/50 shot at being right.

I don't mind the odds, though, as I hate hot pockets.



Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 11:02:26 AM)

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I don't know.

It's a dead heat between Romney and Jindal, I think.

I wouldn't be surprised if he picked either.

I'll say Romney, I guess, but I think I only have a 50/50 shot at being right.

I don't mind the odds, though, as I hate hot pockets.


You know, come to think of it, like Jim Gaffigan I'm not that big a hot pocket fan. Perhaps we should up the ante?



Evangel70 -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 1:23:08 PM)

I still think Leiberman is a front-runner for McCain's VP. Although Romney is not far behind (and IMO would be a better pick).



todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 5:17:28 PM)

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If he does pick Jindal, though, I think [McCain will] be forced to shift his own strategy of playing to the middle. Picking someone as conservative as Jindal will be a signal that he's trying to win, like Bush, merely by playing to the core of the GOP. And I don't think that's a strategy that will succeed this year.


I agree 1001%.

As for McCain meeting with Jindal recently, Jack, don't count your hot pockets before they're nuked. McCain has a lot of advisors, and Jindal is among them. They could have been discussing anything.

I still think Charlie Crist or Romney will be McCain's veep choice. Not that I think either would put McCain over the top. People tend to vote for presidential nominees, not their running mates.



Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 5:19:56 PM)

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I agree 1001%.

As for McCain meeting with Jindal recently, Jack, don't count your hot pockets before they're nuked. McCain has a lot of advisors, and Jindal is among them. They could have been discussing anything.

I still think Charlie Crist or Romney will be McCain's veep choice. Not that I think either would put McCain over the top. People tend to vote for presidential nominees, not their running mates.


McCain is rumored to be picking his Veep this week. I am warming up the microwave and other neccesary houshold appliances.



todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 5:23:20 PM)

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McCain is rumored to be picking his Veep this week.


"Rumored" being the operative word there.

There's also rumblings that this "announcement" is a false leak by the McCain camp in an effort to draw media attention away from Obama's overseas trip.

By the bye, I'll take my hot pockets with ham & cheese. Thanks. [;)]



henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/22/2008 7:37:39 PM)

Here's a video of Novak elaborating on the leak on Foxnews:

http://rawstory.com//news/2008/Novak_Reprehensible_if_McCain_faked_VP_0722.html

He actually says that he suspects it might be a scam on their part to grab attention from Obama's foreign policy trip.

They better come through and announce it by the end of the week now, though.

It is going to make the McCain camp seem pretty desperate if the only thing they can do to grab headlines is lie (even Novak calls it reprehensible and desperate).

But I guess we'll know by the end of the week if they were telling the truth or not.



davemiller7 -> RE: VP predictions (7/23/2008 9:26:41 AM)

McCain should just back off this week and let Obamessiah have his day in the sun. There's nobody from the media around anyway. They're all slobbering over Obamessiah over in the middle east, and preparing for the second coming.

-Dave



todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (7/23/2008 7:11:05 PM)

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They're all slobbering over Obamessiah over in the middle east, and preparing for the second coming.


I seem to recall a similar, second coming-like public response by conservatives (both evangelical and corporate) over GW Bush's candidacy in 2000.



todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (7/23/2008 7:16:01 PM)

Hey Jack, better warm up those hot pockets for me (ham & swiss, just to clarify my tastes). I feel awful peckish! [;)]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/23/jindal-says-hes-not-interested-in-no-2-spot-with-mccain/



Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (7/23/2008 7:16:37 PM)

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I seem to recall a similar, second coming-like public response by conservatives (both evangelical and corporate) over GW Bush's candidacy in 2000.


Really? I was a pretty involved Republican at that time, and I seem to remember thinking, "Where did he come from?"

By the way, I think you one some hot pockets. [:@]



blessedinnyc -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 12:15:51 AM)

Anyone care to predict Obama's VP?

Given what we've seen, I think there's a chance it could be a dark horse candidate that is newer to Washington. (IE: Claire McCaskill) IMHO, Hillary seems unlikely.



henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 4:22:41 AM)

Maybe we all will be wrong.

It seems that McCain has been hinting about Pawlenty again:

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The noise about the possibility of Gov. Tim Pawlenty becoming GOP Sen. John McCain's running mate just went up an octave.

Wednesday morning, blogs and news sites began to churn with news that the Arizona senator, at a private meeting in New Hampshire, strongly hinted that he would choose Pawlenty as his running mate.

According to a Republican source, McCain told a gathering "out of the blue" that he thinks they are "really going to like" Pawlenty.


http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=353263&z=16



henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 4:25:42 AM)

Also, Newt Gingrich has recently implored McCain not to pick another "boring white guy":

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Newt on Veep: No more boring white guys

My colleague Ken Vogel has Newt's advice on who McCain should not pick as veep:

With speculation mounting that John McCain may be close to choosing his running mate, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Wednesday went public with his recommendations for the GOP vice presidential nominee.

First choice: Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal. Runner-up: Alasaka Gov. Sarah Palin.

“What I’m afraid of is that if Sen. McCain picks one more relatively boring, normal, mainstream Republican white guy … he just makes the ticket seem boring compared to the level of energy and drive and excitement that (Democrat Barack) Obama has,” warned Gingrich, himself a silver-haired, middle-aged white politician out of central casting.


http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=353263&z=16

I actually think Newt makes a lot of sense here and stick by my original belief that Sarah Palin would be the best pick.

As a democrat, though, I'm hoping he picks Romney.

Romney is the single most boring, unspectacular, pick that McCain could come up with. He would add absolutely nothing to McCain's campaign, and really wouldn't benefit him at all. He'd be a warm body filling a necessary office, nothing more.

I don't think Pawlenty would be much better, but at least he's young(er) and a fresh face.



henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 4:32:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: todd_t

Hey Jack, better warm up those hot pockets for me (ham & swiss, just to clarify my tastes). I feel awful peckish! [;)]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/23/jindal-says-hes-not-interested-in-no-2-spot-with-mccain/



He's a rising star and I think his day will come.

But he's young and has lots of time, so I suspect he doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a dying mule.

The odds all say at the moment that McCain will lose, so I don't think he'd benefit from a VP run.



davemiller7 -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 10:33:13 AM)

There may have been some conservatives, but the majority of us looked upon it as the lesser of two evils, much as we do today. I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain. Also, the media was definitely not in GWB's camp in 2000 nor in 2004. They were almost unanimously for Gore and Kerry.

-Dave

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ORIGINAL: todd_t

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They're all slobbering over Obamessiah over in the middle east, and preparing for the second coming.


I seem to recall a similar, second coming-like public response by conservatives (both evangelical and corporate) over GW Bush's candidacy in 2000.



Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 11:21:48 AM)

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Hey Jack, better warm up those hot pockets for me (ham & swiss, just to clarify my tastes). I feel awful peckish!


Yeah, I anticipated McCain picking Jindal, I didn't anticipate Jindal turning him down out of a sense of duty to his state. Curse those ethical and honorable public servants!

I am sure our governor will feel no such sense of obligation if he gets the nod.

Send me your address already.



ljmac -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 1:07:12 PM)

Obama has the unique problem of having nobody to choose from who has accomplished less and has less experienced. No matter who he chooses, the ticket will look upside down, with the iinexperienced, little accomplished person on top and the more qualified person on the bottom.



blessedinnyc -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 1:14:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ljmac

Obama has the unique problem of having nobody to choose from who has accomplished less and has less experienced. No matter who he chooses, the ticket will look upside down, with the iinexperienced, little accomplished person on top and the more qualified person on the bottom.

Perhaps he could pick LBJ as his running-mate.



SuspenseWriter -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 1:26:02 PM)

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Perhaps he could pick LBJ as his running-mate.


"Mah fellah Amurricans. Ah come to yew today with a heaveh heart. Sadly Ah cainnot be yore VP, as Ah have been daid for manah years..." [:D]



HighPlainsDrifter -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 2:23:52 PM)

I've heard Jimmah Carter floated as a potential for Obama, as he's still eligible. Let's all hope so. Carter can officially become the administration's special envoy to Ahmadinnahjacket, as long as he can keep from getting lost in the desert on the way to Tehran. Everyone buy sweaters and turn down those thermostats, so we can weather the energy crisis. Obama/Carter...let's party like it's 1979.



davemiller7 -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 5:41:22 PM)

You stole my thunder. I guess great minds think alike! [;)] Obama/Carter. Has a nice ring to it.

-Dave

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ORIGINAL: HighPlainsDrifter

I've heard Jimmah Carter floated as a potential for Obama, as he's still eligible. Let's all hope so. Carter can officially become the administration's special envoy to Ahmadinnahjacket, as long as he can keep from getting lost in the desert on the way to Tehran. Everyone buy sweaters and turn down those thermostats, so we can weather the energy crisis. Obama/Carter...let's party like it's 1979.



henny -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 6:22:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HighPlainsDrifter

I've heard Jimmah Carter floated as a potential for Obama, as he's still eligible.


It will never happen.

An Obama/Oprah ticket would be more likely than an Obama/Carter ticket.



todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 6:38:42 PM)

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Send me your address already.


Actually, if McCain picks Tim Pawlenty (as is rumored today) we'll have both been wrong on McCain's final VP nod.

So I guess that means we can split one hot pocket 50/50, as we'll both have been correct and wrong at the same time.



ljmac -> RE: VP predictions (7/24/2008 11:39:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc

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ORIGINAL: ljmac

Obama has the unique problem of having nobody to choose from who has accomplished less and has less experienced. No matter who he chooses, the ticket will look upside down, with the iinexperienced, little accomplished person on top and the more qualified person on the bottom.

Perhaps he could pick LBJ as his running-mate.



That's another reason we need someone with experience. Kennedy's foolishness nearly caused a nuclear war.

Kennedy tells a bunch of Cubans trying to get their country back to invade and he'll supply the air power. They go and weakling JFK betrays them by calling back the air force. He doesn't tell the expatriots. All of them are killed or captured. The Soviets recognize that America has an untested, indecisive, immature guy in the White House so they immediately make plans to put nuclear weapons in Cuba.

I wonder if the commies would have fooled with JFK if they knew he was on speed.

Maybe Obama should pick Robert Byrd. They've got so much in common, like a history of racial ignorance. At least for Byrd I think it's history. Obama's still living it.



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