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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 1:59:28 PM
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atheistinpeace
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BTW, I haven't purchased anything at McDonalds in over 10 years - since I decided to take my health more seriously.
Now that's an excellent reason for avoiding McDonalds!
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 4:27:14 PM
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I don't think I'm going to boycott McDonalds for many of the reasons some of the posters listed.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 7:49:47 PM
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I boycott McDonald's because, well, it sucks.
Regardless of what a company supports, I'm not going to avoid getting what I need from said company. I don't follow the company, I acquire necessities for every day life.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 7:52:35 PM
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Shall we list out all the companies that have a "pro-gay" agenda so we can all boycott them?
Hold on to your hats... you might have to go back to the bare basics...
Exactly.
Why do some Christians act shocked when non-Christian organizations and non-Christian individuals... act like such?
Someone pass me a napkin for my Big Mac.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 10:00:51 PM
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Why is it always gay-related issues that get boycotts from the AFA et al and not mistreatment of workers, or wide-scale pollution, or exploiting financial loopholes to make billions for a few people while causing entire industries to falter? It seems to me that those issues have the potential to destroy many more families than promoting certain legal rights for gay couples.
-Dan.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 10:30:59 PM
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Why is it always gay-related issues that get boycotts from the AFA et al and not mistreatment of workers, or wide-scale pollution, or exploiting financial loopholes to make billions for a few people while causing entire industries to falter? It seems to me that those issues have the potential to destroy many more families than promoting certain legal rights for gay couples.
-Dan.
I can't believe I just read this socialist propaganda on a Christian forum.
(I was being sarcastic, btw.)
But seriously, I think we as Christians can't focus on one sin while turning a blind eye to others, lest we be hypocrites.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/30/2008 10:49:48 PM
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But I like happy meal toys. Ah man! 
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 9:46:52 AM
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kernsfamily
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ORIGINAL: iluvatar
Why is it always gay-related issues that get boycotts from the AFA et al and not mistreatment of workers, or wide-scale pollution, or exploiting financial loopholes to make billions for a few people while causing entire industries to falter? It seems to me that those issues have the potential to destroy many more families than promoting certain legal rights for gay couples.
-Dan.
Because the "gay issue" is the Christian "hot button" issue of the day.....it's the one that makes NEWS.....the others, well, not so much. And, the AFA doesn't seem to bother to do a "boycott", unless it generates publicity for their organization (which, in turn, brings in more donations and money)....and, the "gay issue" is what people are "responding" to.....in other words, they put out what people want to hear.....
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 9:49:04 AM
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Why is it always gay-related issues that get boycotts from the AFA et al and not mistreatment of workers, or wide-scale pollution, or exploiting financial loopholes to make billions for a few people while causing entire industries to falter? It seems to me that those issues have the potential to destroy many more families than promoting certain legal rights for gay couples.
-Dan.
Because the "gay issue" is the Christian "hot button" issue of the day.....it's the one that makes NEWS.....the others, well, not so much. And, the AFA doesn't seem to bother to do a "boycott", unless it generates publicity for their organization (which, in turn, brings in more donations and money)....and, the "gay issue" is what people are "responding" to.....in other words, they put out what people want to hear.....
And yet (as I mentioned earlier) nobody's mentioning the idea of praying for those in leadership at McDonald's. Why not I wonder? Prayer can accomplish what boycotts cannot.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 10:05:40 AM
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Prayer can accomplish what boycotts cannot.
And usually more.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 10:13:25 AM
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Prayer can accomplish what boycotts cannot.
And always more.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 10:51:37 AM
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Why is it always gay-related issues that get boycotts from the AFA ET AL and not mistreatment of workers, or wide-scale pollution, or exploiting financial loopholes to make billions for a few people while causing entire industries to falter? It seems to me that those issues have the potential to destroy many more families than promoting certain legal rights for gay couples.
-Dan.
[sarcasm]Dan, I thought you knew. Everyone knows that Mark 20 clearly states that if you have ever had contact in any form with a homosexual, then you are destined for hell. [/sarcasm]
Seriously, the AFA is a business. It must make money to survive. There is more money in targeting homosexuals than there is in targeting the issues that you've mentioned.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 12:11:43 PM
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Personally I boycott Don Wildmon and his AFA network. The way he grew his business was not based on Christian principles. I live in Lake Charles where this happened and it has left a bad taste in my mouth ever since.
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Launched in 1987, AFR has approximately 200 radio stations in 27 states across the country. According to American Family Radio, "AFR has built more stations in a shorter time than any other broadcaster in the history of broadcasting." The AFA built their small radio empire by applying for noncommercial educational licenses. According to a People for the American Way Right Wing Watch report, "When the FCC refused to grant certain licenses, the AFA sued the FCC in federal court arguing that to deny religious groups noncommercial broadcasting licenses violates their First Amendment and Equal Protection rights."
According to the AFA's 2005 990 tax form, the "Building and maintenance of a national Christian network" is one of the organization's most important projects. American Family Radio -- "Today's Radio for Life" -- is a 24/7 operation that "offers the finest in inspirational and traditional Christian music [about 70 percent of the programming] and 30 percent preaching / teaching / talking." American Family Radio also provides a "five-minute, around the clock, newscast" put together by its news staff. It is "a non-commercial network," with "no advertising," that "operates off contributions from listeners and supporters."
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 2:26:39 PM
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Seriously, the AFA is a business. It must make money to survive. There is more money in targeting homosexuals than there is in targeting the issues that you've mentioned.
For those who don't understand that there is money to be made in "non-commercial" and "non-profit", think again.
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Personally I boycott Don Wildmon and his AFA network. The way he grew his business was not based on Christian principles. I live in Lake Charles where this happened and it has left a bad taste in my mouth ever since.
Yes.
Many of the frequencies which AFA has obtained, non-commerical FM's also called "educational" frequencies were intended for local use for the benefit of local communities. That would mean local ownership, employment and the money staying in that community. Wildmon's "satellites" carrying his Tupelo programming do not follow that intention.
McDonald's locations, in contrast, provide jobs in communities at every location.
That's a big contrast to me.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 7/31/2008 5:53:31 PM
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Carleejoan
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I don't see anything "boycotts" accomplish. Also those petitions that get sent around the internet with all those names on. What on earth do they do? I think they land up in never, never land. Writing letters to the companies, your local politicians, etc may get more accomplished as far as popular opinion. But, the gay agenda will still go forward as they're playing the "martyrs" pretty good. The rest of us evangelical fundementalists are the "ones to be lambasted" for our narrow and intolerant thinking.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/1/2008 12:54:28 AM
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StephK
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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva
Seriously, the AFA is a business. It must make money to survive. There is more money in targeting homosexuals than there is in targeting the issues that you've mentioned.
For those who don't understand that there is money to be made in "non-commercial" and "non-profit", think again.
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ORIGINAL: StephK
Personally I boycott Don Wildmon and his AFA network. The way he grew his business was not based on Christian principles. I live in Lake Charles where this happened and it has left a bad taste in my mouth ever since.
Yes.
Many of the frequencies which AFA has obtained, non-commerical FM's also called "educational" frequencies were intended for local use for the benefit of local communities. That would mean local ownership, employment and the money staying in that community. Wildmon's "satellites" carrying his Tupelo programming do not follow that intention.
McDonald's locations, in contrast, provide jobs in communities at every location.
That's a big contrast to me.
The truth is that this area did not need his radio station because we had a very nice local Christian station that had a good mix of teaching and music. He was predatory and cutthroat when he took over those signals. He didn't care about anything other than spreading his warped dominionism teaching and making a lot of money.
You are spot on about how McDonald's gives back more to the local communities for each store that is open than AFA's two or three local employees who are employed at the stations. People have jobs, sales taxes benefit local governments, subsidiary businesses are dependent on selling their products to the chains so that means more people employed and more money staying in the local economies and on and on it goes.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/1/2008 9:07:29 AM
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You are spot on about how McDonald's gives back more to the local communities for each store
Let's say this "boycott" is successful....will that cause donations to the Ronald McDonald House program to dwindle, as well? Theoretically, that would be likely to happen......(you always have the opportunity to drop in a few bucks at the register).....
And, the Ronald McDonald house program is one of the most successful, and beneficial, "company initiated" charitiable programs ever. A huge blessing to all families who have had a need met through that program.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/1/2008 9:09:34 AM
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Let's say this "boycott" is successful....will that cause donations to the Ronald McDonald House program to dwindle, as well? Theoretically, that would be likely to happen......(you always have the opportunity to drop in a few bucks at the register).....
And, the Ronald McDonald house program is one of the most successful, and beneficial, "company initiated" charitiable programs ever. A huge blessing to all families who have had a need met through that program.
Amen
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/1/2008 11:36:31 AM
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I agree that boycotts aren't as successful as prayer.
And, as many have pointed out, we are dealing with human lives when we attempt to boycott a large entity. I don't have statistics, but I'm sure many of the employees disagree with anti-family agenda, but they need their jobs.
For example, my husband and I bought another Ford (OH, NO!!) last year, because over the past few years my husband had developed a relationship with the salesman there, he had been really honest and good to us. We found out he was experiencing a tough time in his life, going through divorce & very broken. Hubby was able to talk with him. And, we have prayed for him as a couple.
I am not trying to "toot our horn" -- I'm just saying we need to see all the angles.
I am afraid that as Christians, we turn alot of people off when we take such a hard position. I'm not saying we do nothing - we need to take action. Express our voice and opinion to state representatives & senators - in a respectful way. VOTE!!! PRAY!!!
I live in MA and it was just on news last night that our governor signed law that same-sex couples from other states can now come here to get married. They claim this will bring tons of revenue into the state. While ya'll pray for CA, can you lift up MA, too??? And, I'll do the same. 
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/2/2008 4:04:54 AM
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99% of the time, I just roll my eyes when someone calls for a boycott of something... however, I'm getting convicted over this one. Anybody else can do what they like, but I know that my conscience is telling me that McDonalds corporation has taken a specific stand that I can't support on purpose. If isn't just giving money to support the gay pride parade in SF that worries me... what worries me is that they took steps to not only appear publically as a corporate partner of the event, but they also forked over money to get a spot at the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce.
As I said, do what you like... but my conscience is clear on this one.
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RE: Boycott McDonalds - 8/2/2008 7:13:52 AM
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But so hasn't so many other companies though. I will say that there is a bank in my area that I will not use because of their views however.
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