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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/15/2008 11:11:22 AM   
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The Chargers-Broncos game was a classic. How aboput Shanahan going for two instead of playing for OT. I'd love to see more of that. I'd even support a rule requiring a team go for two when scoring a TD in the last minute (when down by seven).

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/15/2008 12:39:55 PM   
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The Chargers-Broncos game was a classic. How aboput Shanahan going for two instead of playing for OT. I'd love to see more of that. I'd even support a rule requiring a team go for two when scoring a TD in the last minute (when down by seven).


Yeah San Diego blew another one in the final minutes! They won't make it to the Super Bowl (like predicted) if they keep playing like that! I'd be super if I were their defensive coach.

Shanahan is know to be a risk taker but I think that is definitely when you would go for two. Of course, if they didn't convert, they'd be calling for his head! But since it worked he's a darn genius!

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/15/2008 1:34:42 PM   
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eah San Diego blew another one in the final minutes!



BUT! DEY WAS ROBBED!!!

My Colts pulled this one out of their hats at the last minute, man givin' me an ulcer trying to watch that game. Gonzalez to Wayne lateral....(sounds heard in the freak household) AAAAAHHHHHH No Gonza..... OH YES, GO WAYNE GO! Never had I had to go from complete tears to complete joy, not even on my wedding day.

It is good to see that the Pack are holding up, I know it was the Lions but how many points can the Packers score? WOW!, Although I think next week they go to Dallas! That will be a game. And speaking of the Packers, can we all laugh any louder at Brett Favre? What the??? And how's bout them Dolphins... same old same old, but the Cardinals looked relatively good.

HEY COW451, SHOUT OUT TO YOUR GIANTS! Saint Louis Rams have never looked sooooo sad, unreal.
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/15/2008 2:47:08 PM   
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eah San Diego blew another one in the final minutes!



BUT! DEY WAS ROBBED!!!

My Colts pulled this one out of their hats at the last minute, man givin' me an ulcer trying to watch that game. Gonzalez to Wayne lateral....(sounds heard in the freak household) AAAAAHHHHHH No Gonza..... OH YES, GO WAYNE GO! Never had I had to go from complete tears to complete joy, not even on my wedding day.

It is good to see that the Pack are holding up, I know it was the Lions but how many points can the Packers score? WOW!, Although I think next week they go to Dallas! That will be a game. And speaking of the Packers, can we all laugh any louder at Brett Favre? What the??? And how's bout them Dolphins... same old same old, but the Cardinals looked relatively good.

HEY COW451, SHOUT OUT TO YOUR GIANTS! Saint Louis Rams have never looked sooooo sad, unreal.

That was an incredible play!

My Steelers didn't play up to par IMO against the Browns. Ugly win column. They better be up for the Eagles next week or they're going down! I guess to be fair, Rothlesberger's arm seemed strong despite the sholder dislocation. Ouch!

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/15/2008 5:28:49 PM   
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THIS is thus far the most ridiculous call I've seen this season.

I admit the Chiefs suck this year (and last year, and probably two years before that), but I don't see how this was ruled as a touchdown.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 9:47:57 AM   
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THIS is thus far the most ridiculous call I've seen this season.

I admit the Chiefs suck this year (and last year, and probably two years before that), but I don't see how this was ruled as a touchdown.


He switched the ball to his left hand, so it was on the inside of the pylon. The call was consistent to what they've done numerous times in the past. I've never agreed with it, to me the body is out of bounds, but it follows precedent.
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 12:05:03 PM   
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OK. So with the season only 2 weeks gone, I can already see several coaches that better turn their ships around, RIGHT NOW, or they're going to be on the hot seat (and in danger of the unemployment line) by the time the playoffs roll around.

AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THESE?

Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati Bengals)

Brad Childress (Minnesota Vikings)

Mike Nolan (San Francisco Forty-Niners)

Scott Linnehan (St. Louis Rams)

Romeo Crennel (Cleveland Browns)
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 12:43:10 PM   
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I think San Francisco is playing better than anyone expected them to.
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 2:42:03 PM   
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How bout that Monday night game?!?!

How bout them COWBOYS!!!!!!!

I know it's only game 2 but it was a great game.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 2:58:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DreadPirateRandy

THIS is thus far the most ridiculous call I've seen this season.

I admit the Chiefs suck this year (and last year, and probably two years before that), but I don't see how this was ruled as a touchdown.


He switched the ball to his left hand, so it was on the inside of the pylon. The call was consistent to what they've done numerous times in the past. I've never agreed with it, to me the body is out of bounds, but it follows precedent.


You would never have seen that called a touchdown in the days when football was played the way it was meant, on the frozen tundra.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 3:15:27 PM   
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The Chargers-Broncos game was a classic. How aboput Shanahan going for two instead of playing for OT. I'd love to see more of that. I'd even support a rule requiring a team go for two when scoring a TD in the last minute (when down by seven).


yeah that was gutsy call ... and noticing defense had no timeouts to prepare for the play and to be aggressive...

would you support a rule requiring a team down by 3 inside opponents 10 to go for winning touchdown instead of kicking field goal?
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 3:19:23 PM   
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How bout that Monday night game?!?!

How bout them COWBOYS!!!!!!!

I know it's only game 2 but it was a great game.


yeah that was really exciting game ... it helped i was rooting (slightly) for the cowboys
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 3:53:18 PM   
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would you support a rule requiring a team down by 3 inside opponents 10 to go for winning touchdown instead of kicking field goal?


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I'd even support a rule requiring a team go for two when scoring a TD in the last minute (when down by seven).


I'm sorry but I am totally against both of those rule changes. They unnaturally force a coach to go against their strategic best interests and are way too situation based.

The one thing that may cause road teams to choose to do the above is to say that home team gets the ball first in OT, no coin toss. If the coach knows the other side will get the ball first it may cause him to take a chance. And it gives a boost to home field advantage, which I like. It even has a side benefit to the road team as then they won't have to wonder how the coin toss will turn out, one less uncertainty to worry about.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 4:03:39 PM   
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I'm sorry but I am totally against both of those rule changes. They unnaturally force a coach to go against their strategic best interests and are way too situation based.


agreed ... yeah that's what i was trying to go for ...
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 4:51:39 PM   
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Thoughts on Cowboys - Eagles game.

What a great defensive game! With 78 points scored their respective defensive coordinators must be proud!

McNabb (thinking): Should I hand it off or not?
Westbrook (thinking): Is he going to hand it off or not?
McNabb: Oh darn!

Somebody also should tell McNabb that throwing at his receiver's chest is better than his feet!

DeSean, passing the goal line gets you a touchdown! Football 101.

Sorry Philadelphia, if you can't beat Dallas after scoring 37 points you aren't going to make it to the Super Bowl.

Romo, Witten and Barber were incredible and they didn't need a big diamond in their ear to show how good they are. TO owes everything to Romo. With passes like that, my grandma could make big plays.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 6:48:57 PM   
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The Chargers-Broncos game was a classic. How aboput Shanahan going for two instead of playing for OT. I'd love to see more of that. I'd even support a rule requiring a team go for two when scoring a TD in the last minute (when down by seven).


yeah that was gutsy call ... and noticing defense had no timeouts to prepare for the play and to be aggressive...

would you support a rule requiring a team down by 3 inside opponents 10 to go for winning touchdown instead of kicking field goal?

Nah on your idea. I would like to see OT changed so that each team gets at least one possession if the first team scores on the first possession that the second has to "play to win", i.e., go for a TD if down by three or go for two if down by seven.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/16/2008 8:41:38 PM   
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I would like to see OT changed so that each team gets at least one possession if the first team scores on the first possession that the second has to "play to win", i.e., go for a TD if down by three or go for two if down by seven.


Thats a popular idea but I disagree. Defense is part of the game. If the toss doesn't go your way stop the other team. Or you lose. Its the NFL baby.

College OT is interesting but not for the NFL.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 5:23:55 AM   
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Romo, Witten and Barber were incredible



And the newest weapon Mr.Felix Jones.



Go Cowboys! Go Texans!

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 8:11:15 AM   
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Romo, Witten and Barber were incredible



And the newest weapon Mr.Felix Jones.



Go Cowboys! Go Texans!


That 99 yard ko return (first since 2003) was awesome! I know TO has talent but he is too much into himself rather than into the team. He gets TD's but I feel he does it more for his own ego than for a team win.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 9:56:26 AM   
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DeSean, passing the goal line gets you a touchdown! Football 101.


I heard one of the sports guys refer to this as "he made a rookie mistake"; which to me is an insult to almost all past, current and future rookies.
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 3:08:39 PM   
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Went to the Jets-Patroits game sunday. What an experience. Brett played reasonably well but the Pats were just the better team that day.

Glad my niners won as well.
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 3:29:39 PM   
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OK. So with the season only 2 weeks gone, I can already see several coaches that better turn their ships around, RIGHT NOW, or they're going to be on the hot seat (and in danger of the unemployment line) by the time the playoffs roll around.

AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THESE?

Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati Bengals)

Brad Childress (Minnesota Vikings)

Mike Nolan (San Francisco Forty-Niners)

Scott Linnehan (St. Louis Rams)

Romeo Crennel (Cleveland Browns)


Surprised to not see Lane Kiffin since if you read a lot of sports blogs, it's almost like Al Davis has had it in for him since Monte's boy was hired.

Out of the ones listed, I line them up in this order from hottest seat to coolest:

1. Linehan (personally, I don't think he'll finish the year out)
2. Lewis
3. Nolan
4. Crennel
5. Childress
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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 6:34:55 PM   
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Desean made a rookie mistake? Rookie for Pop Warner football maybe but he didn't look eight years old to me.

Progs for Week 3
Atlanta over KC
Buffalo will stampede over the Raiders
Bucs over Bears
Carolina over Vikings (although Minnesota is due for a win)
Pats over Miami (patsy's wimpy schedule will give them another winning season even sans Brady)
Giants over Bengals
Titans over Texans
Arizona over Skins
Denver over Saints (Broncos are on fire)
Lions over Niners
Seattle over Lambs (for their first win of the season)
Baltimore over Browns
Colts over Jags
Steelers over Eagles
Green Bay over Dallas (I'm a second rate cheesehead)
San Diego over Jets (Chargers have something to prove! Of course as long as they lead by over a TD in the final 5:00 )

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 7:53:24 PM   
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I know TO has talent but he is too much into himself rather than into the team. He gets TD's but I feel he does it more for his own ego than for a team win.


True, he is into himself. So far he has been a pretty good team player.
He gets along with Romo very well.
I think he realizes he isn't getting any younger, and if he wants to cap his career with a superbowl he needs to be more humble than in the past.

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RE: NFL 2008-2009 - 9/17/2008 10:48:47 PM   
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mapachito13


Would you mind ranking your top three lock wins for me.
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