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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 3:38:00 PM
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doinkdom
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good grief  Christian critics 
whatever...
Here is a movie review by the NYTimes
We went with a group of couples and then talked about it on Saturday. The consensus was that the movie was worth the effort for anyone...married or not, because the message was so good. If the price keeps you away, then buy it.
I guess there was a special price or something for local firefighters, cause a ton of them came with their spouses.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 4:56:30 PM
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If the price keeps you away, then buy it.
$8 for a ticket vs $10 or $12 for a DVD? Oookay....
I'm still predisposed not to like this film, but I do suppose I can plunk down for a ticket and give it a shot. I had a friend whose opinion I trust tell me today that it was light years better than FACING THE GIANTS, and while that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement, I am likely to take his word and give it a shot....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 5:23:19 PM
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All-in-all I would say the movie was great, but had a significant amount of bad acting. Some of the acting problems may have had more to do with some clumsy dialog from the script, but it was there either way.
Definitely moments of laughs, and moments to ride the edge of your seat (one of which did not turn out all that predictable in the scheme of modern movies). As many others have said, there were lots of tears (from men and women alike). I have no problem with Kirk Cameron, though I suspect those that really dislike him do so because of his 'teen hearthrob' title of old. He's not the same actor of those days like him or not.
Not long after the movie gets started you forget about the acting for the most part (unless your just there to find something to criticize the movie for).
The plan of salvation is laid out very clearly, which some have criticized, but was a very emotional moment for the movie as a whole.
"The message" is often why people go to movies, or how do you explain anything Michael Moore has made or "An Inconvenient Truth"? This message is one that anyone married or considering marriage should hear. A marriage is hard work sometimes; you won't always feel like being there, but it's worth the effort to get through those rough patches.
From personal experience, sometimes it seems like its all hard work and no easy times, but its always worth fighting through.
By the way, someone said a critics job is to give an objective review...no movie review is objective every one is filtered through the life experiences and subjective tastes of the reviewer. You can only be objective when there are hard baselines to guide your scoring and that doesn't exist in movies unless your talking about attendance numbers.
My wife and I saw the movie on Sunday, we had free passes, but while waiting in line someone asked us if we wanted free tickets. Their church had reserved a showing and was giving tickets away. Our church did the same thing last Thursday.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 8:38:22 PM
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We saw it Sunday afternoon. IMO it was a great movie. Both DH and I used the packets of tissues we brought along! Wasn't many dry eyes from what I could tell.
Some of the scenes were a little more emotional for us (at the beginning) because both of us dealt with abuse/yelling/anger issues in the past marriage or growing up - it was a little hard for us to watch at times without breaking down.
Cant recommend it enough - everyone should see it - married or not!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 9:56:52 PM
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We saw it Friday in a sold out theatre. I have to say even though there was "moments" of subpar acting it was no more than the mainstream movie I saw last week with my neice which had A list actors.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/30/2008 8:39:37 PM
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By the way, someone said a critics job is to give an objective review...no movie review is objective every one is filtered through the life experiences and subjective tastes of the reviewer. You can only be objective when there are hard baselines to guide your scoring and that doesn't exist in movies unless your talking about attendance numbers.
Very good point...
As far as the movie, I'm looking forward to seeing it this weekend.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/30/2008 9:53:48 PM
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I thought the movie was awesome. Some of the acting was not so good outside of Kirk Cameron, but all in all the movie was very well done and the message was one this country needs to hear. I will be buying the DVD also, I liked it that much.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/30/2008 11:38:06 PM
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This has to have Hollywood scratching its head again. A grass roots indie flick with volunteer actors (besides cameron) and a measly budget around $500,000 makes over 6 million at the box office opening weekend. The movie only had 800 screens. I believe that tops any movie that opened under a 1,000 screens this year. Looks like metro goldwyn is bumping the theater count up to a 1,000 this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised if it was still in the top 10 after its second weekend.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 11:21:53 AM
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This is strange. According to IMDB, the VAST majority of user reviews are positive, yet the movie only rates a 4.7 out of 10 with 516 votes cast.
That's not a very good rating at all given the number of glowing reviews in the user section.
In the External Reviews, there are 2 entries. One is simply a site with the film's press release, so that doesn't exactly qualify as a review. The other is a link to the NY Times review which, given their leanings, was surprisingly good. Hasn't anybody else reviewed this film? Even FACING THE GIANTS received it's share of mainline reviews....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 11:30:37 AM
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I saw something in USA Today, but I can't remember what day or anything. It was a review of sorts, but not listed as such.
Maybe I can find it later and post it.
The thing is...I don't think reviews are going to get people into the theater to see this particular movie. I think the reviews help others talk about it. People will come because someone who has already seen it told them about it. I've never trusted critics or newspaper reviews...ever. I've seen several movies the critics raved about and I'm thinking, "you're kidding me right? This is Oscar worthy?"
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 3:10:43 PM
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The thing is...I don't think reviews are going to get people into the theater to see this particular movie. I think the reviews help others talk about it. People will come because someone who has already seen it told them about it. I've never trusted critics or newspaper reviews...ever.
If I have 3 movies in front of me that I THINK I might want to see....I go to the reviews....the Dallas Morning News has a few really good movie critics/reviewers. And, so does our ABC-affiliate station (WFAA Channel 8, a guy named Gary Cogill)....if they hate it, then I likely will too.....same with a movie they just LOVE....
Definitely worth looking at before spending my $10 PER PERSON to go see a movie....and, let's me know if I would be better off just waiting for the DVD, and paying $1 to rent it at the RedBox....
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Hasn't anybody else reviewed this film? Even FACING THE GIANTS received it's share of mainline reviews....
Iam thinking that after "Facing the Giants", "mainline" reviewers are just going to "take a pass" on this movie....so, as to avoid having to give it a fair review....(and, be trounced upon those who LOVED it....and ready to call anyone who didn't like it "anti_Christian")
OR, sometimes, when movies are released, in "limited release", reviewers will wait until the movie is in a "wider release"....so, maybe a review this weekend....we'll see....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 3:15:43 PM
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Iam thinking that after "Facing the Giants", "mainline" reviewers are just going to "take a pass" on this movie....so, as to avoid having to give it a fair review....(and, be trounced upon those who LOVED it....and ready to call anyone who didn't like it "anti_Christian")
Since when do mainline reviewers give a rip what anyone else, much less a Christian thinks about their reviews.
Come on...you just can't stand that this movie may not be the monstrosity you thought it would be simply based on it being Christian and from the same FTG crew.
admit it...you know you wanna 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 3:35:53 PM
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admit it...you know you wanna
it's NOT that I WANT to...
it's just how movies (and, many other things) work.....there are some directors, actors or whatever that I just "avoid" due to their "style", "capabilities" or whatever the case may be.
In this case, I HAVE seen "Flywheel"...I HAVE seen "Facing the Giants"...
why am I such a horrible person to think that this isn't anything more (or better) than I have already seen?
I HOPE I do get pleasantly suprised when I see it.....ON DVD....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 3:38:31 PM
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it's just how movies (and, many other things) work.....there are some directors, actors or whatever that I just "avoid" due to their "style", "capabilities" or whatever the case may be.
yeah, I'm not much for romantic comedies myself
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 4:39:54 PM
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doinkdom
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 was that a kirk dig?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 6:43:07 PM
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In the External Reviews, there are 2 entries. One is simply a site with the film's press release, so that doesn't exactly qualify as a review. The other is a link to the NY Times review which, given their leanings, was surprisingly good. Hasn't anybody else reviewed this film? Even FACING THE GIANTS received it's share of mainline reviews....
Rotten tomatoes has a few more reviews. It's at 50%. Variety is another huge top critic that gave it a positive review. Very shocking. Here is the site. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10010214-fireproof/
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 10:45:05 PM
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Just came back from seeing it. Wasn't many people there, but I enjoyed the movie greatly. Good message. Everyone clapped at the end of the movie and a lot of sniffles.
I thought it was a big improvement to Facing the Giants.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 10:55:09 PM
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Created by the same people as 'Facing the Giants', I cannot WAIT to see Fireproof. Check it out........
FIREPROOF: Opening September 26!
At work, inside burning buildings, Capt. Caleb Holt lives by the old firefighter's adage: Never leave your partner behind. At home, in the cooling embers of his marriage, he lives by his own rules. Is it too late to fireproof his marriage? His job is to rescue others. Now Caleb Holt is about to face his toughest job ever ... rescuing his wife's heart.
On September 26, the next movie from Sherwood Pictures and Provident Films arrives in theaters across the nation: FIREPROOF. This action-packed love story has pre-release audiences laughing, crying, and on the edges of their seats as they are drawn into the world of a firefighter, his wife ... and a marriage worth rescuing.
FIREPROOF: What People Are Saying
"On top of a powerful message and the potential to change lives and marriages, this is one great movie!"
Bubba Cathy, Senior Vice President, Chick-fil-A
"FIREPROOF is going to do much more than entertain and stir hearts when it comes to movie theaters. This is a movie that will impact couples in a profound way for decades to come."
Dennis Rainey, President, FamilyLife
"FIREPROOF is a beautiful picture of how God can use one partner to completely turn a seemingly hopeless marriage around. What an encouragement!"
Rebekah Land, Ph.D., Marriage and Family Therapist
http://www.fireproofthemovie.com/
I'm looking forward to it!
I loved Facing the Giants. Great story. It was also cool that a good friend of mine went to the church where most of the actors came from, and she was able to fill us in on what went on behind the scenes. That's a neat story as well.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/1/2008 11:51:43 PM
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Surely the acting can't be worse than Kim Bassinger in Cellular. Blech.
I'm not sure if we'll see it in theatres or not, we'll see. I want to see it at some point. I have not seen their other movies.
I'm very curious how it'll do this weekend.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 8:48:38 AM
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I personally did not see that much bad acting in it, a lot less than facing the giants. The georgia accents are still there of course, but to me it adds a sense of realism too it.
I'm not an authority on what makes a good movie or anything, just like what I like, and I liked this movie a lot. Some action, laughter, tears, and a wonderful ending of reconciliation.
I also didn't feel the gospel was shoved down your throat, even though halfway through the movie it becomes very clear. I feel it was tastefully done.
They even dealt with internet pornography in a tasteful way, if that could be done.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 9:29:59 AM
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In this case, I HAVE seen "Flywheel"...I HAVE seen "Facing the Giants"...
why am I such a horrible person to think that this isn't anything more (or better) than I have already seen?
I HOPE I do get pleasantly suprised when I see it.....ON DVD....
Neither my DH or I liked Facing the Giants. I never got it why so many people praised this movie. We both felt the acting was horrible and the movie was unrealistic, so I understand why you have a hesitation after seeing both Flywheel & Facing the Giants. We never saw Flywheel, so I can't comment on that movie.
I was very moved by Fireproof and felt this movie was very realistic and the acting was "better"...not great, but definitely better..and some of the characters did really well. There were just a "few" that I considered really awful (for those that have seen it...I felt the doctor's acting was bad) I really "felt" the main characters in this movie and what they were going through in their marriage. It was well done. I do think Kirk Cameron was a great asset to this movie. Some here don't seem to like him and criticize him (but yet they haven't seen this movie), but he did an excellent job. I also heard on the radio this week, that Kirk actually had to audition for this part. They didn't just accept him for the role because he had acting experience. They were really looking for someone that would be believable and had a passion for this movie.
We paid the $9/ticket because we went with our SS class. We may have waited for the DVD otherwise, but I am really glad I saw this now instead of waiting. I'm actually looking forward to watching it again when it comes out on DVD.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 10/2/2008 12:29:08 PM
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I personally did not see that much bad acting in it, a lot less than facing the giants. The georgia accents are still there of course, but to me it adds a sense of realism too it.
That's cause we're so used to hearing "bad" southern accents by actors/actresses who are not from the south portraying people are are.
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