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August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 8:17:42 AM
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vmginny
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Proverbs 17:3
The refining pot is for silver and the furnace for gold,
But the LORD tests hearts.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 8:21:35 AM
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vmginny
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New American Standard Life Application Bible Commentary Proverbs 17:3
It takes intense heat to refine gold and silver. Similarly, it often takes the heat of trials for the Christian to be purified. Through trials, God shows us what is in us and clears out anything that gets in the way of complete trust in him. Peter says that trials cone "so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: (1 Peter 1:7). So when tough times come your way, realize that God wants to use them to refine your faith and purify your heart.[/size]
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 8:28:45 AM
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vmginny
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I am reading Proverbs 17 this morning so I decided to use a scripture verse from the chapter I was reading.
Hubby was telling me this morning that he won't talk to me about faith because I preach. I told him I talk the same way with him as I do my friends and co-workers and he and my family are the only ones who feel I am coming across as preaching when I share my thoughts.
Leah, what do you think? Do I come across as preaching when I talk to you?
One of his examples this morning was that when my son came back from going to church with his girlfriend I asked him 3 times what the sermon message was. Guess son ignored me the first 2 times. All I wanted was for my son to tell me what he heard and share. I didn't feel I was preaching.
Geesh, nothing I do comes across right to my family. How is this trial testing my heart? What is God trying to draw out here in me?
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 1:18:54 PM
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Good morning, Barb and Ginny! Barb, that's cool about your grandbabies. Surely their parents know how important Jesus is to you and that you will share about him to their kids. Ginny, when hearts aren't receptive to the Holy Spirit, any mention of Jesus or anything related to Jesus will feel like preaching because they KNOW where they should be but aren't and your words add to the guilt and conviction they feel--even though they would probably not think that's what's happening. I rarely talk about Jesus or church to my two sons who aren't interested. They know the truth and they know where I stand. I figure that if my life is focused on Jesus, they won't be able to avoid his presence even if I am quiet. I'm not sure if this is the right approach or not, but it's what I've chosen to do. Also, before dh became enthusiastic about Jesus, at the beginning I used to really badger him. I did preach to him as much as I could--probably because he had originally presented himself as a committed believer and then did not follow through. But I eventually (took me a long time) discovered that all my talk did nothing to give him a desire to change. In fact, it may have strengthened his resolve against following Jesus, so I stopped sharing and preaching and let him be.
I'm home, finally. It's nice to be home. Yesterday was a very long day of driving and full of internal stress. I'm glad it's over.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 2:48:30 PM
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I agree with what Maggie said, Ginny. No, you don't come off as preachy to me, but that's because I'm not convicted by what you say cuz I'm already serving the Lord. Many people who aren't serving Him are very put off by talk of the Lord in any fashion. And yes, like Maggie, I learned the hard way that all my preaching, cajoling, forcing one-sided 'discussions' simply drove Bill further away. In my opinion, this is an area where it's best to heed the Biblical way and allow -- REALLy allow the Holy Spirit to do the work.
Barb, I think it's great that you are teaching your grandchildren that Jesus loves them. And as much as ppl try to push Jesus away, seldom do they go so far as to push Him out of their kids' life. Even my son in law, who claims to be an athiest, doesn't discourage the granddaughters from including Him in their talk or singing songs about Him, etc.
I have a very long post in my thread about my weekend, and I don't want to copy the whole thing here. Anyway, for today, I decided I'd bake some cookies for the kids' afterschool snack -- seems I may have more than Garrett & Eddie (see my thread). So, I've got 5 dozen oatmeal scotchies on the counter cooling. Now I need to go clean up my mess 
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 2:50:16 PM
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Oops!! . . . Welcome home, Maggie! 
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 3:01:17 PM
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Thanks, Linda!
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/25/2008 4:39:50 PM
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Thanks for the scripture and commentary Ginny.
I hope you can relax at home now, Maggie.
Barb, I agree, the little ones can show Jesus to others!
Leah, I'll have to go check out your thread.
It's the second week of school; still trying to get into a new routine.
Dee
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/26/2008 7:27:40 AM
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quote:
It's the second week of school; still trying to get into a new routine.
Me too, Dee.
Barb, keep singing to the grandkids.
Leah, hope you got some sleep last night.
Maggie, the final say-how was your trip overall?
I miss my cigarettes. A smoke was the first thing I did in the morning and it was my wake up call. I would go out in the back yard and watch the birds, squirrels, rabbits and enjoy nature and inhale my cig. Now I am having trouble getting up in the morning and adjusting to the change.
Guess I best get going and get my shower before I get DS up. We only have one bathroom.
Enjoy your day everyone.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/26/2008 7:48:09 AM
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Ginny, over all the trip was great--especially once we got to the nicer hotel. It was a nice little vacation.
Your comment about missing your time out in the backyard reminds me of my aunt who finally got indoor plumbing when I was about 30 years old. She told me how she missed her morning walks to the outhouse. You know, you could take your first cup of coffee outside to enjoy nature.
I've had about two hours of sleep. A migraine woke me up and I still have it so there's no point in going back to bed. It gets worse when I lie down.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/26/2008 9:25:04 AM
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I think that's pretty normal, Barb, to still think of your mom every day. Allow yourself to grieve and it will eventually get better. Try to keep the stiff upper lip and the grief will go underground affecting you in all sorts of negative ways.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/26/2008 5:10:07 PM
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Yes Maggie...that's waht Bill told me.
Insted of cooking today I decided to sew. It's working out teriffic, and I have half of Emma's quilt done already. Working on Brett's right now.
I had all this cut fabric, from the other quilts I made this last winter.
Hey might as well use it up.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/26/2008 5:23:29 PM
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I've had a migraine since the wee hours this morning. For an hour or two around noon I also had the most excruciating tummy pain--perhaps from taking 2 Tylenol 3's on a nearly empty stomach. Thankfully that pain left after I ate a half a cup of peanut butter (Linda said protein and it was the fastest and easiest--the jar sat right on the counter). I've lain in bed for much of the afternoon, reading a book but I'm tired of being there. I'm trying now to not sleep until 8:00 or so so that hopefully I can sleep through the night. I sure feel miserable.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 8:09:06 AM
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Thanks for the congrats Barb. Praise goes to God on kicking the habit, I know He's the one who made it possible.
It's neat for you to be able to quit and make things, you and Leah both. The results of your sewing labor linger on after the work is done and you can see what you've accomplished. Oftentimes I get discouraged because I can't see anything that I've accomplished and I think about how neat it would be to do what you do Barb and what Linda does in creating something.
Maggie, I sure hope you are feeling much better this morning and that ugly old migraine is gone.
Dee, are you doing better with the new school routine?
Leah, how did it go with the neighbor boys, with your after school child and Garrett yesterday?
This morning I chatted with my husband some about work. My immediate supervisor and I had a conversation yesterday and she told me that the rest of the faculty in my building are a team and will stand behind each other and that I AM part of that team! Made me feel good. She also gave me advice on how I should handle the home office for our department.
I didn't handle well last night the news my husband gave me that my older children were planning something as a surprise for my youngest son's birthday. The reason is I had already begun planning his birthday party and their plans changed mine.
Nor did I like the kids telling me that I didn't know my son very well and that they knew him better and he would like what they were doing better than what I had been planning. I sure hate getting told things like that. It doesn't sit well with me to always be put in the wrong. Like do I do anything right in their eyes?
The plans are to surprise him by taking him to a football game at the college he plans to attend. They got permission from his girlfriend's mom for her to attend as well and since it is a good distance away for her to stay with us in a hotel. They've made reservations at the hotel already before I was told of the plans.
Is it a sin to not always feel great and perhaps even raise your voice when things like this happen? My plans were discussed this past weekend with two of my son's friends for a boy/girl party. My son has never had one and when I was in high school it was the thing to do.
Ginny
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 9:09:38 AM
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Good Wen. morning everyone 
Ginny, I'm so sorry your children overstepped your party plans. Wish they could have at least included you in their plans. Tell them how they hurt your feelings. It would'ent hurt would it?
Speaking about family:
Sometimes my daughter-in-law works the third shift. I was asked if I could watch the grandsons on the next day, so she could sleep. I said I could watch them until noon. That would give Sarah about four hours sleep in the morning. Then when the boys nap in the afternoon she could lay down with them, and catch a couple ZZZ's The only problem with that is Ethan does'ent take naps anymore. I had him on a perfect schedule when I watched him during the day. But because I did'ent have him everyday..Sarah did'ent keep that schedule.She liked going to her friends house better than keeping him on any nap schedule.
Well the few times I had them while she was sleeping she would'ent come and pick them up until 4:30PM. One time she said she overslept..another time she called to tell me she did'ent have enough gas in her car to pick them up. So anyways...I informed her, again, I could only keep them today until noon. She asked why I could'ent keep them all day. That way she could sleep the whole 10 hours. I again told her I am sticking to our agreement of half a day. That was all I could handle! I could tell by her voice she was mad...and I did'ent get the boys this morning afterall. I called last night and asked Tommy what time he would be dropping them off. He said he would call me back...I never got that call. How RUDE is that? I really cannot handle six kids, all under 3 years old. That's how many are here when she adds Ethan and Brett to my days. I just can't get her to understand that! I don't know how that girl thinks sometimes. If it does'ent go her way look out!
So anyways...Moral of the story is I finally spoke up some.
Yes, you are right about the quilting and sewing projects. It is very rewarding. I just took a class on how to make that table runner, and it took off to the quilting of blankets. Then this summer my neighbor showed me how to make them dresses. That was hard to do tho.
But look what YOU accomplished. You QUIT smokeing!! That's BIG.
Maggie, I sure do hope you are feeling better today. {{{Maggie}}}
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 11:55:22 AM
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I too hope you are feeling better, Maggie.
I'm sorry your kids made plans without talking to you Ginny.
Barb, I'm sorry that your DIL doesn't understand your limitations.
Still working on the routine. I'm going to have to make sure the lights get turned out soon enough, particularly for my son. They like to read before they go to sleep, but he's having a hard time getting going in the mornings.
We had meet the teacher night for my son last night. It seemed like he was of to a bit of a rough start, but I think it'll be OK. She seemed like she'd be OK for him.
Dee
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 11:57:10 AM
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Good morning, everyone. I don't think I've been in here for a couple of days -- not sure . . but I have been reading.
Ginny, Barb is right, it IS a HUGE accomplishment to quit smoking. And yeah, it certainly is too bad the family couldn't consult you about making birthday plans, or at the very least, include you in them. You know, I don't think God wants us to be a doormat for our family. For them to make such big plans that will surely take a big bite out of the budget, for which you are the only one working -- well, that's just beyond inconsiderate of them. I don't know what, if anything, you can do about it, but I sure wouldn't fret over raising your voice -- and certainly it isn't your fault you don't always feel good. God recognizes our limitations better than we do.
Barb, I'm sorry nothing you baked turned out good Monday. I hate days like that, and I've had my share . . . switching to sewing was a grand idea, tho -- sounds like you accomplished a lot there  . . . . as far as the dil -- sounds like there's no pleasing her, so you just have to do what you're capable of and be clear to her what you will not accept. Your son is bound to see thru this eventually.
Maggie, hope you are getting some much needed rest, and feel much better when you get up.
Dee, I'm still trying to get into the 'school' routine too, now that I'm sending one off to school and welcoming two home -- not to mention the neighbor kids who are making a habit of coming down after school. I don't mind that, tho. It is good to see them again, and they are enjoying the cookies and the camaraderie with Eddie and myself. So, to answer your question, Ginny, it's working very well. I think I need to bake some more cookies today, tho, and I'm just not sure this body is up to it. I've been so tired all week -- last week too, come to think of it. Don't know what's going on. Maybe it's simply including the gym back in my schedule again. I went 3 times last week and have been twice this week. If this tiredness keeps up I may need to cut it to two days.
Today I'm going to an OA (Overeaters Anonymous) meeting . . . my friend and another lady started a chapter recently, but weren't happy about the location, so they are moving it to my church as of today. That commits me to going since I asked Pastor about using the church and told him I'd be part of the group. I'm sort of looking forward to it . . . just hope it helps me get a handle on this 
Time to get Garrett ready for the bus . . .
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 3:12:07 PM
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Hi friends!
I had a good sleep last night but the migraine has returned. ICK. But I'm out because I had my doctor's appointment (had to miss last week since we were out of town so I didn't want to miss today) and I'm scheduled to meet a childhood friend shortly. While I wait I'm having a chef's salad at a restaurant. Wow! They used a dinner plate and heaped everything so high they couldnt' have added anything more. And both the host and my waitress greeted me with great enthusiasm--more so than usual. The waitress probably recognizes me because I come here often (not because the food is great but because of the combination of location and price), but the host was new. He was all excited about my computer. It's a business model and so very sturdy. I think that's why he thought it was an old, out-dated one. I assured him it wasn't and when he saw I have Vista, he was amazed. Young kids!
Ginny, you have accomplished so much! I wish you could see it. Your quitting smoking is just the latest in a whole chain of accomplishments. Consider where you were four or five years ago! The difference is like night and day. I think about your courage in applying for a job and sticking with it despite all the grief you have had from supervisors. Not only that but you excell at this job and enjoy it. I consider your spiritual growth and frequently thank God for that. I also see growth in your interaction with your family. You have become more confident in standing up to them. Yeah, I know there's a way to go, but all you have accomplished is simply amazing. Barb and Linda manage to do all sorts of baking and sewing and stuff but remember that they're home all day (though they are working at home) and you are not. You also carry a much greater load at home than they do. It's not easy to work full time (and you work overtime too) and manage a household. But you have not only a household to manage but a very sick husband, a difficult marriage, abusive husband and children, grandchildren and grown children who remain dependent on you in various ways. I would have a hard time with that even not working full time. DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT!
That's awesome that you were so affirmed about being part of the team at work. YAY!!!!
Why do YOUR plans have to change because the rest of your family has planned something different for Zak? I bet he would like the party idea. Why not go ahead with it despite the other plans? You could get him involved in the planning and if the rest of the family objects, point out to them that with you planning the party, the football game will truly be a surprise because he wouldn't have a clue! Or at least ask him if he'd like to have such a party. I personally think it's a great idea!
You do a lot right for and with your family. Just because they don't acknowledge this doesn't mean you don't. And no, it is NOT a sin to not always feel great. Look at David! Look at Jeremiah! Look at Hosea and Jesus! No one can feel great all the time. Nor is it a sin to raise your voice. Do you think that Jesus didn't raise his voice that time he kicked the sellers out of the temple? Don't allow your family to guilt you into self-condemnation.
Barb, good for you for sticking to your guns about taking the kids in the morning only. The only way this daughter-in-law of yours will learn your boundaries is as you enforce them.
Dee, establishing routines after summer vacation can be so difficult. I'm glad your son has a good teacher.
Linda, I'm glad things are going so well with all the kids. You seem to be a natural with this. I'm sorry you're finding yourself so tired though. That's no fun. I hope you don't have to give up some of your gym time. Let me know how OA goes. I have the OA book my step-sister-in-law gave me years ago. I never did go very far with the group though.
Gee! My plate was so overfull that I've made a grand mess on the table with food spilling over. But I've finished in time to meet my friend, so that's good. If my migraine doesn't get too bad, I'll meet with ds3 to help him fill out some forms.
HA! In the middle of that last sentence I got a call from my friend who has been asked to work longer at work and can't meet me after all and I phoned ds3 who would rather wait till the weekend to do those forms. So I'm footloose and fancy free (except for this migraine which is staying at a dull roar for now--my tea probably helped). So I'm going to try to do more proofing on my manuscript so I can send it back to the publisher and not be the reason for more delays. Sigh.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/27/2008 6:31:58 PM
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Barb, good for you for sticking to your guns about taking the kids in the morning only. The only way this daughter-in-law of yours will learn your boundaries is as you enforce them.
I agree.
Leah, do you think it's the water? I've struggled with fatigue too and I don't live that far from you. Or our Missouri weather?
Hi Dee, Maggie.
Thanks for the wonderful feedback and support.
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RE: August 25th thru August 31st Looney Bin Chat - 8/28/2008 8:01:23 AM
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It's been quiet in here this week.
Today I got up at 6 am and took my shower first thing. I had to shampoo my hair and I hate doing that but since I did I wanted to get it over with right away. It's been real hard to have quiet time reading the Word and thinking about it so I did that next.
I am reading in Proverbs and I keep coming across verses that remind me I should be careful about what I say, not to sleep too much, be honest, etc. Proverbs is good in showing sin is easy and righteousness is work cause I know I tend to sleep too much at times, don't always use caution in what I say and I'm not always perfectly honest.
Hubby has been hurting. His appetite is poor and for a man who loves to eat and eat lots he isn't doing that anymore. Says his stomach hurts him. I'm concerned. I think he is too. And of course he is still bleeding like he's a woman having her time of the month.
Ginny
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