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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/4/2008 5:46:07 PM
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faroukfarouk
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Mrs.Wifey:
I guess you sound like you're 'pretty picky' as well about where you are tattooed and how and by whom, right?
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Yup. My guy is pretty picky about who and what he tattoos, he won't do ANY minors even with parental consent and he won't do anything below the wrist or above the shoulders. He also said he prefers when people bring him a design they have sketched, or found on the internet and fell in love with rather then picking a piece of flash off the wall.
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(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/4/2008 10:41:51 PM
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how do you investigate without angering them? i found right now a great artist (and a new parlor). i told him the ordeal and asked to see their autoclave. how do you watch them ink someone? most places i went to wont allow it. i want to watch him but i dont want to anger or push him away. i talked to people who got inked by him and this one girl told me that they clean everything there and that she had 6 tattoos done by the artist i'm looking at with no problems.
The place I go to, the floorplan open enough to where you can see what is going on when you walk right in the door. So, I didn't have to ask, since I could see what was happening. Also, if they get angry by questions, then they aren't someone you want to deal with anyway. The way I look at it is how I look at potential hires--they work for me and if I am going to pay them, then they better prove they are qualified and the person for the job. When it is my health or safety, I am not going to jeopardize that out of fear of making them angry. My background also makes it easier to spot what they might be doing that isn't so sterile. They actually were very understanding and wanted me to be at ease about the process--that is the sign of a true professional. They also have no problem with people watching, since some people are very uncomfortable, especially those getting their first tattoo, so it helps them to know what to expect.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/4/2008 10:48:36 PM
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spdrgrl.603
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quote: Starbucks880
"My background also makes it easier to spot what they might be doing that isn't so sterile."
any tips on how to spot a health risk from your background? i know i already listed all my artist's screw-ups and posted some links but i'm sure i'm probably missing something....
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/5/2008 8:47:49 AM
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how do you investigate without angering them? i found right now a great artist (and a new parlor). i told him the ordeal and asked to see their autoclave. how do you watch them ink someone? most places i went to wont allow it. i want to watch him but i dont want to anger or push him away. i talked to people who got inked by him and this one girl told me that they clean everything there and that she had 6 tattoos done by the artist i'm looking at with no problems.
If asking important health/safety questions angers (or even annoys) the person- that would be a HUGE red flag!
Where my dd got her piercing, the tattoo area had a window where anyone could watch. someone was there getting a tattoo while we waited, in fact.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/5/2008 11:02:40 AM
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spdrgrl.603
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yeah maybe i should add getting annoyed (cursing at me repeatedly) to my list. the artist i had got really angry when i started looking closer and asking questions. my new artist lee however never got mad! i told him i planned on more tattoos but now i'm scared of them and this is my last one.... he was sweet showed me their autoclave, told me he hoped to unscare me. i had to leave for a doctor's appointment and he quickly stopped me to show me his portfolio. he never made me feel bad or cursed at me. i went back the other day to give him the photo (i will eventually post a pic of my infamous tattoo but for now there's a link at the bottom with a picture. the elements revolve around jesus and peter and the ocean waves aren't calm but are drawn japanese style with God as a dove above Jesus and clouds again in japanese style filling the rest of my arm, going around my 4 year older tattoo and capping my elbow). sometime next week i'm going to see how he works. overall he was very nice.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/5/2008 11:40:59 AM
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faroukfarouk
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TaraP:
I can certainly see what you mean, yes.
Do you think that some people (tattooees or piercees) there might be a privacy issue if it's all on view?
I guess some ppl wouldn't mind at all, though.
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: rainbowtvp
If asking important health/safety questions angers (or even annoys) the person- that would be a HUGE red flag!
Where my dd got her piercing, the tattoo area had a window where anyone could watch. someone was there getting a tattoo while we waited, in fact.
Tara P
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(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/6/2008 2:47:43 PM
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Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience. I also looked closely at the design and execution--most were good but some were worse than awful. I also went on line to get info on the shops I was considering.
When I decided on the artist I wanted I called to make an appointment and had to go for a consult first--this was my first tattoo. I got to watch him do a tattoo and talked with him awhile and had time to check out the shop. I had a great experience and plan on another tat in the near future.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/6/2008 3:00:18 PM
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faroukfarouk
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thedivabrat:
Sounds like it was well researched first of all. (Some ppl just rush into getting a tattoo.)
So was it a faith related one maybe? I guess that you are satisfied with your first (safety aspect, etc) because you dont seem to have any qualms about getting your second one.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience. I also looked closely at the design and execution--most were good but some were worse than awful. I also went on line to get info on the shops I was considering.
When I decided on the artist I wanted I called to make an appointment and had to go for a consult first--this was my first tattoo. I got to watch him do a tattoo and talked with him awhile and had time to check out the shop. I had a great experience and plan on another tat in the near future.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/6/2008 4:49:48 PM
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thedivabrat
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thedivabrat:
Sounds like it was well researched first of all. (Some ppl just rush into getting a tattoo.)
So was it a faith related one maybe? I guess that you are satisfied with your first (safety aspect, etc) because you dont seem to have any qualms about getting your second one.
I am not sure well researched but well thoughtout. No it is niot a faith related one. It is a butterfly--reason for the flutterby is I got it to mark my 60th birthday--I am out of the cocoon and free to fly in the last third of this life.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 8:53:33 AM
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If a tattoo artist gets defensive when asked about sterilization and universal precautions, then that is an artist I wouldn't have anything to do with. (Red flag, as someone already pointed out.)
Unless someone gets a red flag tattooed...
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(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 4:22:35 PM
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miasma
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There should never be any situation, tattoos, haircuts, doctors, any time that someone gets angry because you are asking questions about how they do what they do.
I'm fairly flabbergasted at that list. So I'll just skip commenting on it.
Even among highly qualified/licensed/experienced tattoo givers/receivers, there are varying opinions as to aftercare. And how they should be done. For example, those open-air parlors, like on Miami Ink = big no. All those raw wounds being created in an big open space, with people coming in and out all day...would you have surgery, in a place like that?
Cain occasionally speaks at health fairs and to classes about tattoo parlor health codes, an issue in which he takes pride. Any interested customers that enter his parlor will receive a copy of his latest health inspection.
“I’m not required by law to show [it] to anyone, but I do because I think it’s important,” said Cain. “It’s basic health information, but most places won’t show you it. If you get a tooth pulled the dentist has to warn you of what could happen, but not tattoo artists.”
Where you get tattoo'd should be a sterile environment. Not just the needles, but the person should wear gloves (and a mask), all surfaces should be clean, etc.
in the state of TN all tattoo establishments get inspected 4 times a year. NC state inspection happens once a year for tattoo establishments (ridiculous considering restaraunts get inspected 4 times a year, and they don't make intentional open wounds). well my most recent inspection happened today, what was my score you ask? 100 as usual.
Some more thoughts from "my guy:"
...health inspections are a matter of public record in every state that has one. before getting work by anyone it might be a good idea to go to the regional health dept and check out what (if any) codes the studio of your choice might be in violation of.
1-just because they are open doesn't mean they don't have violations. restaraunts stay open with b and c grades all the time. they just pay fines to stay open.
2-the health inspector rarely works past 5 pm. if a studio does most of their work in the evening, they may be doing it not only to get the drunk crowd/bar crowd, but to fly under the radar of health officials also.
3-if your tattooist will get you high (get high with you) before they work on you or during their shop hours, do you really think they have their stuff together enough not to create health issues? stoned could create cross contamination issues in a hurry. would you want any other medical professional to be high? think about it, you are worth more effort than the effort someone high can give you.
4-does your tattooist use completely disposable equipment? do they break the needles in front of you? do they still use one of those gross plastic or metal holders (there is a better disposable method used by artists that care) to hold the pigment they use on you? do they use metal tubes that get autoclaved (maybe not so well) or do they use completely disposable tubes that might cost more per use? your health and emotional welfare are worth all of those things and more. get educated. stop letting an industry of thieves steal from you.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 4:34:33 PM
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faroukfarouk
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miasma:
so do you also think that privacy is an issue for tattooing?
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ORIGINAL: miasma
There should never be any situation, tattoos, haircuts, doctors, any time Even among highly qualified/licensed/experienced tattoo givers/receivers, there are varying opinions as to aftercare. And how they should be done. For example, those open-air parlors, like on Miami Ink = big no.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 4:39:07 PM
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miasma
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Privacy is an issue for individuals. Cleanliness and proper procedure is an issue for tattooing.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 4:55:47 PM
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faroukfarouk
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okay, yes, I see the distinction.
I guess you are experienced in tattoo safety issues.
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Privacy is an issue for individuals. Cleanliness and proper procedure is an issue for tattooing.
< Message edited by faroukfarouk -- 7/7/2008 5:08:47 PM >
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Trust the Bible.
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Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 5:05:10 PM
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okay, yes, I see the distinction.
I think some tattooists like to have their client visible for advertising purposes, but some people would prefer to get inked in private.
Does it bother you when you get inked if others in the store can see you?
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ORIGINAL: miasma
Privacy is an issue for individuals. Cleanliness and proper procedure is an issue for tattooing.
Farouk - this is off topic for this thread. This thread is about tattoo safety. Please stick to subject.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 5:11:05 PM
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faroukfarouk
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thedivabrat:
So do ppl now ask you about tattoo safety issues when they see your tattoo?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience.
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Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 5:50:35 PM
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thedivabrat
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Not really they usually just want to know if it hurt. And no it didn't. It was uncomfortable but not really painful.
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thedivabrat:
So do ppl now ask you about tattoo safety issues when they see your tattoo?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 6:00:12 PM
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faroukfarouk
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thedivabrat:
Do you recommend to those who ask you about your tattoo the parlor that did it for you? like, you are satisfied with the health and safety aspect with them?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Not really they usually just want to know if it hurt. And no it didn't. It was uncomfortable but not really painful.
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ORIGINAL: faroukfarouk
thedivabrat:
So do ppl now ask you about tattoo safety issues when they see your tattoo?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience.
_____________________________
Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 6:48:10 PM
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thedivabrat
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I would recommend the artist--I have some hesitation about some of the others that work there. But the guy that did mine has his own room and does his own sterilizing and stuff. He also travels all over the world tattooing and studying with other artists. The week after I had mine done he went to Antwerp for a week and Italy for 2 weeks and then to Ireland for a week.
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thedivabrat:
Do you recommend to those who ask you about your tattoo the parlor that did it for you? like, you are satisfied with the health and safety aspect with them?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Not really they usually just want to know if it hurt. And no it didn't. It was uncomfortable but not really painful.
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ORIGINAL: faroukfarouk
thedivabrat:
So do ppl now ask you about tattoo safety issues when they see your tattoo?
Take care.
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ORIGINAL: thedivabrat
Before I got my tattoo I was sort of a tattoo stalker. I would stop people and ask where they got there ink done and about the experience.
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/7/2008 7:32:16 PM
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faroukfarouk
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thedivabrat:
Ah I see, thnx, so really the emphasis is on the tattooist rather than the parlor, in terms of who you would recommend to others? That's an important point, I guess.
The irony is, I guess, that it's parlors that are inspected. But then that's important as well, right.
Take care.
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I would recommend the artist--I have some hesitation about some of the others that work there. But the guy that did mine has his own room and does his own sterilizing and stuff. He also travels all over the world tattooing and studying with other artists. The week after I had mine done he went to Antwerp for a week and Italy for 2 weeks and then to Ireland for a week.
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ORIGINAL: faroukfarouk
_____________________________
Trust the Bible.
Trust the Lord.
Don't trust the appearance of things.
(I'm a guy. Some tattoo designs look nice, though...but I haven't worn my earrings lately. So, think the lady in the avatar is my sister?)
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RE: TATTOO SAFETY- MUST KNOW FOR ANYONE CONSIIDERING - 7/8/2008 12:44:01 AM
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spdrgrl.603
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i am working on being more picky than normal (which is very picky). the artist i'm looking at isn't in the shop til wed so i'll call him to set up a time to watch him ink. he upped the fee for an appointment to $60 so i'm really checking him out. basically i found today that i'm going to tell him that i want to watch him so i can see what i'm getting myself into and know what to expect. maybe close it by saying that he would want me to get cold feet and chicken out before he starts? he's has his own myspace page with pics so you can see his work area and some of his work. he tattoos the japanese style i'm looking for and just as important he can get blacks black. the water jesus is pulling peter from is supposed to be abyss like but this tattoo (from the bad artist) is no more than 5 months old and has holidays (from not holding the needle right) and fading fast.
please check out the artist i'm looking at to see if he looks good (safe wise too) your eyes may see something i might miss (or hopefully nothing)....
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=281571651
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