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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/8/2008 7:09:24 PM
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earthless
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perhaps the answer is Suspense Writer
you have not received eternal life.
those who have called Believers and His temple, dont think it strange at all.
eternal life is [zoe] and no death interupts such a life - few find.
Perhaps Abba is ''sparing'' with His gift of Life.
How old is the oldest living person you personally know? What you're preaching is unbiblical and downright absurd - the death rate is one per person.
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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/8/2008 7:12:02 PM
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There are still a lot of questions either being purposely dodged by Spying and Lucy and or they cannot answer them.
I will lay them out again:
1) Who do you say Jesus is?
2) What church/denomination do you two attend?
3) What preachers/teachers do you lend an ear to?
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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/8/2008 7:20:00 PM
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earthless
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And a simple fourth question, if I so may....
Spying, you said the following, "I do believe that after HIS Resurrection, that Messiah Yahushua is HIMSELF the restored YAHWEH ELOHIM!"
Are you saying here that you do not believe Jesus was God before His resurrection? Yes or no. It's a simple question.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/8/2008 9:50:28 PM
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Can a Believer overcome physical death Now?
Yes. It's called "resurrection".
It'll happen to us all soon enough.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/8/2008 10:45:34 PM
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When I stepped into this thread, I swore I heard the X-Files theme song playing in the background.
I'm surprised the mods have allowed this occultic preaching to last this long.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/9/2008 8:00:01 AM
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The WOF crew can at least point to miraculous healings which God still performs and claim, incorrectly, that those who are still not healed lack enough faith. But these two cannot produce a single, verifiable person that meets their claim. And, I suspect, if we could see both of them face-to-face, we'd even see evidence that they themselves are slowly losing the battle of mortal flesh.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/9/2008 8:04:49 AM
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Considering one was born in 1946.. that time may soon be near enough. The death rate is one per person and they cannot produce a single.. not one.. not one.. single person that is 200 years old, let alone 2,000.
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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/9/2008 10:29:28 AM
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3) What preachers/teachers do you lend an ear to?
If you go to Spying's web site link in his post, then go to Lucy's posts in there, she seems to enjoy reading a guy called Undrai Fizer.
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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/9/2008 10:48:59 AM
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3) What preachers/teachers do you lend an ear to?
If you go to Spying's web site link in his post, then go to Lucy's posts in there, she seems to enjoy reading a guy called Undrai Fizer.
One of their themes is that to encounter opposition is a validation that one is right. The problem with that is that it only holds true when believers encounter opposition from the world. When one encounters opposition from across all creeds and traditions of the Christian faith, it actually indicates ERROR of the highest magnitude.
Or to put it like my grandmother used to, "When you find that everyone but you is crazy, then, perhaps, they aren't the ones actually crazy."
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RE: The Restored YAHWEH! - 7/9/2008 10:52:17 AM
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3) What preachers/teachers do you lend an ear to?
If you go to Spying's web site link in his post, then go to Lucy's posts in there, she seems to enjoy reading a guy called Undrai Fizer.
One of their themes is that to encounter opposition is a validation that one is right. The problem with that is that it only holds true when believers encounter opposition from the world. When one encounters opposition from across all creeds and traditions of the Christian faith, it actually indicates ERROR of the highest magnitude.
Or to put it like my grandmother used to, "When you find that everyone but you is crazy, then, perhaps, they aren't the ones actually crazy."
And it's the same standard lie that Mormons use.. and that Jehovah Witnesses use.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/9/2008 11:16:53 AM
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So you do not attend any church? No preachers or teachers you both listen to?
I also asked the simple question of who do you say Jesus is? From the website forum they linked to, it appears they are Yashuans. They use a modified edition of the KJV, replacing God, Jesus, Lord, etc with more hebraic sounding terms. If so, they believe the word "Jesus" to be an obscenity.
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RE: Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? - 7/9/2008 11:35:12 AM
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So you do not attend any church? No preachers or teachers you both listen to?
I also asked the simple question of who do you say Jesus is? From the website forum they linked to, it appears they are Yashuans. They use a modified edition of the KJV, replacing God, Jesus, Lord, etc with more hebraic sounding terms. If so, they believe the word "Jesus" to be an obscenity.
And the key question to ask is "who do you say Jesus is?"
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RE: The Defilement Of Physical Death! - 7/9/2008 12:09:07 PM
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Just a thought...
Do you age? If you do you are going to die. Have you stayed the same age since you believed? By age I refer to age not in years but in physical maturity. You will get old, your body will become weaker and weaker, you will have pain, you will die.
The thing I really cannot understand is why anyone would want to live forever in this body and in this world... that, I cannot understand. I look forward to death. To being free from this struggle of a life. Of being free from the daily dying, to the state of war between my flesh and my Spirit. I long for that day. With Paul I say this... for me to die is gain. I strive to get to the point where I can in clear consience say that for me to live is Christ. This life of repentance is, for me at least, a struggle. This life is hard for a Christian, why would anyone want to continue it on and on. Not me, give me physical death when my days are done, give me relief, give me Jesus.
Now, I will agree that Christ can and will keep you alive until He is ready for you to come home. Just ask Paul, he was left for dead after being stoned, he was flogged what... five times?
Do you also dismiss suffering in this life as Gods ordained method of teaching us obedience?
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RE: The Defilement Of Physical Death! - 7/9/2008 3:18:03 PM
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The thing I really cannot understand is why anyone would want to live forever in this body and in this world... that, I cannot understand. I look forward to death. To being free from this struggle of a life. Of being free from the daily dying, to the state of war between my flesh and my Spirit. I long for that day. With Paul I say this... for me to die is gain. I strive to get to the point where I can in clear consience say that for me to live is Christ. This life of repentance is, for me at least, a struggle. This life is hard for a Christian, why would anyone want to continue it on and on. Not me, give me physical death when my days are done, give me relief, give me Jesus.
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RE: Body, Soul, And Spirit! - 8/1/2008 9:08:42 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I am thinking that you all might appreciate a copy of this post posted elsewhere. It shows that occasionally I am still thinking of you! :)quote:
...JimboFletch did not like me bringing up the idea that souls could die as YAHWEH does directly state in Ezekiel 18:4 so JimboFletch basically called me dumber than dumb on page 2 of your thread. Jimbo felt that I did not properly understand the Hebrew concept of the soul...
You misunderstand. I do not have a low opinion of someone who is ignorant. I do, howsumever, have a definite attitude toward someone with incorrect notions that persist in error when shown they are so.
Sincerely,
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RE: Body, Soul, And Spirit! - 8/1/2008 9:15:13 AM
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Spying is now a few days closer to physical death. As we ALL are - the death rate is one per person.
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RE: Body, Soul, And Spirit! - 8/1/2008 9:19:25 AM
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Another lie that tramples on the blood of God the Son and exposes the underlying corruption in their error:
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Salvation consists therefore in teaching souls to repent of their sins and in teaching souls how to perform the commandments of YAHWEH. Such saved souls can then hold water. They can retain their spirit and continue to live. They have learned how to abide, to remain.
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RE: Body, Soul, And Spirit! - 8/1/2008 9:24:47 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I am thinking that you all might appreciate a copy of this post posted elsewhere. It shows that occasionally I am still thinking of you! :)
Could it be that you're just frustrated that you and Lucy-love could not sway a single person on this Christian forum to buy into your pernicious doctrine? I think it has rankled your pseudo-sunny disposition since your last visit.
Sincerely,
JF
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