hellohellohi
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Well, let's stick to the OP. You might as well read my other posts if you are curious about my beliefs. Maybe I will also appear obscure as I have accused you, dunno.
But to respond and hopefully get back to the OP as well:
I get pretty suspicious whenever someone starts a sentence with:
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The Christian walk is really about
...as opposed to what most people say? Maybe. I'm not saying you are wrong or lying -- I am just rather xenophobic when it comes to other people's ideas.
However, I would like to know more about the rest of your statement:
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accepting and becoming this “new” identity that we have invited into our being.
What do you mean by identity? Identity COULD mean that web of narrative that anyone spins about the concept of self during their lives. Or, perhaps you mean it an another technical sense as basically a synonym for pattern of agency or criteria for actions. Such as, if when we are saved our criteria move from those of sin to that of God, then I could agree with you that being saved or born again involves taking on a new identity. If it means that we have physically changed -- I would be skeptical. Perhaps. If however you understand the physical change as emanating from the changed or reborn agency, then I would definitely agree. Edit: However, that stuff about wineskins in the other thread is rather interesting! Perhaps we are physically transformed, perhaps that is the purpose of baptism -- but this gets into the dangerous waters of testability, which I feel strongly that God is not inviting us to engage him in. What changes? The agency/body interface? What is that? Is that what you are interested in when you raise questions about QM?
The second part of the statement involves the word "invite" -- as in we invite God into our hearts. I would disagree with that phrasing but be quick to forgive it -- I would suggest that God calls us and invites us rather than we Him.
This is the kind of thinking that I jump on to say "contradiction." If there is some corruption of agency or chaos then i am not sure how it can pull itself out of its situation through any self-exertion. Of course, one might not see it this way if one emphasizes that the only act of free will is to call upon God -- that is, to give up one's will. That is rather sensible.
Now, how does this relate to QM?
< Message edited by hellohellohi -- 7/4/2008 9:25:10 AM >
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