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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 2:20:36 PM
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JimboFletch
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The NKJV is fairly similar to the KJV.
In places it has been changed a fair bit.
Same is true of the Scofield KJV Bible (which I have and once used a lot), probably for the same reasons, accuracy.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 2:30:04 PM
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Maybe the premillennial viewpoint is convincing and Biblical?
I do agree generally with Scofield, anyway.
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I'm sure the notes can be helpful, often.
I also think that ppl who use Study Bibles can usefully remember the distinction between what are notes and what is actual Scripture.
Interestingly, though, 99.9% of the people I know that use a Scofield Bible just happen to have come to his eschatological positions. Just like most people that had no position before reading LaHaye or Hal Lindsay, now share their POV. Coincidence or influence?
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 3:17:49 PM
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We don't only believe something if it's in the notes of a Study Bible, whether Scofield, or whatever. We believe something when we are convinced that it's what the Word teaches.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 3:32:09 PM
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JimboFletch
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We don't only believe something if it's in the notes of a Study Bible, whether Scofield, or whatever. We believe something when we are convinced that it's what the Word teaches.
I agree. It's just that I happened to agree with the notes in my old Scofield when it was my primary study Bible. It was a real time saver too the way it linked any apparently supporting scripture that contained even further notes and more supporting scripture.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 3:41:02 PM
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I guess the bottom line is whether it is useful in Bible study to link up themes, from references etc in the margin.
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We don't only believe something if it's in the notes of a Study Bible, whether Scofield, or whatever. We believe something when we are convinced that it's what the Word teaches.
I agree. It's just that I happened to agree with the notes in my old Scofield when it was my primary study Bible. It was a real time saver too the way it linked any apparently supporting scripture that contained even further notes and more supporting scripture.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 3:43:55 PM
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JimboFletch
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I guess the bottom line is whether it is useful in Bible study to link up themes, from references etc in the margin.
True, especially when the author has a developed theology to guide his choices.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/15/2008 3:46:11 PM
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I guess as we study the Word, certain themes fall into place in our mind, we trust, as the Spirit 'guides (us) into all truth'.
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I guess the bottom line is whether it is useful in Bible study to link up themes, from references etc in the margin.
True, especially when the author has a developed theology to guide his choices.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/16/2008 7:47:47 AM
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I guess as we study the Word, certain themes fall into place in our mind, we trust, as the Spirit 'guides (us) into all truth'.
I agree and that is possible as we lean on Him and not a guided tour provided by another human, even as well-intentioned as Mr. Scofield.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/16/2008 7:08:03 PM
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C I Scofield was fallible.
But I do find some of his guidelines in Bible stufy helpful.
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I guess as we study the Word, certain themes fall into place in our mind, we trust, as the Spirit 'guides (us) into all truth'.
I agree and that is possible as we lean on Him and not a guided tour provided by another human, even as well-intentioned as Mr. Scofield.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/25/2008 9:28:12 AM
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Which Bible Do You Use?
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/30/2008 10:42:15 PM
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i really appreciate all of your input. you've really given me a lot of things to consider. i'm starting to think i'm gonna have to buy a dozen Bibles now! (lol)
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/30/2008 11:13:06 PM
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My fav. is the CEV. No notes, or extras, or anything.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/30/2008 11:24:38 PM
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The Revised Standard, but find myself looking through the NIV and The Message once in a while. Chuck Swindoll of Insight for Living said he usually reads through it. and he said a bible isn't a bible unless it has maps. My NIV has maps.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 7/31/2008 10:42:49 AM
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NASB (New American Standard Bible)
Used to use, and still do sometimes, the NIV.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/1/2008 2:57:10 AM
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Hi every one
i saw you people have great knowledge about bible. can you suggest me a good online bible dictionary, i need some of these type of dictionaries on urgent basis and i am searching for some translation tools as well.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/1/2008 1:22:43 PM
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which originally started out as a project at Dallas Theological Seminary.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. The first link states that Arthur Farstad started the translation which was taken over by HCSB. But, all the info I've read was that the translation that Arthur Farstad was involved in eventually became the NKJV, not the HCSB.
As far as I know, the HCSB is the baby of the Southern Baptist Convention.
I doubt that the Dallas Theological Seminary was involved in it. They were more invovled in the NET Bible which can be found at NET Bible
The NET Bible, btw, is a very interesting translation and study source. They have all kinds of notes dealing with textual issues, and translational issues.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/1/2008 3:26:21 PM
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which originally started out as a project at Dallas Theological Seminary.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. The first link states that Arthur Farstad started the translation which was taken over by HCSB. But, all the info I've read was that the translation that Arthur Farstad was involved in eventually became the NKJV, not the HCSB.
As far as I know, the HCSB is the baby of the Southern Baptist Convention.
I doubt that the Dallas Theological Seminary was involved in it. They were more invovled in the NET Bible which can be found at NET Bible
The NET Bible, btw, is a very interesting translation and study source. They have all kinds of notes dealing with textual issues, and translational issues.
Actually, that link is QUITE accurate, since I wrote the content found therein :-)
It is true that Farstad was the editor of the NKJV which was based in the New Testament on the Textus Receptus (TR) like the KJV. However, Farstad was not a TR guy but rather an advocate of the Majority Text (MT; there's a difference between the TR and the MT, although some use the terms interchangeably). Farstad had edited a Greek New Testament based on the MT with fellow DTS prof Zane Hodges. Farstad initially wanted to base the NKJV on the MT, but the powers that be at Thomas Nelson wanted the NKJV to be based on the exact same text as the KJV. A compromise was reached in which the footnotes for the text of the NKJV demonstrate the differences between the MT, TR, and UBS/NA text. This footnote system, in my opinion, is the most valuable aspect of the NKJV.
Following the completion of the NKJV, Farstad started on a new project to create a median translation (median meaning literal where possible and dynamic where necessary like the NIV) based on the MT. The name of this translation changed over the years, but was for a time called Logos21. Farstad and others worked on this translation for over 20 years when Broadman-Holman/Lifeway (publishers for the SBC) stepped in and took over sponsorship of Farstad's work. The SBC had been shopping around for a translation for a while so that they would not have to pay royalties to Zondervan/IBS for use of the NIV. They tried to purchase the NASB outright, but the Lockman Foundation wouldn't sell, so they began shopping around for a translation in progress.
Shortly after the SBC sponsorship of Art Farstad's translation was official, Farstad died. Ed Blum became the editor and the textual basis for the NT was promptly switched to the UBS/NA text. The rest is history.
The HCSB is often mistakenly thought of as a "Southern Baptist" translation, but it really is not except in terms of sponsorship and copyright. In fact, of the 100 or so translators for the HCSB, only about half were Baptist. I personally find the HCSB to be one of the most technically accurate translations on the market. They are one of the few to get the essence of John 3:16 correct.
A revision to the HCSB is projected to be released in 2009.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/2/2008 3:58:30 PM
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Hi every one
i saw you people have great knowledge about bible. can you suggest me a good online bible dictionary, i need some of these type of dictionaries on urgent basis and i am searching for some translation tools as well.
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Try the free Bible Explorer 4, ( http://www.bible-explorer.com/ ), it is made by the same people that make WORDsearch 7. The Bible Explorer software includes free the following dictionaries:
Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature
Easton's Illustrated Bible Dictionary
Hitchcock's Dictionary of Bible Names
King James Version Dictionary
Smith's Bible Dictionary
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Their concept on providing free Bible Software is, they know that most will be so impressed with the quality of the program in the free version; that they will want to add-on to their library of books, and/or upgrade to WORDsearch 7 with more features. I have owned at least five other Bible Software programs when I bought the Deluxe Version of Bible Explorer 3 and was WOWED at how much better it was than Quick Verse, and eagerly upgraded to WORDsearch 7 when they ran a sale, and I continue to watch their sales and add to the books in my library ever once in awhile. NOW, with their new free Bible Explorer 4 easily available even on C/Net:
http://www.download.com/Bible-Explorer/3000-2135_4-10564112.html ,
anyone can check it out and then decide if they want to upgrade or add to their book collection. It is by far the easiest to use Bible software that I have ever used, and the video Tutorials under the Help section make it super easy to learn how to use it.
Also in the Help Section you find "Shop for Add-on Books". When you click on that tab it takes you to the WORDsearch Catalog Home page, and guess what is the first catagory of books on the top of the list; "Free Books!" I am still amazed at how many free books are available. This is a Christian Company more concerned about getting the Word Out to the people, than showing huge profits in the bank account. A Christian Company run right! How refreshing in this Day and Age!
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/3/2008 1:48:15 PM
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which originally started out as a project at Dallas Theological Seminary.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. The first link states that Arthur Farstad started the translation which was taken over by HCSB. But, all the info I've read was that the translation that Arthur Farstad was involved in eventually became the NKJV, not the HCSB.
As far as I know, the HCSB is the baby of the Southern Baptist Convention.
I doubt that the Dallas Theological Seminary was involved in it. They were more invovled in the NET Bible which can be found at NET Bible
The NET Bible, btw, is a very interesting translation and study source. They have all kinds of notes dealing with textual issues, and translational issues.
Actually, that link is QUITE accurate, since I wrote the content found therein :-)
It is true that Farstad was the editor of the NKJV which was based in the New Testament on the Textus Receptus (TR) like the KJV. However, Farstad was not a TR guy but rather an advocate of the Majority Text (MT; there's a difference between the TR and the MT, although some use the terms interchangeably). Farstad had edited a Greek New Testament based on the MT with fellow DTS prof Zane Hodges. Farstad initially wanted to base the NKJV on the MT, but the powers that be at Thomas Nelson wanted the NKJV to be based on the exact same text as the KJV. A compromise was reached in which the footnotes for the text of the NKJV demonstrate the differences between the MT, TR, and UBS/NA text. This footnote system, in my opinion, is the most valuable aspect of the NKJV.
Following the completion of the NKJV, Farstad started on a new project to create a median translation (median meaning literal where possible and dynamic where necessary like the NIV) based on the MT. The name of this translation changed over the years, but was for a time called Logos21. Farstad and others worked on this translation for over 20 years when Broadman-Holman/Lifeway (publishers for the SBC) stepped in and took over sponsorship of Farstad's work. The SBC had been shopping around for a translation for a while so that they would not have to pay royalties to Zondervan/IBS for use of the NIV. They tried to purchase the NASB outright, but the Lockman Foundation wouldn't sell, so they began shopping around for a translation in progress.
Shortly after the SBC sponsorship of Art Farstad's translation was official, Farstad died. Ed Blum became the editor and the textual basis for the NT was promptly switched to the UBS/NA text. The rest is history.
The HCSB is often mistakenly thought of as a "Southern Baptist" translation, but it really is not except in terms of sponsorship and copyright. In fact, of the 100 or so translators for the HCSB, only about half were Baptist. I personally find the HCSB to be one of the most technically accurate translations on the market. They are one of the few to get the essence of John 3:16 correct.
A revision to the HCSB is projected to be released in 2009.
welcome......how fun that your first post is in my thread! and what a gift from God!! i read your blog on the HCSB. i must say...i am VERY interested. will be going to our Christian bookstore tomorrow and check it out IRL.
thanks for sharing your knowledge. it may have been just the bday present i was looking for! 
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/4/2008 4:18:17 AM
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which originally started out as a project at Dallas Theological Seminary.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. The first link states that Arthur Farstad started the translation which was taken over by HCSB. But, all the info I've read was that the translation that Arthur Farstad was involved in eventually became the NKJV, not the HCSB.
As far as I know, the HCSB is the baby of the Southern Baptist Convention.
I doubt that the Dallas Theological Seminary was involved in it. They were more invovled in the NET Bible which can be found at NET Bible
The NET Bible, btw, is a very interesting translation and study source. They have all kinds of notes dealing with textual issues, and translational issues.
U&U
The following should help remove your doubts. It is the most complete list of those involved in Translating, Editing, and Compiling the "Holman Christian Standard Bible". Granted the Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention do rightfully get credit for a large part of the funding of the finished project, but Art Farstad of Dallas Theological Seminary is credited with being the HCSB project Founder and First General Editor.
The Holman CSB editor is Dr. Ed Blum, a professor of historical theology at Dallas Theological Seminary and former minister. Blum said new translations are essential because of the fluid nature of language.
http://www.churchcentral.com/nw/s/id/18920/template/Article.html
A GREAT MANY NON-SOUTHERN BAPTISTS WERE INVOLVED IN TRANSLATING, EDITING, AND COMPILING THE "HOLMAN'S CHRISTIAN STANDARD BIBLE:
Holman Christian Standard Bible
New Testament. Edwin Blum, ed., Holman Christian Standard Bible: Experiencing the Word New Testament. (Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 2001).
Bible. Edwin Blum, ed., Holy Bible: Holman Christian Standard Bible. (Nashville: Holman Bible Publishers, 2004).
This version of the Bible was planned and sponsored by the Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention (renamed "LifeWay Christian Resources" of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998). The publisher, Broadman & Holman, is that agency's publishing house. The Holman Christian Standard Bible (CSB) was conceived as a replacement for the NIV, which the SBC Sunday School Board had been using in its curriculum materials under a license agreement. The NIV became controversial after the International Bible Society acknowledged in 1997 that it was revising the NIV with "politically correct" gender-neutral language, and so in 1998 the Sunday School Board entered into an agreement with Arthur Farstad (formerly the editor of the New King James Version) for him to oversee the production of a new version that would be under its own control. Soon afterward, Farstad died, and Edwin Blum was appointed general editor in his place.
The version was produced by a large team of translators and stylists, and a smaller editorial team meeting in Dallas, Texas. About a third of the team members are Southern Baptist. Other team members are Plymouth Brethren, Presbyterians (PCA), Congregationalists, Church of England, Church of God, Evangelical Free Church, Methodists, Evangelical Mennonites and Episcopalians.
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Editors and Translators
The Editorial Team
Edwin A. Blum, General Editor/Translator; Th.M., Th.D., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., University of Basel; additional study, Rice University
Trent Butler, Editor/translator; B.D., The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Vanderbilt University, Joshua
E. Ray Clendenen, Associate general editor/translator; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; M.A., Dropsie University; Ph.D., University of Texas at Arlington, Haggai, Malachi
Garry Fulton, Stylist; B.A., M.A., The Criswell College
Sheila E. Moss, Stylist; B.A., Trevecca Nazarene University; M.Ed., Peabody College of Vanderbilt University
David R. Shepherd, Executive Editor/Stylist; Publisher, Broadman & Holman; B.A., David Lipscomb University
David K. Stabnow, Old Testament editor/translator; M.Div., Bethel Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Westminster Theological Seminary
Lloyd W. Mullens, Managing Editor; B.A. Belmont University; additional studies, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary; Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Other Editors
Todd Beall, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Capital Bible Seminary; Th.M., Capital Bible Seminary; Ph.D., The Catholic University of America, Isaiah 36 - 66
Robert Bergen, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Hannibal-LaGrange College; M.Div., Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1 Samuel
Frank Carmical, Editor/Stylist; Founder & Evangelist for Harvester Ministries; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary
James Davis, Editor/Translator; M.Div., Th.M., Capital Bible Seminary; Ph.D. candidate, Dallas Theological Seminary
Barrett Duke, Vice-President of Research, Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission; M.A., Denver Seminary; Ph.D., Iliff School of Theology, Ezra
Joe A. Friberg, Old Testament editor/translator; B.S., The University of Texas at Austin; M.A., The University of Texas at Arlington; M.A. Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Duane Garrett, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; M.Div., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., Baylor University, Proverbs, Song of Solomon, Hosea
Richard Hess, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Denver Seminary; M.Div., Th.M., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Exodus 22 - 40
Harold R. Holmyard, Old Testament editor/translator; Th.M., Grace Theological Seminary; Th.D., Dallas Theological Seminary
David M. Howard, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament, Bethel Seminary; M.A., Wheaton College; Ph.D., University of Michigan
Tremper Longman III, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament, Westmont College; Ph.D., Yale University
Eugene H. Merrill, Old Testament editor/translator; Distinguished Professor of Old Testament studies, Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D. Columbia University; Ph.D. Bob Jones University
Calvin Miller, English Stylist; professor of Homiletics, Beeson Divinity School; M.Div., D.Min., Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Frances Mosher, English stylist/secretary; B.S., The University of North Texas; additional studies, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
John Perry, English Stylist; B.A. cum laude, Vanderbilt University; additional studies, University College, Oxford, England
James Price, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Temple Baptist Seminary (Chattanooga, Tennessee); M.Div., Los Angeles Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Dropsie University, 2 Chronicles
Mark Rooker, Old Testament editor/translator; Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; M.A., Ph.D., Brandeis University, Leviticus
Joe M. Sprinkle, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Toccoa Falls College; M.Div., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; M.Phil., Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Genesis 1 - 27
Kevin R. Warstler, Old Testament editor/translator; Th.M., Ph.D. candidate, Dallas Theological Seminary
R. Gregg Watson, Old testament editor; pastor, Brandon, Texas; M.Div., Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Marianne Wilson, English stylist/secretary; A. A., San Jacinto College; B.S., Southwestern College
Old Testament Translators
Martin Abegg, Director, Dead Sea Scrolls Institute & Associate Professor and Chair Religious Studies, Trinity Western University (Langley, British Columbia); M.Div., Northwest Baptist Seminary; M.Phil., Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Jeremiah 1 - 28
James Allman, Professor of Bible, Theology, & Biblical Languages, Crichton College; Th.M., Th.D., Dallas Theological Seminary, Psalms 52 - 101
Stephen J. Andrews, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Phil., Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Zephaniah
Richard Averbeck, Professor of Old Testament & Semitics, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; M.Div., M.A., Grace Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Dropsie College Numbers 18 - 36
Bryan Beyer, Dean of Students, Columbia International University; M.Div., Denver Conservative Baptist Seminary; Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Jeremiah 29 - 49
Roy Brown, Retired professor of physics; programmer for Accordance; Ph.D., Baylor University (Physics); Post Doctoral Studies, Technion Israel Institute (Haifa), Joshua
Hassell Bullock, Professor of Biblical Studies, Wheaton College; Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Ezekiel 1 - 25
Rick Byargeon, Pastor, Temple Baptist Church, Ruston, LA; M.Div., Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Ecclesiastes
Stephen Carlson, Lifeway Christian Resources; M.Div., Ph.D., Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary, Habakkuk
Rodney Cloud, Professor of Old Testament emeritus, David Lipscomb University; M.A., Harding Graduate School of Religion; M.A., Peabody College; Ph.D., Hebrew Union College
Dennis Cole, Professor of Biblical Archaeology, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Th.M., Western Conservative Baptist Seminary; Th.D., New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, Numbers 1 - 17
Jack Collins, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Covenant Theological Seminary; M.Div., Faith Evangelical Lutheran Seminary; Ph.D., University of Liverpool, Psalms 102 - 150
Iain Duguid, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Westminster Theological Seminary (Escondido, California); Th.M., Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia); Ph.D., Cambridge University, Ezekiel 26 - 48
Archie England, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, North Greenville College; M.Div., Ph.D., Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary, Nehemiah
Art Farstad, HCSB project founder and first general editor (deceased); Th.M., Th.D., Dallas Theological Seminary
Alan Groves, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Westminster Theological Seminary; Th.M., Westminster Theological Seminary; Ph.D. candidate, Free University of Amsterdam, Judges 1 - 21
Larry Helyer, Professor of Biblical Studies, Taylor University; M.Div., Western Conservative Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Fuller Theological Seminary, 2 Samuel
Paul House, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Trinity Episcopal School of Ministry; M.A., University of Missouri-Columbia; M.Div., Ph.D., The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Additional studies: Ecumenical Institute for Theological Research, Jerusalem; The Whitefield Institute, England; Oxford University, England, 2 Kings
Walt Kaiser, President & professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; M.A., Wheaton College; Ph.D., Brandeis University, Lamentations
Brian Kelly, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Canterbury College (Canterbury, England); M.Phil., Trinity College (Bristol); Ph.D., University of Bristol (England), 1 Chronicles
George Klein, Professor of Old Testament, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Dropsie College, Zechariah
Kirk Lowery, Associate Director, The Westminster Hebrew Institute, Westminster Theological Seminary; M.Div., Talbot Graduate School of Theology; M.A., Ph.D., UCLA, 1 Kings
Karen Maticich, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, International School of Theology; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Cambridge University, Ruth, Esther
Janice Meier, Editor, Adult Sunday School Ministry Department, Lifeway Christian Resources; M.Div., Th.D., New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, Psalms 1 - 51
Stephen Miller, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Ph.D., Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary, Daniel
Jeff Niehaus, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; M.Div., Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Harvard University, Job
Richard Patterson, Retired professor of Old Testament & Hebrew; M.Div., Northwest Baptist Seminary; Th.M., Talbot Theological Seminary; Ph.D., UCLA, Amos
Michael Rydelnik, Professor of Jewish Studies, Moody Bible Institute; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; D.Miss., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Joel, Obadiah
John Sailhamer, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Western Conservative Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., UCLA, Genesis 28 - 50
Philip Satterthwaite, Professor of Biblical studies, Biblical Graduate School of Theology (Singapore); Ph.D., Manchester University (England), Deuteronomy 1 - 34
Richard Schultz, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Wheaton College; M.Div., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; M.A., Ph.D., Yale University, Isaiah 1 - 35
Gary Smith, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Dropsie College, Micah
Doug Stuart, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Harvard University, Exodus 1 - 21
Paul Wright, Professor of Old Testament & Hebrew, Jerusalem University College; Ph.D., Hebrew Union College, Nahum
New Testament Translators
David Allen, Professor of Homiletics, Criswell College; M.Div., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., University of Texas at Arlington, Hebrews 11 - 13
Lawrence Burks, Pastor, Grand Avenue Baptist Church, Gainesville, Texas; M.A., Texas Christian University; M.Div., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; D.Min., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Colossians
Stephen Carlson, See under Old Testament for vita, Ephesians
Thomas Edgar, Professor of New Testament Literature & Exegesis, Capital Bible Seminary; Th M., Th.D., Dallas Theological Seminary, Romans 1 - 13
Art Farstad, See under Old Testament for vita
Zane Hodges, Retired professor of New Testament & Greek, Dallas Theological Seminary; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary, Luke, John, James
Peter Johnston, Professor at Nairobi Evangelical Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Canterbury University (England), Mark, Galatians, 1&2 Timothy, Philemon, 1&2 Peter
Richard Melick, Provost & professor of New Testament & Greek, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary (Mill Valley, California); M.Div., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, 2 Corinthians
Robert Wilkin, Founder & Executive Director of Grace Evangelical Society; Th.M., Ph.D., Dallas Theological Seminary, John
New Testament Reviewers
Clinton Arnold, Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Director of Th.M. Program, Talbot School of Theology; M.Div., Talbot School of Theology; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen, Ephesians, Colossians
Craig Blomberg, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Denver Seminary; M.A., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen, Mark
Steve Cox, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Erskin Theological Seminary; Ph.D., The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Jude
Ken Easley, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Revelation
Gene Green, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Wheaton College; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen, 2 Thessalonians
George Guthrie, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Union University; Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Hebrews
Brent Kinman, Pastor, Castle Rock, Colorado; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Cambridge University, 1 Corinthians
Andreas Kostenberger, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, John
Boyd Luter, Associate Provost for Academic Affairs, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Biblical Studies, Criswell College; Th.M., Ph.D., Dallas Theological Seminary, Galatians
Michael Martin, Associate academic dean and professor of New Testament interpretation, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Ph.D., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1 Thessalonians
Robert Mounce, Retired professor (Bethel college and Seminary), dean (Western Kentucky University), and college president emeritus (Whitworth College); B.D., Th.M., Fuller Theological Seminary; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen; D.D. Seattle Pacific University, Matthew
Stanley Porter, Research Professor in New Testament, School of Humanities and Cultural Studies, University of Surrey Roehampton, UK; M.A., Claremont Graduate School; M.A., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; Ph.D., University of Sheffield, Acts
Thomas R. Schreiner, Professor of New Testament Interpretation, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Th.M., Western Conservative Baptist Seminary; Ph.D., Fuller Theological Seminary, 1&2 Timothy, Titus
Robert H. Stein, Professor of New Testament Interpretation, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; B.D., Fuller Theological Seminary; S.T.M., Andover Newton Theological School; Ph.D., Princeton Theological Seminary; Additional studies: University of Tübingen
Chris Thomas, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Church of God School of Theology, Ph.D., University of Sheffield (England), 1, 2, 3 John
Alan Tomlinson, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary; Ph.D., The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 2 Corinthians
Curtis Vaughan, Professor emeritus, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; M.Div., Th.D. Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Romans
Paul Wolfe, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Criswell College; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen, 1&2 Peter
Robert Yarbrough, Professor of New Testament & Greek, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; M.A., Wheaton College; Ph.D., University of Aberdeen, James
http://www.bible-researcher.com/csb.html
NO, the Southern Baptists do not get to claim the HCSB is their exclusive "Baby".
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/4/2008 6:34:50 AM
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I use the New Living Translation. Its easier for me to understand. But I've found it good when doing an Bible reading to use more than one translation to really grasp what a verse is trying to say.
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RE: Which Bible Do You Use? - 8/4/2008 2:43:41 PM
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phyl2
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This version of the Bible was planned and sponsored by the Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention (renamed "LifeWay Christian Resources" of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998). The publisher, Broadman & Holman, is that agency's publishing house. The Holman Christian Standard Bible (CSB) was conceived as a replacement for the NIV, which the SBC Sunday School Board had been using in its curriculum materials under a license agreement. The NIV became controversial after the International Bible Society acknowledged in 1997 that it was revising the NIV with "politically correct" gender-neutral language, and so in 1998 the Sunday School Board entered into an agreement with Arthur Farstad (formerly the editor of the New King James Version) for him to oversee the production of a new version that would be under its own control. Soon afterward, Farstad died, and Edwin Blum was appointed general editor in his place.
The shows that it IS the baby of the Southern Baptist convention. Note, that not only was it their idea, but also according to your link, Broadman and Holman is the Southern Baptist publishing house.
They may have asked Dr. Farstad to work with them, and they may have started with the base that he had started with his goal of making a Majority Text translation, but they abandoned that text and used the UBS/NA text. (Although I'm not necessarily a Majority text supporter, I would have liked to see a Majority Text translation, and would have bought one. It's too bad Dr. Farstad did not get his dream accomplished.)
It doesn't matter that the majority of the translators were not Southern Baptists. It was still a Southern Baptist project and under Southern Baptist control. I have no problem with that and would use the HCSB if I had a copy, but the fact remains it is a Southern Baptist translation. It was created so that they could have control in it's creation.
Also, the fact that a number of the translators earned degrees at DTS, and a few are on staff there, does not mean that DTS itself was involved. It just shows that DTS is good in training its students.
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