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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/30/2008 10:34:19 PM   
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Very few. LOL. My dad had to learn how to sew buttons in the army though.

Anyway I don't know how to sew so I have to buy some grocery bags. However they have some nice ones at Target and Macys that are actually fashionable to carry around.
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/30/2008 10:49:40 PM   
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However they have some nice ones at Target and Macys that are actually fashionable to carry around.


And this would be the least of my worries. All that I need is room for my six pack of Stela.
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 12:08:53 AM   
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Stela.


Stela!!!!

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 1:34:46 AM   
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and sewed the handles

guys and sewing don't mix

Sh! Don't tell my son! He thinks that he is invincible AND that he can do anything he sets his mind to, and that includes the leather seat on one of his motorcycles.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 5:57:38 AM   
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and sewed the handles


guys and sewing don't mix

I had a nurse who was very good at sewing and did all the sewing repair jobs in his family...

I guess it comes from sewing so many people up

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 7:37:29 AM   
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jazzact13
For the government to institute such a thing is going too far. It is simply another example of government intrusion.

/agree its another tax plain and simple.
And such taxes effect the poorest more than anyone.

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Covaan_Meshuga
I know some will hate me for this, but I think it is a great idea and that this should be instated everywhere, in order to cut back on garbage.

The only thing it will cut back on is shopping in King county.
(ha-ha NOT. They'll just complain when they do notice and
continue as always)

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Perhaps there should be a 20 cent deposit for plastic bags?

That I could go for. Even at 10 cents you'd see those bags rounded
up in no time.

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Of course, this is the idea, but people don't want to be bothered. They simply don't have the discipline. When one is dealing with it directly, it is about discipline, and about half of the public responses of the people have been that they just don't want to bother with the simple act of bringing a few bags in.

Discipline is one thing. Shopping style another. I am monthly shopper.
And that's alot of bags.

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colliefan
guys and sewing don't mix

Tailor, Sailmaker, Saddlery, Upholsterers. and the list go on and on.
When I was in Service, I had to know how to use a singer sewing machine
It was part of the E-5 exam.

When you see the burly guys jump out of the Coast Guard Helicopters,
just think of them back at their shop with a sewing machine repairing
all of the gear.
( PS, No I didn't do that, but knew a few who did)

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colliefan
I am lucky I don't **** a finger trying to resew a button on my pants.

Totally understand. Guess I was lucky that my mom is a sewer and past
on some things so Just for you.

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Never used one so dunno if they are worth it not.

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...and that includes the leather seat on one of his motorcycles.

Good for him. Nice skill to have.

<< For Him >>
Can be on the spendy side as a hobby. But fun.

<< For You >>
Seems a bit small for a "marketbag" The picture is a little misleading.
Any design(s) are done solely by the crafter.




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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 1:10:19 PM   
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 4:57:05 PM   
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The great thing about a paper sack is that blood circulation is not interrupted to the fingertips when carrying it, like one of those urban tumbleweed plastic bags. Now, some cloth shopping bags that same size could be interesting. There'd be a wood platform bottom to them to help them stand upright? Plus, you'd get to tell the cashier to fill the bag, and fill it properly- some cashiers put one or two items in a bag and then its on to another one.

Have there been more forest fires since paper bags went out of style? Kraft brown paper is strong stuff, and doesn't have to require the most choice woods? If someone would say save the trees, use these paper sacks made from bramble and mess that help spread forest fires so easily, that wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Styrofoam has been talked about least. Bicycle helmets are made of styrofoam, but no one is going to glue together their own helmet. I see it used mostly with carry-out boxes at restaurants. Has anyone read if it's been studied in using as an insulator in an attic? Recycled paper is popular for this. No one would want food-caked trashy styrofoam in their attic, but if it was shredded up and washed?

Just take your old sleeping bag in to the grocery and ask them to fill it up, except for your eggs. That would give the man a new accessory- the man egg purse! Also there'd be the man bread clutch (in team colors with logos).

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 7:13:29 PM   
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OneJohn410, you're funny!

Hey, my son calls me a tree hugger. I recycle everything. I used to make jewelry out of brown paper bads, using glue, fire, paint-paste, and fixative. I've made many things using them for paper mache, including bee hives for my kitchen. Haven't made a spotted owl yet, though.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 7:46:15 PM   
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I don't like brown paper bags because when I put anything more than 1 2-liter bottle in them and try to carry them they rip. I don't want to use my whole arm (or both) to carry a bag. Even the ones withi handles seem to rip.

I do have some green bags but sometimes I don't have enough.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 7/31/2008 10:20:14 PM   
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including bee hives for my kitchen


you have bees in your kitchen?
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/1/2008 12:23:55 AM   
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including bee hives for my kitchen

you have bees in your kitchen?

TONS!

I LOVE bees! I have bees with little red/white-checked wings, big fuzzy slipper-bees, cup-bees, pencil-bees, pen-bees, steak knife-bees, sticker-bees, magnet-bees, towel-bees, potholder-bees, plaque-bees, every kind of bees imaginable! They permeate my red & white kitchen!

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/1/2008 11:30:33 AM   
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including bee hives for my kitchen


you have bees in your kitchen?

I had bees in my bedroom chimney a few years back. I had honey dripping down it until the landlords got rid of them for me.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/1/2008 4:33:30 PM   
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What do you think of the idea?


I think it is an awful idea. We usually grocery shop twice a month and come away with a lot of groceries. We are already on a tight budget as it is. If a store in our area started doing this, all it would do is cause us to find a store that did not charge for their plastic bags (if there was one hopefully).

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/1/2008 4:55:59 PM   
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The twenty cent charge is on plastic and paper so no options. It is government imposed for ALL grocery store facilities in Seattle.... I am sure it will the 'burbs by next year and the whole state the next.

There is no opt out other than bring your own bag. Admittedly they are convenient but what if you buy more groceries than you have bags.... buy another or pay .20 for nothing (although they work well when cleaning the litter box)

The styrofoam issue is ALL... take home boxes for leftovers or take out meals. Meat trays in the grocery stores.

Also plastic forks and stuff at take out will be outta here.

Not to mention the Mayor now declaring "car free" days in certain areas of the city.

I think Seattle has caught what California has had for years....

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 3:07:48 AM   
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When I spent time in Germany (Meckenheim), most stores did not supply plastic bags - you bring your own reusable bags or crates.
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 4:38:14 PM   
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Sam's Club doesn't supply bags. The have old boxes at the front of the store in which to put your stuff/
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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 5:35:06 PM   
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The grocery stores we use around here all charge 5 cents per bag ... or you can bring your own (or use the boxes by the checkout). These stores also carry products at a lower price than the bigger name stores (ie. Food Basics vs. A&P) The other option offered by the stores is to bu one of their large plastic boxes (similar to a laundry basket) ... they are super durable and hold a LOT of groceries!

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 6:08:59 PM   
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What do you think of the idea?


I think it is an awful idea. We usually grocery shop twice a month and come away with a lot of groceries. We are already on a tight budget as it is. If a store in our area started doing this, all it would do is cause us to find a store that did not charge for their plastic bags (if there was one hopefully).

But there's nothing to stop you taking bags that you've already used back with you when you go shopping is there ~ a point that was also raised in the OP.

I do have mixed feelings about people being charged for cheap carriers, but then I have a problem with people getting new carrier bags every time they go into a store and then using them for rubbish or to pick up dog muck. I don't see why I should pay higher food prices to save them money in this way. I have less of a problem with people being charged for carriers that are stronger and can/shoud be reused many times.

There are few people who are unable to take their own bags to the store when they go shopping.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 7:15:58 PM   
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There are few people who are unable to take their own bags to the store when they go shopping.

Talk to us, Agape. I am trying to think of a circumstance that people cannot bring bags. We need to understand. Thank you!!

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 7:21:42 PM   
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There are few people who are unable to take their own bags to the store when they go shopping.

Talk to us, Agape. I am trying to think of a circumstance that people cannot bring bags. We need to understand. Thank you!!

Ok, I admit, I can't think of any really! I was just covering myself cos I know if I said there weren't any someone would come up with one...

Having said that.... (and I think I mentioned this already), I went into a new supermarket (for a nose more than anything) the other week and bought more than expected (something to do with a good money-off voucher they gave me once I was inside) so I hadn't gone expecting to buy heaps so didn't take any bags. I did however pick up a reuseable bag, which I'd normally have been charged for, but there was no scan code so it was free (and I've reused it several times since then).

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 7:32:56 PM   
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Okay, Agape! You're cute! I was trying to figure that out.

I know that some say that their budgets are so tight that having to buy a cloth bag is difficult. Most are right at $1 here, unless the buyer wants an insulated or fancy one. When I give grocery gifts, I always give a real nice reusable grocery bag with it. People really appreciate that.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 7:51:14 PM   
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Okay, Agape! You're cute! I was trying to figure that out.





One of the stores here has had 2-4-1 offers before on cloth bags and I've bought them, but they're not that big (but do fold neatly). They're normally about £1 each I think. The one I got from the new store was a heavy-duty plastic one and would have cost 40p (80c) I think. It's handy cos at the ends it has pockets so you can put bottles in them to keep them upright. I think even the insulated ones are a reasonable price too.

Yes, there's an initial outlay, but it doesn't have to be done all in one go.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 8:52:49 PM   
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Hey! Thank you! I like the bottle-pockets idea. I plan on making some more bags, and that will help me.

Often, of Fridays, I go to a deli to buy some of our Friday night Sabbath meal, and I really like my insulated grocery bags. Great for keeping the good hot until I get home, but I have two, in case I buy my husband ice cream.

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RE: Grocery Bag Green Fees & Ban on Styrofoam - 8/3/2008 11:57:54 PM   
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but then I have a problem with people getting new carrier bags every time they go into a store and then using them for rubbish or to pick up dog muck.


Then what do you suggest I pick up my dog's messes with? Either way some sort of plastic is going to end up in the garbage can. Now if the dog would keep her messes to my yard it wouldn't be so bad, but there are times when we are out walking OR to dog gets over to the neighbor's yard and well makes a mess. And if you think about it - the mark up on products pays for the grocer to buy the plastic and paper bags, so in a round about way I AM paying for them. It may help a bit to reduce the plastic problem IF the people bagging groceries would learn how to bag groceries.

And to the styrofoam issue. Yes there should be more efficient means of packaging that would still keep the meat wrapped safely and keep the juices from leaking all over my other groceries or my reusable bags.

I also go shopping as few times a month as possible - considering the nearest grocery store is 11 miles away, and the nearest WalMart- 20 miles or so. So when we go shopping we make as many stops as possible and often end up with 20 to 30 bags in back of the van from various shops and stores. And what if I end up being short a few bags when we hit the grocery store as our final stop?

Oh another great use for those plastic bags - Barf bags for a child that suffers from car sickness and we all know that sometimes you simply can't pull over fast enough. Having a couple plastic Walmart bags stashed in the cubby holes of the van have saved us a number of times!!

I do have a few reusable bags that we do use, but I think those of us that have the biggest beef with it are those of us that do large shopping trips just a couple times a month - Even at $1 a bag - for folks like me with large families and always lots of groceries, and strict budgets - $20 or $30 is a big chunk of our grocery budgets. And then there's the storage of those bags and the guessing of how many I would need to bring in the store with without having to run back out to the car.

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