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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/9/2008 12:23:21 AM
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phyl2
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Here's an easy solution --- buy one of each!!! 
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 10:36:51 AM
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As for a study Bible I like the Thompson chain reference. Did you know that Lucifer is missing in the NIV? Check out Isaiah 14:12 in the NIV and compare it with the King James.
Also check out Acts 8:37 The NIV is missing quite a few other verses also. If this is alarming to you then you should consider studying the two streams of Bible history.
I always recommend the KJV.
Check out this web site http://av1611.com/kjbp/
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 11:08:07 AM
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I use the Life Application Bible in the NLT for personal reading.
I use the NASB crossreferenced with the KJV for in-depth Bible study.
The Life Application Bible is available in all translations. It is the best bible out there, contains the most maps, detailed-easy-to read "commentary" that allows you to understand why the passage is saying what it does based on the culture of the day, AND is almost verse to verse how you can apply it to your daily life. And you can pick whatever translation you want -- NIV, NLT, KJV, whatever.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 11:11:21 AM
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I use the KJV, the NASB and the Scofield Study Bible. I fine the KJV is very good for learning, the others are excellent for study, and in-depth understanding. I also keep a concordance handy. When i intuitively or instinctively reach for a Bible it is the KJV. It is much more of a comfort for some reasons i can't explain.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 11:42:11 AM
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We keep a couple of NIV's around, along with an NASB and a Young's Literal. Honestly, for most studies though, we do nearly everything online.
Reasons:
1) It's free.
2) I have access to a multitude of translations including German one's.
3) I can compare versions more easily, search more easily, and cross reference more easily.
4) It's free.
Plus, just in case I forgot to mention it, it's free!
I prefer newer translations to the older one's like the KJV for the simple reason that the newer versions have access to a greater number of manuscripts and a better body of research surrounding some meanings of some ancient words than what the KJV translators had access to. While some meanings may be slightly altered, it would seem the alterations would be in favor of a more accurate rendition of the original author's intent.
Shameless marketing plug: if you can afford it, Logos Bible Software is an amazing set of tools. Not cheap ($800 or so) but a truly awesome set of resources that even a rank amatuer like me can get some serious benefit from.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 11:43:28 AM
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GroupW
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I use the KJV, the NASB and the Scofield Study Bible. I fine the KJV is very good for learning, the others are excellent for study, and in-depth understanding. I also keep a concordance handy. When i intuitively or instinctively reach for a Bible it is the KJV. It is much more of a comfort for some reasons i can't explain.
For many of us that grew up on it, there's no explanation necessary. I don't like it for in depth study, but there is a comfort factor when I read it.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 1:01:11 PM
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phyl2
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Did you know that Lucifer is missing in the NIV? Check out Isaiah 14:12 in the NIV and compare it with the King James.
Also check out Acts 8:37 The NIV is missing quite a few other verses also. If this is alarming to you then you should consider studying the two streams of Bible history.
I always recommend the KJV.
This is a KJVO claim, and there is a one stop thread for the KJVO discussion.
The NIV accurately translates the Hebrew in Isaiah 14:12. The Hebrew word is light bearer and is a reference to the morning star or day star. Lucifer is Latin for light bearer. Did you know that no one referred to Satan as Lucifer before the 4th century? Early Christians, before the 5th century actually named their children Lucifer. If Satan was known back then as Lucifer, they wouldn't have done so. Calling Satan Lucifer is a later interpretation. If you notice, in the Bible, Jesus never calls him Lucifer, He calls him Satan. So, there is nothing wrong with the NIV translation. It is an accurate and good translation.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 1:10:48 PM
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For those who've blissfully avoided the topic, KJVO in Phyl2's response is "King James Version Only"
Phyl2-
I've followed a couple of responses of yours and found them to be very educated and insightful. I'm guessing M.Div or the equivalent, possibly teacher or pastor. Am I close?
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/10/2008 3:54:31 PM
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Right now, I'm a fan of the ESV. If I had easier access to a NET, I might read that more often.
...And every so often I like to dabble in my GNT, but I'm still much too unfamiliar with the language to read it fluently.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/11/2008 12:06:21 AM
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Phyl2-
I've followed a couple of responses of yours and found them to be very educated and insightful. I'm guessing M.Div or the equivalent, possibly teacher or pastor. Am I close?
My dad, grandfather, uncle, brother-in-law and a 2nd cousin are or were all pastors. Does that count? 
No, I'm not a teacher or pastor, or even an M.Div. I'm just a person who loves the word of God and has been interested in studying it since I was a kid. I've also been interested in the various English translations and have a number of them.
Also, I've had a distrust for the television/radio preachers, because of the warnings in the Bible about false teaching. So, for some years, I studied the Bible without using commentaries or books, and now I use them, but, I check out what they say.
When I first joined Crosswalk years ago, someone chastised me for trying to confuse someone by using a perverted Bible to quote scripture from. (I was using the NIV - a translation that I believe God guided me to get and use.) I had never heard of such a claim, so I decided to check it out. I studied everything I could get my hands on. I checked and rechecked everything I could, and found that there is waaaay too much misinformation on the KJVO side. One example is that "two streams of Bibles" theory. Most people just read the lists and think, oh, I should avoid these Bibles on the bad list. Well, I was able to check some of them out and found that some of the Bibles on the "good stream" have some of those same verses "missing" just like the NIV!
Oops! I may be tiptoeing across that line into discussing KJVO and I don't want to do that here. If anyone has any questions about the topic, if they will post on that thread, I'll probably see it and respond with what I have found.
I have had a few college level Bible classes and I have taken both Greek and Hebrew, although I really need to refresh what I've learned. It is my hope to some day be able to read the Bible in the original languages without having to stop too many times to look up words.
I have a Hebrew Old Testament, the UBS Greek and the NA Greek NT's plus interlinear New Testaments of both the TR Greek and the UBS/NA Greek.
I hope the next Bible I get is one I saw in the store, but I don't remember what it was called, so I haven't been able to successfully search for it, but if I remember correctly it was either a parallel or interlinear Bible using the Majority text of the New Testament. It's not the one by Jay Green.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/11/2008 10:50:04 AM
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I use the King James only and one of the main reasons is because that is the version I used as a kid when I memorized scripture. Today I hear so many people say a verse that sounds nothing like the one I learned from KJV.
I prefer memorizing as much scripture as possible so I don't have to have a Bible on hand to open, but when I do, the KJV is always the one I reach for.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/11/2008 10:55:48 AM
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GroupW
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Phyl2-
I've followed a couple of responses of yours and found them to be very educated and insightful. I'm guessing M.Div or the equivalent, possibly teacher or pastor. Am I close?
My dad, grandfather, uncle, brother-in-law and a 2nd cousin are or were all pastors. Does that count?
Nicely done then! I'm impressed by the way you've really put your back into your studies.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/11/2008 11:37:08 AM
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well....i DID ask "Which Bible do you currently use, or prefer? And which features do you most appreciate? " I didn't want simple "i read this version" answers." i WANT to know WHY you favor one (or more) over another!!!
I like and use the NIV. I like that it is readable yet, still very literal. I think the NIV strikes a very good balance between word-for-word and thought-for-thought translation. I also like the New King James for similar reasons. I got the Nelson Study Bible, which is a study Bible with the NKJV. It has lots of very good study notes and other helps.
I don't like the NLT as well. I think it is a good translation, but, it is a little more "free", in other words, not as literal as the NIV. And, sometimes that bothers me.
Whatever you do, something you might want to consider is to NOT get the Quest Study Bible. Your mom has it, and I bet she'd let you borrow it when you are studying, long enough to consult the study notes in it. The NIV Study Bible has very good study notes in it. I have it, and mine is falling apart. I'd like to get the NIV Archeological Study Bible, so that I could read the notes in that one. I find archeology interesting, especially when it concerns Bible times and lands.
I like to collect translations and I have probably at least 30 of them. I also like to get different study Bibles when I can, especially if they are in different translations, so that I not only have different translations to consult; I can also consult the different study notes perspectives. In each case, I don't just accept what the study notes teach, I balance it all with scripture. And, if a question arises about how a specific translation handles any verse, I check it out with my Greek and Hebrew resources. Even if you have no knowledge of the original languages, or the resources, you can do somewhat the same using online Bible study tools, such as the one at Crosswalk or Studylight.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/12/2008 9:24:21 PM
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I prefer the NASB. But also have a KJV. And a Quest NIV Study Bible, which I love when I'm doing indepth searches. Mostly I use e-sword, which I have downloaded on my computer with several translations of the Bible, including several different commentaries. That's my favorite way to do Bible research.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/13/2008 11:53:44 AM
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I like the KJV as well. My wife uses it as well.
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In my opinion, there's nothing like the good old KJV. I feel that it's the closest translation to the original text. Other translations tend to change key words which can then change the complete meaning of a text. And other translations delete verses in their entirety.
I do admit that the KJV can be a challenging read for most of us. I try to rely on the Holy Spirit to guide me, but admittedly, I sometimes just can't seem to wrap my brain around some of the verses (usually when I'm tired) and I will turn to the NLT for assistance.
Hence, I like the 'People's Parallel Bible' which has the KJV and the NLT side-by-side. I got mine from Christian Book Distributors: www.cbd.com That site usually allows you an inside look at a few of the pages of any book you are considering ordering, including Bibles.
Good luck!
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/13/2008 4:45:59 PM
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anniec57:
I do generally identify with the Scofield scheme for prophecy and interpretation. That being said, I use the KJV without notes.
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I use the KJV, the NASB and the Scofield Study Bible. I fine the KJV is very good for learning, the others are excellent for study, and in-depth understanding. I also keep a concordance handy. When i intuitively or instinctively reach for a Bible it is the KJV. It is much more of a comfort for some reasons i can't explain.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/13/2008 11:05:00 PM
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I really, really like the NIV Archaeological Study Bible. This is from a booklet I have on it:
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TO ENGAGE THE BIBLE MORE, YOU NEED TO ENTER THE WORLD FROM WHICH IT CAME.
From the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelation, the ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY BIBLE is filled with study material of people, places and objects that will open your eyes to the archaeological, historical and cultural contexts of the stories you read and the people you meet in Scripture. From interesting facts regarding kings and empires to photographs of site excavations to weapons of war to ancient jewelry and children's toys, the archaeological record surrounding God's Word will help to energize, contextualize and inform your personal study.
Once you see the Bible through the light of history, you'll never look at Scripture the same way again.
These are some of its features:
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**Over 500 insightful and accessible articles, many including full-color photographs, covering the following five general categories: Archaeological Sites; Cultural and Historical Notes; Ancient People, Lands and Rulers; The Reliability of the Bible; and Ancient Texts and Artifacts.
**Over 8,000 bottom-of-the-page study notes geared to archaeological, cultural and historical themes and frequently cross-referenced to relevant articles.
**Detailed book introductions, including helpful, at-a-glance timelines and outlines.
**Charts and graphs on pertinent topics.
** Periodic citations (quotations) from the ancients, each tied to a particular article.
**Full-color interior throughout.
**Sixteen pages of full-color maps, along with an index for ease in location of the many place-names referenced in the articles and notes.
**Indexes to articles, charts, photographs and citations.
**Subject guide.
**Concordance.
**A glossary, cross-referenced to pertinent, bolded words within the articles.
I love and use every feature in this Bible. I love the full color pictures of places in the Bible, I love the study notes, the articles, the concordance, the indexes, the charts and graphs, etc., etc.
I have both a hard cover edition and a leather one.
I have looked at lots of study Bibles over the years, but this is only the second one I have ever bought. Wouldn't trade it for anything! 
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/14/2008 3:19:45 PM
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I'm sure the notes can be helpful, often.
I also think that ppl who use Study Bibles can usefully remember the distinction between what are notes and what is actual Scripture.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 9:37:41 AM
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My primary study Bible at the moment is The Reformation Study Bible in ESV. When I first opened it, it was as though I had never looked at a Bible before. So fresh, new, exciting... inspiring. There are alot of great text notes in it.
I will probably get the ESV Study Bible when it comes out in October.
Is that the one from Concordia?
You could also go to www.biblegateway.com to try out the different ones. Take your favorite verses and see how the different translations treat them.
My study Bible right now is the NKJV Study Bible but it's in Kuwait now. I didn't think I wanted to pack it but now I'm wishing I had. I miss having the notes to help me out. LOL But I already have my eyes on another study Bible (the one from Concordia) that I'll have to treat myself to one of these days.
I have a couple of NASB, NIV, NRSV (back in the States), and KJV. They all have their strong points.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 2:05:02 PM
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ThursdaysChild:
The NKJV is fairly similar to the KJV.
In places it has been changed a fair bit.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 2:18:20 PM
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I'm sure the notes can be helpful, often.
I also think that ppl who use Study Bibles can usefully remember the distinction between what are notes and what is actual Scripture.
Interestingly, though, 99.9% of the people I know that use a Scofield Bible just happen to have come to his eschatological positions. Just like most people that had no position before reading LaHaye or Hal Lindsay, now share their POV. Coincidence or influence?
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