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Isaiah29 -> RE: The Growing List of Obama Endorsements (7/1/2008 8:11:23 PM)
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I'm not sure why anybody would want to be endorsing the same guy as those who have vowed to kill us are endorsing, but after reading some of the posts on these forums, nothing surprises me anymore.... Here's the problem with that view: these aren't your run-of-the-mill campaign endorsements. The dictators and terrorists in question aren't (relatively) honest statesmen delivering their opinion in public. They are declared enemies who attempt to manipulate us. They're not stupid. They expect that if they stand up and announce they want to see Obama in the White House, a large number of people are going to reconsider voting for Obama on that basis. If they really, really desperately wanted Obama in the White House, I have to think they fully realize that the smartest thing to do would not be to make their support public. Voting on the basis of who will best lead a country in a confrontation is perfectly valid, and I can certainly see that decision swinging in favour of McCain. But we really shouldn't let manipulative foreign tyrants push us towards anything. The list, furthermore, seems to have a disturbing number of pretty vague entries. Castro's, for example, is a weird bit of doublespeak, but he eventually gets around to accusing Obama's platform of being "hunger for the nation, remittances as charitable handouts and visits to Cuba as propaganda for consumerism and the unsustainable way of life behind it." The Kim Jong-Il link doesn't actually have any statements from Kim Jong-Il himself, and the strongest claim made is that the North Korean in question would prefer Obama because he'd be more willing to negotiate (true, but I think we already knew that and hardly needed the North Koreans to tell us). And so on and so forth. I'd be a little more worried about some of the other, domestic parts of the endorsement list, and even then, I'd be a lot more worried about the issues than about the people lining up behind them. Greetings fiat-lux, I agree that some of the links are somewhat vague. For instance, the Castro link comes from the New York Times, thus explaining the "weird bit of doublespeak". I probably should have done a better job of screening the links. However, when a link does seem vague, I encourage you to further explore each particular endorsement on your own. In many cases there are multiple articles discussing the endorsement. The list was never intended to be the last word on Obama's endorsements, but rather a platform for discussion on the various individuals and groups who's favor Obama attracts. For example, leaving the petty dictators aside, why does Obama seem to attract so many marxist and terrorist groups' support? Could it be that there is a certain level of sympatico with his ideology and policies? And if so, what does that portend for the nations future, as we are currently engaged in an external war with Islamic extremism, and an internal struggle against encroaching Marxism (embodied by progressive socialism and environmenal nazism)? Indeed, each individual endorsement could foster an entire discussion on its own. For instance, does Al Gore's endorsement suggest that Obama has bought into Gore's global warming hoax? His statements seem to indicate that he has, (although to be fair, so do McCain's), and if he has, will he suppress the use of energy in the country by driving up the cost through cap and trade and limited supply? Do we see energy rationing in our future, and if so, what will that do to our already struggling economy? Or does Naral's and Planned Parenthood's support indicate that Obama favors murdering babies, (ie. abortions, especially live birth)? Obama's legislative track record in the Illinois State Senate suggests that he does. Indeed, read Jill Stanek's excellent article on the subject at World Net Daily: http://www.jillshttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51121 as well as numerious others: http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=28131 http://www.humanevents.com http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/infanticide-is-an-obamanation/m/article.php?id=18647 You were certainly right to state that there are reasons to worry about the domestic issues that are raised by the list of endorsements, but whether foreign or domestic, America is headed into some very difficult times, and we have a lot of enemies home and abroad, whether we would like to admit it or not. Sticking our collective heads in the sand and wishing them away will not solve the problems we face. I long for a strong leader who has the wisdom and the courage to confront these problems and make the difficult decissions that are necessary to lead us through these difficult and dangerous times. However, when I survey the political landscape, all I see politicians who are tall on rhetoric, but short on actions; and the only ones I see truly committed are the ones committed to communism instead of capitalism, environmental nazism instead of democratic freedom, and secular humanism instead of Christianity! "And now she is planted in the wilderness, in a dry and thirsty ground. And fire is gone out of a rod of her branches, which has devoured her fruit, so that she has no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a lamentation, and shall be for a lamentation." Ezekiel 19: 13-14 In Christ, Ariel
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