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ORIGINAL: lightbeamrider

Abraham did intercede to God and so did Moses on behalf of Sodom and Gomorrah and God approved. As Christians we are to interced to God on behalf of the unsaved thru prayer and we are to represent Christ to unbelievers. We are Christ's men. We pray without ceasing because it is part of the program. We are required to. As humans we are bound by space and time and matter. God is not. Time and space was created for God's Creation which inhabits time and space. God is outside all there is in our dimension. Mark Twain wrote Huckelberry Finn. Mark Twain is not in the story as a character. Twain is the author. In the same mannor (and perhaps it is a weak anology) God is outside the narrative. God inhabits eternity where time and space as we know it does not exist. We must be careful to avoid putting God in His Creation. (time and space) Certainly God can intrude into His Creation and the accounts indicate this is indeed the case. The results, for us, are not always pleasant and seldom what we expect. Scripture indicates God repents, (changes His mind). God, however does not change. Many of these concepts did not make sense to me at first but came in time. I will go out on a limb here. In John 11:43 Jesus commands Lazarus to come forth and Lazarus is revived after being dead for 4 days. This was a physical miracle which points to a spiritual reality. It's not like Lazarus could say.."no thanks Jesus, i prefer to exercise my free option and remain here." "Oh great and awesome God, who can overcome death. Is anything impossible with You. Is puny human free will an obstacle to You. You who desires all men to be saved. Are U rendered helpless on account of free will? No U are not." You will note the intersessions of Abraham did not prevent the fate which befell Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham is commended for trying. If it were me i might have said "hold on let me get my things and Your Will be done!" "Let them burn!" Anyways, back to Lazerus, Jesus commanded Lazarus came forth. God draws us to Christ (Jn.6:44) and we are born again from a spiritual death to life, become new creatures and only know life. Ultimately we cannot be what we are not. IN John 6:37 Jesus says..."All that the Father gives to Me,will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not caste out."

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ORIGINAL: Bridgitt

Hebrew 12:2 - looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising shame, and hath sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.


Philippians 1:6 - being confident of this very thing, that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Jesus Christ.

If salvation and all the gifts we have been given to us by God would depend on our own self to keep them, then we would never make it and lose everything. A christian is sustained by God and He has promised never to leave us nor to forsake us. He is the author of our faith, however, it depends on us to abide in Him and make that faith grow.

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So what happens if we don't abide in Him, and make our faith grow? Do you think it is possible to lose faith?