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RE: July Singles Chat - "The eyes of ARKANSAS are ... - 7/5/2008 11:35:21 AM
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Grace-N-Mercy
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lisa....you better be in bed (again)!
Yes, Kimberly, I was - thank you! Actually, I just woke a short while ago (about 3 hours, not 4, but it's okay). And yes, I DO need my rest for tonight.  Michelle is getting to meet 2 longtime friends of mine. (Poor Michelle!) LOLOLOL We're going to Saddlebrook Resort.
i heard. y'all have a GREAT time!!! (i suppose it's too much to ask you to TRY to stay outta trouble???)
on that note.....shuts off computer and runs away laughing....as if!!!!
ps...i'm taking my laptop...so i'll be checking on y'all later!
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, RIGHT, US stay out of trouble? Impossible!!!!!!! Michelle's a fiery redhead, and you've got me, then there's one friend who has known me since I was a baby Christian (and who the other friend always asks us when we're getting married) and who always tries to embarrass me.
ROFLMHO!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, sounds like it's gonna be a fun night!! *Must remember to bring camera/video recorder* 
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guarantee that Lex is going to try to get me and Neil out on the dance floor. Guaranteed! Oh no! What have I done???????
Ladies and Gentlemen... video at 11.
Oh, and I like this Lex guy already!
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 12:39:22 PM
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court has just required them to hand over ALL of their logged IPs,
All of them? These courts just have no conception of scale.
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Lawyers for Google Inc., which owns YouTube, said producing 12 terabytes of data -- equivalent to the text of roughly 12 million books -- would be expensive, time-consuming and a threat to users' privacy.
Does Viacom have the time and money to sift through 12 terabytes of data? This is what I meant by no conception of scale.
And by the way, whoever said the government looking in on us, that doesn't seem to be quite right in this case. It appears they are being ordered to hand these records over to another corporation, which is suing YouTube.
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 12:44:38 PM
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court has just required them to hand over ALL of their logged IPs,
All of them? These courts just have no conception of scale.
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Lawyers for Google Inc., which owns YouTube, said producing 12 terabytes of data -- equivalent to the text of roughly 12 million books -- would be expensive, time-consuming and a threat to users' privacy.
Does Viacom have the time and money to sift through 12 terabytes of data? This is what I meant by no conception of scale.
And by the way, whoever said the government looking in on us, that doesn't seem to be quite right in this case. It appears they are being ordered to hand these records over to another corporation, which is suing YouTube.
They'll probably just pull a few "as an example", but especially at colleges trying to sue them for some type of copyright infringement or something.
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 12:48:46 PM
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court has just required them to hand over ALL of their logged IPs,
All of them? These courts just have no conception of scale.
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Lawyers for Google Inc., which owns YouTube, said producing 12 terabytes of data -- equivalent to the text of roughly 12 million books -- would be expensive, time-consuming and a threat to users' privacy.
Does Viacom have the time and money to sift through 12 terabytes of data? This is what I meant by no conception of scale.
And by the way, whoever said the government looking in on us, that doesn't seem to be quite right in this case. It appears they are being ordered to hand these records over to another corporation, which is suing YouTube.
They'll probably just pull a few "as an example", but especially at colleges trying to sue them for some type of copyright infringement or something.
See? That's the stupid thing. Of course college IPs are going to be high on the list. But they're also among the least likely to keep accurate records of who accessed what from their internal network, which is almost certainly masqueraded.
Then the colleges are going to do something stupid to counteract it (probably just blocking Youtube's IP, or worse... don't get me started).
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 12:52:47 PM
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See? That's the stupid thing. Of course college IPs are going to be high on the list. But they're also among the least likely to keep accurate records of who accessed what from their internal network, which is almost certainly masqueraded.
Then the colleges are going to do something stupid to counteract it (probably just blocking Youtube's IP, or worse... don't get me started).
I think that they would target colleges for 2 reasons: easy to get records and they know that they can probably get the accused to cough up some money too.
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 2:09:53 PM
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I'm chatting with a referee friend right now. 
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RE: July Singles Chat - The eyes of the RIAA, I mean, V... - 7/5/2008 4:53:38 PM
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court has just required them to hand over ALL of their logged IPs,
All of them? These courts just have no conception of scale.
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Lawyers for Google Inc., which owns YouTube, said producing 12 terabytes of data -- equivalent to the text of roughly 12 million books -- would be expensive, time-consuming and a threat to users' privacy.
Does Viacom have the time and money to sift through 12 terabytes of data? This is what I meant by no conception of scale.
And by the way, whoever said the government looking in on us, that doesn't seem to be quite right in this case. It appears they are being ordered to hand these records over to another corporation, which is suing YouTube.
What I believe is going on is Viacom's purpose is twofold: firstly they're interested in the people posting copyrighted videos - hence the bit about them being after usernames as well as IPs (since you don't need a username to view them). Those people could thus become targets of prosecution themselves. And secondly, I believe they hope to use the usage information (who viewed what) to prove that the bulk of videos viewed are copyrighted works, and thus YouTube is deriving revenue primarily from copyright infringement.
Mind you that's just speculation, but it makes the most sense in the context of the lawsuit. That doesn't change the fact that marketers would kill for that info should it ever escape into the wild. And even though it's a huge amount of data, it's not a difficult programming challenge to automate the data mining. (For example, since YouTube videos have descriptive tags, it's fairly easy to tally up the most frequently viewed tags by any particular IP. Associate that IP with a name, then they have an idea about what interests that person. Cue the spam.)
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RE: July Singles Chat - The onus of protecting our priv... - 7/5/2008 5:10:13 PM
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the context of the lawsuit. That doesn't change the fact that marketers would kill for that info should it ever escape into the wild. And even though it's a huge amount of data, it's not a difficult programming challenge to automate the data mining. (For example, since YouTube videos have descriptive tags, it's fairly easy to tally up the most frequently viewed tags by any particular IP. Associate that IP with a name, then they have an idea about what interests that person. Cue the spam.)
You know, as annoying as that prospect is, targeted spam is the least annoying kind. The most annoying is the *-them-all-and-let-God-sort-them-out types, which seem to be the most likely to contain misspellings and other annoyances.
But anyway... "Look, a spammer! Shoot it!"
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RE: July Singles Chat - The onus of protecting our priv... - 7/5/2008 6:22:36 PM
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Well, slight change of plans. We're still going, but my one friend will not being joining us - much like your friend, Kimberly, he's in mega pain tonight. So, it's girls night out - BY THE POOL!!!!!!!
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RE: July Singles Chat - The onus of protecting our priv... - 7/5/2008 6:26:09 PM
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Ok ladies and gents, you drove me to it! Rick Dees claim to fame Disco Duck!
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