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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 9:49:41 PM
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Ps103
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Couldn't the person who starts the Stalking thread for the person post a link in the monthly thread?
Absolutely!
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:06:15 PM
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SweetLittleErin
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My opinion on the whole deal...
I understand WHY is was not (not saying I like it) because people have been complaining about "too many mommy threads" for as long as I have been on CW. Its true, when I wasnt pregnant I thought there were alot, but I just realized that was the demographic. If there was someone who wanted to start another type thread, then go ahead, usually they get the same responses, whether they think so or not.
I DO NOT like how it was done, just bam they are moved, then all of a sudden they are gone. In a way, those were something special, almost a memior of the baby's birth. And esepcially for newly post partum mommies, a good way to get encourgement.
I do not like the PFY section. I never go in there, it took me several minutes to even FIND it today. Then my head was spinning with the 100+ page threads...
I do not sub to all the "talking" threads because I post at work and my online time is limited so its too "busy" for me to sub to all them, but that doesnt mean I didnt check in on them a few times a week or when I was thinking about that person. I liked seeing them so I could know to check on them. I do that with a lot of threads, cant really take the interest and time to sub to them, but I still like to see them then catch up real quick.
At first I liked the idea of the one stop thread, but after just a little bit of it, its dizzying to me. I cant keep the ladies straight.
I think, its been suggested many times, that maybe WO needs a sub-forum for pregnancy type stuff. Because there are some ladies who dont want to see it, whether its because they have no interest, or because they are struggling to conceive and it pains them (been there).
Anyway, thats my 2 cents. I just wanted to throw my opinion in there, I've been on both sides of the board...as a non-participating member in pregnancy type threads and as a participating member now. I just hope that the administration gives this just a little more thought and discussion and prayer, thats all I ask.
< Message edited by SweetLittleErin -- 6/23/2008 10:38:13 PM >
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:09:17 PM
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manda59
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quote:
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ORIGINAL: StephK
Couldn't the person who starts the Stalking thread for the person post a link in the monthly thread?
Absolutely!
But someone would have to trail through the monthly thread in order to find it. That's if they even knew it was there to look for.
And anyway, isn't that rather like someone coming to your door with some news ..........but instead of inviting them in for a cup of tea and a chat, you tell them that they have to drive a couple of miles away to talk about it there?
Also, exactly what would the Stalking thread in PFY consist of? Other than "I'm thinking of you" or "How are you doing?". And if the woman who was being stalked replied, she'd have to think about what she was allowed to say there about how she was, and what she wasn't allowed to say.
How practical is that? Don't you think it would just become too much bother?
< Message edited by manda59 -- 6/23/2008 10:15:36 PM >
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:09:26 PM
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Roberta_
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Was there any type of announcement done anywhere that announced this change was going to take place?
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:11:48 PM
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Karaboo2
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Roberta -- no there wasn't. I was in the middle of posting a reply to someone and the thread moved ... and then I went to post another reply later to someone else, and when I clicked on send, the thread was gone completely and I got an error message.
That is part of the reason for complaint ... no advance warning, so no one could make copies of their birth stories or anything else.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:13:21 PM
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Roberta_
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That is part of the reason for complaint ... no advance warning, so no one could make copies of their birth stories or anything else.
Thanks.
I didn't see an announcement, but I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt in case I just missed it.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:13:56 PM
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Sideways
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quote:
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Couldn't the person who starts the Stalking thread for the person post a link in the monthly thread?
Absolutely!
Then you're just constantly bouncing back and forth between links in the W/O folder to the PFY folder, one for generic info in individual threads, and the other for personal info in a general thread. Can't you see how ridiculous that is? Not to mention time consuming and confusing.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:15:05 PM
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Karaboo2
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I think we all just have to pray and hope that Fritz reinstates the individual personal threads, in a WO/PI subfolder specific to these threads.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:15:50 PM
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Roberta_
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Why wasn't there an announcement made?
Even a Q&A thread for a few days would've been nice.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:18:28 PM
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Karaboo2
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I agree ...
I was chatting with Stephanie this eve, and I mentioned that this whole thing had me so distracted and upset that I forgot to make and eat MY dinner tonight ... remembered to feed the kids, but totally forgot about myself (mind you, I was so upset I would've choked anyway)
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:33:51 PM
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Kath
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As far as I can tell the first 'stalking' thread was created in Sept 07, not even a year. This is not something that has been going on since the forums opened. Back then if someone had a question they asked it in the proper thread. We had threads for all sorts of topics. In fact in several of the stalking threads I've seen women refer back to the other threads. One woman in particular was told to stop posting questions in her own thread and start asking them in the right thread!
The folder is now inundated with these threads. The folder was not created with the idea that it was another Personally for You folder.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:46:46 PM
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phosadaud
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I don't post much in women's because: I'm not a mom, I'm not married and I really could care less about a lot of stuff that most ladies care about. 
That being said, I'll share my opinion: I would agree with you ladies that a sub-forum would really be great for pregnancy stuff. This is a huge time in a woman's life that is exciting, scary, difficult, rewarding, etc. I think that should be honored. This is a season in life that is truly miraculous and when women feel (and are) the most vulnerable. Again, support at this time is invaluable and I would imagine that those threads were a source of amazing comfort and support.
I don't know what the complaints were (like I said, I don't post much in women's), but I can understand that it could be overwhelming to want to discuss a women's issue that isn't related to pregnancy and babies and be overwhelmed by all the baby & pregnancy threads just as many of you felt overwhelmed in PFY. Again, it seems to me a sub-folder would be a perfect solution for this.
As far as being PFY, you won't find folks in there upset by them being there (I post a lot in there and have my own PFY thread), but I for one was shocked to see threads of such an intimate nature show up in that folder. It's one thing to start a thread in there and share personal things, it's quite another to start one in what you thought was a relatively "safe" area only to have it moved onto "main street". (although I think folks need to understand that any folder is public domain and men do read the women's folder so don't think you are in a private area where mixed company isn't  ). Then to have the threads deleted with no warning - well, if my PFY thread was deleted with no warning, I would be crushed. It has followed my life this past year or so with the ups and downs, with fun with friends and encouragement from friends, etc. It would hurt me terribly to lose that and my PFY thread isn't nearly as personal as the stalking threads. If I could hug each of you ladies who lost a thread, I would.
As far as subscriptions: I really, really, really encourage some of you ladies to learn how to do it (no matter what the outcome of this). It only takes a second to do but will really save you time. I personally set my preferences up so any thread I post in automatically subscribes me to that thread unless I choose to unsubscribe (which is a simply one click of the mouse to do). It's super easy and it really, really, really makes things easy to find, follow and keep track of - especially when you only have a few minutes to post.
So, just my 2 cents as someone who is detached from all of this, I would humbly and respectfully ask the powers that be to start a sub-folder in women's devoted to this time of life. From my standpoint, there really isn't a downside to that.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:47:04 PM
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Karaboo2
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ORIGINAL: Kath
The folder was not created with the idea that it was another Personally for You folder.
But this also begs the question as to why it was *just* the stalking threads which were moved, when other gals have things specific to them posted there for feedback from others (and I'm not referring to some of the more personal topics ...)
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:48:28 PM
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Sideways
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As far as I can tell the first 'stalking' thread was created in Sept 07, not even a year.
How recently the stalking threads started is irrelevant.
The fact is that a lot of people have poured their hearts and souls into those threads, and they were stripped away without any announcement, warning, discussion or debate. Women who've been getting a great deal of support from their threads come home from the hospital to find their thread gone.
There were a lot of stalking threads because there were a lot of new moms. Nobody was forcing anyone to read a thread they weren't interested in.
If there needs to be stricter control of the threads (like general baby questions should go into the Baby Chat thread), then fine. Still doesn't change the fact that this was handled badly.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:49:04 PM
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solo_soprano22
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I don't know what the complaints were (like I said, I don't post much in women's), but I can understand that it could be overwhelming to want to discuss a women's issue that isn't related to pregnancy and babies and be overwhelmed by all the baby & pregnancy threads just as many of you felt overwhelmed in PFY. Again, it seems to me a sub-folder would be a perfect solution for this.
True.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:50:15 PM
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Karaboo2
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ORIGINAL: phosadaud
As far as subscriptions: I really, really, really encourage some of you ladies to learn how to do it (no matter what the outcome of this). It only takes a second to do but will really save you time. I personally set my preferences up so any thread I post in automatically subscribes me to that thread unless I choose to unsubscribe (which is a simply one click of the mouse to do). It's super easy and it really, really, really makes things easy to find, follow and keep track of - especially when you only have a few minutes to post.
I *do* subscribe to the various threads ... but subscriptions have issues too ... I mean, there was one day where I couldn't log in through CW, so I used FCN ... because it was a different portal, my subscription list didn't come up. To resubscribe to all the threads in each individual portal is more hassle than it's worth.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:54:25 PM
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ta_mosquito
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Kara - are there other threads in there dedicated to following one person's journey (or just focused on one person)?
If someone has a personal question, like about something physically happening to them, that's different than threads that are specifically designed to follow someone and focus on that one person. They're not for asking a question and getting opinions; they're for personal support and care.
That's the difference.
< Message edited by ta_mosquito -- 6/23/2008 11:00:38 PM >
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:55:03 PM
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Ps103
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How recently the stalking threads started is irrelevant.
Actually, it is *the* relevant point.
There is a folder specifically for personal threads.
There is a subscription feature to track threads.
If you subscribe to threads, you can also go to a page that updates the page so that you know when one of your sub has been posted to--you can even have it ring a bell, for heaven's sake. Talk about a time-saver.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:57:36 PM
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ta_mosquito
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I mean, there was one day where I couldn't log in through CW, so I used FCN ... because it was a different portal, my subscription list didn't come up. To resubscribe to all the threads in each individual portal is more hassle than it's worth.
The subs are cross-portal. I don't know what your experience was, but when I log in through another portal, I still have my subscriptions.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:59:50 PM
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Sideways
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quote:
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How recently the stalking threads started is irrelevant.
Actually, it is *the* relevant point.
There is a folder specifically for personal threads.
There is not a folder for personal threads that is female-only.
If the point is to provide support and encouragement to a woman going through labor, delivery and the first days of motherhood, then a mixed gender forum is hardly the most appropriate place, considering the topic at hand.
Hence the sub-folder proposal.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 10:59:48 PM
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Karaboo2
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Maybe it was just a system glitch ... I just found it very frustrating when I was looking for a particular thread I was subbed to, and had to use the search feature instead of just going to my sub list.
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RE: Feedback on WO-personal - 6/23/2008 11:08:07 PM
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I can think of a few threads that are more of a PFY thread; however, they were not touched....nor should they be. Ie: one lady is going to have a hysterectomy in a few months...that's watching the journey of how she's going through her last pregnancy and then going to have childbearing taken away. Another woman found out she had cancer and so some have been following her through that thread. What's the difference?
We are here to encourage one another and to build one up. If it is a PERSONAL woman's issue...it SHOULD go in a folder with the other women's personal issues...whether a sub-folder or whatever. I don't think any man wants to read about a woman having a hysterectomy or her daily mucous report or stitching up a vaginal tear, etc. That's a woman's "private" intimate issue. What about a private "intimate" board? In another forum site, we have that...and people can choose to go read in the threads or not....
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