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atheistinpeace -> RE: Ask an atheist! (6/26/2008 5:13:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tsnody2001
the first primitive cell.... Have you ever considered irreduceable complexity? This "primitive" cell, how did it live while the very components it needs to live are evolving (by blind, unintelligent chance by the way). For example, every human needs a functioning brain, heart, and lungs (plus a whole bunch more) to live. How does the body function while these parts are "evolving"? One other question, how do scientists know the conditions of this earth billions of years ago to conduct these so-called experiments, when they won't even accept a lot of eye-witness accounts of history because it makes somewhat of a joke out of you theory? Plus, producing some useless amino acids in a dish is nothing compared to creating the universe out of nothing with a spoken word. And they're not even using their own material, but material created by God. They're using HIS material to disprove Him with. By the way, UNI = single, VERSE = spoken sentence; UNIVERSE = single spoken sentence. Well, isn't that amazing? You were created as a result of God's spoken voice, and the amazing part of it is, God loves you so much, even though he knew you would reject Him, He still created you, and before He put you together in your mother's womb, He became a man so that HIS blood could pay for YOUR sin and MY sin. THAT is LOVE. THAT is amazing grace.
I'll respond selectively:
I'll simply encourage you to research irreducable complexity. It's been shown to be a massively shaky argument. Kenneth Miller, a practising Christian, was (to the best of my knowledge) one of the key figures who disspelled this idea when the Dover court case over ID was going on. (Not that the court case concerned IC; I think it all went on at the same time, and Michale Behe, who argues strongly for IC, was a witness in the case.)
The organs you mention do not evolve while the body is functioning. What happens is that, between generations, there will be random genetic mutations (so nothing changes while the person is living). These mutations will affect how the person with those genes functions. If those mutations confer an advantage, then nature will select in favour of those with those mutations (i.e. the original + descendants - as I understand it) - that is, those with the favourable mutations have a better chance of surviving, and will therefore pass on their genes. Conversely, a mutation that leads to a disadvantage will die out. Whole books have been written on what I've tried to condense into one paragraph, so I'll stop there!
Better than the fact that scientist can re-create conditions on earth several billion years ago is the fact that scientists can recreate the conditions of the universe when it was something like 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 seconds old. Now that is clever...
AiP
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