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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 1:12:25 PM
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rlj
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
Blaming Bush marks you as a conservative and an intellectually capable person who is capable of thinking things through on his/her own.
All TRUE liberals would make a list of all of the things that caused this problem than blame the president for all of the problems. Everyone knows that any TRUE liberal realizes the blame is Global Warming, Offshore Oil Drilling, Suppression of Women's Abortion Rights, Not Enough Government Money and Our Children's High Obesity Levels. Then you have to make a Dubya connection. It just isn't enough to simply "Blame Dubya" for something like this. You need to really pour it on thick so he gets blamed for as many things as possible and then build your way up to what it is you want to blame him for in the first place. By then you'll have created such a furor that everyone will have to agree with you.
I hope that helped. :D
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 1:21:53 PM
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Of course it was all right to go after Bill Clinton for eight years, I blame him for leaving no deficit and making George have to spend all that money to run it up again.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 4:44:02 PM
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Of course it was all right to go after Bill Clinton for eight years, I blame him for leaving no deficit and making George have to spend all that money to run it up again.
Ah yes more voodoo economics. the national debt more than doubled under Clinton and has not done that under Bush.
See HERE
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 5:53:54 PM
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The levees are in the process of being improved by the way.
The real question is, why weren't the fixed after three years, knowing the shape they were in? Where did all the money go that was allocated to repair of the levees?
Jindal is a bushie.
(I'm not a bushie or a bamanian) I don't like either one!
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 7:17:22 PM
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Of course it was all right to go after Bill Clinton for eight years, I blame him for leaving no deficit and making George have to spend all that money to run it up again.
Ah yes more voodoo economics. the national debt more than doubled under Clinton and has not done that under Bush.
See HERE
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I can't find anything in that article that supports your claim. One of the sources of that article:
Historical Debt Outstanding 1950-1999
Historical Debt Outstanding 2000-2007
From that source:
09/30/1992: $4.065 Trillion
09/30/2000: $5.674 Trillion
% Increase: 39.6%
09/30/2000: $5.674 Trillion
09/30/2007: $9.008 Trillion
% Increase: 58.8% and that's only through 2007. If you figure another $530B in additional debt this year (which is about average for the last few years), then the increase climbs to 68.1% The percentage increase in the national debt was 72% greater under Bush than it was under Clinton.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 9:59:17 PM
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but rather for his slow response to the aftermath.
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I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders,
The response was tempered by the politicians in the area who had a lot to cover up since they had wasted local and federal dollars targetted for the levis for either pure graft or welfare ( get me elected again ) programs.
The fault was NOT the federal level, it was solely the local stiffs.
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People disgust me putting him down, is mob rule.
no doubt.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 11:19:10 PM
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The army core of engineers said it would take atleast 11 years to fix them. I will try and find link.
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but rather for his slow response to the aftermath.
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I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders,
The response was tempered by the politicians in the area who had a lot to cover up since they had wasted local and federal dollars targetted for the levis for either pure graft or welfare ( get me elected again ) programs.
The fault was NOT the federal level, it was solely the local stiffs.
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People disgust me putting him down, is mob rule.
no doubt.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/1/2008 8:51:22 AM
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They will always find a way to blame Bush.
This time it will be "they should had this finished" or That should have been done long before" we still haven't received the proper funding, Bush's people mishandled the money, "the levee wasn't tall enough", etc.etc.etc...
Somehow,Someway he will get the blame.
Jindal has pretty much left any and all without excuse this time,but folks will still cry and whine and attempt to blame someone.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/1/2008 11:32:32 AM
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If things go well with the repsonse to Gustav, will he get the credit?
No.
It will all go to the new Guvnuh Jendal.
Deservedly so. It's been the Anti-BlanK0.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/1/2008 5:36:37 PM
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They will always find a way to blame Bush.
This time it will be "they should had this finished" or That should have been done long before" we still haven't received the proper funding, Bush's people mishandled the money, "the levee wasn't tall enough", etc.etc.etc...
Somehow,Someway he will get the blame.
Jindal has pretty much left any and all without excuse this time,but folks will still cry and whine and attempt to blame someone.
True!
The reason for it is because they dont ever seem to want to admit their own mistakes.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/1/2008 10:07:17 PM
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rlj
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They will always find a way to blame Bush.
This time it will be "they should had this finished" or That should have been done long before" we still haven't received the proper funding, Bush's people mishandled the money, "the levee wasn't tall enough", etc.etc.etc...
Somehow,Someway he will get the blame.
Jindal has pretty much left any and all without excuse this time,but folks will still cry and whine and attempt to blame someone.
Cog your effort to emulate a liberal bashing Bush for this is a little better than LJ's but you need to work on the problems more. A True Liberal will never mention as many things that could be related to the problem as you did unless of course it contains at least 4 of these things- abortion rights, obesity, smoking, oil drilling, education, poor health care, rich not paying enough taxes and that is all I can think of at the moment. A couple fewer things that it could be and at least four of the things I mentioned and you could pass for a liberal.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 3:15:46 AM
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cog41
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abortion rights, obesity, smoking, oil drilling, education, poor health care, rich not paying enough taxes and that is all I can think of at the moment
Okay if that's not enough. To address your issues Bush and Cheney have sent more jets to create more contrails in the atmosphere over the Atlantic and the jets are dispersing secret explosives to create Hanna,Ike and another yet to be named. These will take care of the abortion clinics,knock out the "ole" schools that survived the first few waves,knock out the rehab/workout clinic/health clinics. This will prevent coastal abortions,force kids to go to competitive schools, give the obese smokers more time to complain about not having someone to help them at a chance to workout/quit smoking so they'll eventually die, and the oil rigs will be destroyed so those rich oil companies can write them off and make even more money.
I'm sure I left something out but Wheeew weee.
Evil Bush & Cheney.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 9:10:37 AM
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Of course it was all right to go after Bill Clinton for eight years, I blame him for leaving no deficit and making George have to spend all that money to run it up again.
Clinton never actually had a surplus. I don't deny that he did attempt to completely balance the budget, but he still always had a deficit.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 10:54:26 AM
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When there is a surplus it means that the taxes were too high.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 12:20:09 PM
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rlj
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When there is a surplus it means that the taxes were too high.
All of this time on CW reading about how tax cuts make the deficit into a surplus and now someone is saying it's high taxes. : /
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 12:54:38 PM
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Of course it was all right to go after Bill Clinton for eight years, I blame him for leaving no deficit and making George have to spend all that money to run it up again.
Clinton never actually had a surplus. I don't deny that he did attempt to completely balance the budget, but he still always had a deficit.
Interesting how Congress is never responsible for the budget that they formulate and approve. 
I suppose it's just easier to speak in terms of which president was in office rather than congress. But I know what you mean.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 1:31:15 PM
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When there is a surplus it means that the taxes were too high.
All of this time on CW reading about how tax cuts make the deficit into a surplus and now someone is saying it's high taxes. : /
If the government has a SURPLUS they have taken too much in receipts. They still need to cut spending to further cut receipts. It's NOT the government's money, it's the taxpayers money.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/2/2008 2:02:38 PM
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rlj
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If the government has a SURPLUS they have taken too much in receipts. They still need to cut spending to further cut receipts. It's NOT the government's money, it's the taxpayers money.
True but man does it have a debt to pay down. : / Think of the tax rate if we weren't paying interest on 9+ trillion.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/3/2008 9:53:55 PM
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cog41
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At the same time, we should run our government in such a way that deficit spending would be against our laws.
You really think the US Congress would obey the law??
They violate it now using "implied powers" and operate under the president's "executive orders"..
I agree it should be law. But without enforcement , i mean strict enforcement they'll just go around it.
We Must Return to a true constitutional govt.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/3/2008 9:57:04 PM
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cog41
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Bush is not nor was he ever a conservative. He has only added to the problem of a too much govt. and too much spending.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/4/2008 4:30:54 PM
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Bush is a human being like everyone else, he might come from a very wealthy family, but that doesn`t exclude him from screwing up. if he went to war to get oil and get paid, then his greed has caused many deaths. Colin powell told Bush that there weren`t enough troops on the ground. however, he didn`t listen and went to iraq anyway. Colin Powell is a 4 star General.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 9/4/2008 10:30:39 PM
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cog41
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Bush is a human being like everyone else, he might come from a very wealthy family, but that doesn`t exclude him from screwing up. if he went to war to get oil and get paid, then his greed has caused many deaths. Colin powell told Bush that there weren`t enough troops on the ground. however, he didn`t listen and went to iraq anyway. Colin Powell is a 4 star General.
I'll not blame him for the war in Iraq. I don't think it was necessary. But they were determined to do it, and if so they should ahve waited.
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