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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/19/2008 10:09:21 PM   
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Exactly.

I am waiting for the first real debate when the questioner has follow-up questions when the candidate avoids answering the original question (though with Tim Russert gone, I'm not sure who can play that role). We'll see how they both do then....


I have to say, having seen my share of debates, that this one was much more substantive than most back and forth venues we have seen thus far this season - or in recent elections.

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/19/2008 11:36:00 PM   
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On a lighter note, when I first heard this on *cough cough* FNC, contributing pundit/TIME editorialist, Charles Krauthammer (sp?) remarked out of verbatim, that Warren's pop cultural reference to the oft-dubious, anti-bugging, "Get Smart" technology (Cone of Silence) seems to have taken on a proverbial, "life-imitating-art" surrealism!

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 10:03:16 AM   
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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 5:02:32 PM   
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I am not an avid McCain supporter, but it is pretty obvious that he spanked Obama so hard

It wasn't obvious to me. That sort of quick-response recitation of talking points turns me off. I'm attracted to a candidate who appears to actually think about a question and respond to it; one who appreciates the nuance and complexities of various issues.
-Dan.

Nuance and complexity. That's the standard liberal dodge when confronted with their own moral confusion and lack of commitment to the standards and values of most Americans.

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 5:48:47 PM   
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You left out thoughtfulness. Just thought I'd help......

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I am not an avid McCain supporter, but it is pretty obvious that he spanked Obama so hard

It wasn't obvious to me. That sort of quick-response recitation of talking points turns me off. I'm attracted to a candidate who appears to actually think about a question and respond to it; one who appreciates the nuance and complexities of various issues.
-Dan.

Nuance and complexity. That's the standard liberal dodge when confronted with their own moral confusion and lack of commitment to the standards and values of most Americans.


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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 6:42:28 PM   
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You left out thoughtfulness. Just thought I'd help......

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I am not an avid McCain supporter, but it is pretty obvious that he spanked Obama so hard

It wasn't obvious to me. That sort of quick-response recitation of talking points turns me off. I'm attracted to a candidate who appears to actually think about a question and respond to it; one who appreciates the nuance and complexities of various issues.
-Dan.

Nuance and complexity. That's the standard liberal dodge when confronted with their own moral confusion and lack of commitment to the standards and values of most Americans.


Thanks for the help Dave - listing three liberal dodges in one post was far too complex and nuanced for a simple conservative like me.

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 8:07:02 PM   
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I am not an avid McCain supporter, but it is pretty obvious that he spanked Obama so hard

It wasn't obvious to me. That sort of quick-response recitation of talking points turns me off. I'm attracted to a candidate who appears to actually think about a question and respond to it; one who appreciates the nuance and complexities of various issues.
-Dan.

Nuance and complexity. That's the standard liberal dodge when confronted with their own moral confusion and lack of commitment to the standards and values of most Americans.


I've never understood why so many conservatives look down on knowledge, discernment, and understanding - how is it a bad thing to try to understand and contemplate all of the facets of a situation? It's almost a badge of honor these days to run around proclaiming how ignorant and simplistic your views are.

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 8:16:59 PM   
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I am waiting for the first real debate when the questioner has follow-up questions when the candidate avoids answering the original question (though with Tim Russert gone, I'm not sure who can play that role). We'll see how they both do then....



Here is the 2008 General Election Debate Schedule:

The Commission on Presidential Debates has announced the moderators for the four presidential/vice presidential debates -- one of whom is NBC's own Tom Brokaw.

First presidential debate
Friday, September 26
The University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.
Jim Lehrer
Executive Editor and Anchor, The NewsHour, PBS

Vice presidential debate
Thursday, October 2
Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.
Gwen Ifill
Senior Correspondent, The NewsHour, and Moderator and Managing Editor,
Washington Week, PBS

Second presidential debate (town meeting)
Tuesday, October 7
Belmont University, Nashville, Tenn.
Tom Brokaw
Special Correspondent, NBC News

Third presidential debate
Wednesday, October 15
Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.
Bob Schieffer
CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent, and Host, Face the Nation


I noticed that they are all moderated by liberals. Go figure!

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 8:31:27 PM   
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Exactly.

I am waiting for the first real debate when the questioner has follow-up questions when the candidate avoids answering the original question (though with Tim Russert gone, I'm not sure who can play that role). We'll see how they both do then....



I have to say, having seen my share of debates, that this one was much more substantive than most back and forth venues we have seen thus far this season - or in recent elections.



I thought it was an insightful conversation...but due to time constraints, the moderator did not ask any follow-up questions. I would like to see a similar format (i.e. where the candidates are questioned individually) but with time for the moderator to ask deeper follow-up questions.
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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 8:58:12 PM   
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I love this, so now "I,uh, well, hmmmm, uh, you know, uh..." is considered thoughtful and nuanced.

The Obama worshippers will jump through any hoop they have to to avoid admitting that their golden boy had his head handed to him Saturday night....

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 9:17:54 PM   
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I love this, so now "I,uh, well, hmmmm, uh, you know, uh..." is considered thoughtful and nuanced.


That isn't what I said, is it? Should I start claiming that conservatives think that misquoting and mischaracterizing people who disagree with them constitutes rational debate?

"uh," "well" and "um" aren't nuanced, but neither are "drill for oil now" and "I'll follow them to the gates of hell." At least "uh," "well," and "um" don't insult my intelligence.

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The Obama worshippers will jump through any hoop they have to to avoid admitting that their golden boy had his head handed to him Saturday night....


Because I don't start cheering at party boilerplate rhetoric, I'm an Obama worshipper?

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/20/2008 9:45:56 PM   
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Because I don't start cheering at party boilerplate rhetoric, I'm an Obama worshipper?


There's no doubt that McCain told that conservative audience exactly what they wanted to hear, and they ate it up like tapioca.

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RE: Did McCain Cheat? - 8/21/2008 1:31:53 AM   
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Yum.... tapioca. Hot, and with raisins, please.

Nuanced translation for Obama disciples:

Uhh, I, uhh, believe that, uhh, well, as I have, uhh, said on numerous occasions, uhh, as far as, uhh, a-a-a-s far as deserts made from, uhh, root starch go, uhh, I, uhh, have nothing against, uhh... tapioca, so long as, uhh, a-a-a-s it is served with, uhh raisins? Now has anyone seen my teleprompter?

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