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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 9/6/2008 8:11:59 PM
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the substandard science education in schools
Just for the record, Dan, it is not just science that is substandard. The entire curriculum has been politically compromised. There is no "good" curricula presented at any school now. Pick a state and compare it to the international level.
True. In general, I don't see many people being taught to think - just to memorize. That was certainly my experience in school.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 9/8/2008 2:43:55 PM
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Monday, September 8, 2008 1:10 PM
By: Phil Brennan
The global warming theory is going into the freezer, some climate experts say.
The first half of this year was the coolest in at least five years, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). And the global warming that has taken place during the past 30 years is over, says geologist Don J. Easterbrook, a professor emeritus at Western Washington University.
Easterbrook, who has written eight books and 150 journal publications, predicts that temperatures will cool between 2065 and 2100 and that global temperatures at the end of the century will be less than 1 degree cooler than now. This is in contrast to other theories saying that temperatures will warm by as much as 10 degrees by 2100.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 9/8/2008 2:45:07 PM
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Experts Scale Back Sea Level Rise Forecast
Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:33 PM
WASHINGTON - Worldwide sea levels may rise by about 2.6 to 6.6 feet by 2100 thanks to global warming, but dire predictions of larger increases seem unrealistic, U.S. scientists said on Thursday.
They examined scenarios for loss of ice from Greenland, Antarctica and the world's smaller glaciers and ice caps into the world's oceans, as well as ocean expansion simply due to rising water temperatures.
Their calculations yielded estimates for global sea level increases by the end of the century that are lower than many existing projections, but alarming nonetheless.
"If you look at the actual mechanics of how glaciers work, there doesn't seem to be a realistic way that we know about to get more than about 2 meters of sea level rise in the next century," Tad Pfeffer of the University of Colorado's Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research, whose study was published in the journal Science, said in a telephone interview.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 9/8/2008 2:49:13 PM
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Increase twice the size of Germany: "colder weather" to blame.
Data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) has indicated a dramatic increase in sea ice extent in the Arctic regions. The growth over the past year covers an area of 700,000 square kilometers: an amount twice the size the nation of Germany.
With the Arctic melting season over for 2008, ice cover will continue to increase until melting begins anew next spring.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 9/9/2008 7:34:34 AM
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the substandard science education in schools
Just for the record, Dan, it is not just science that is substandard. The entire curriculum has been politically compromised. There is no "good" curricula presented at any school now. Pick a state and compare it to the international level.
One of the problems are the plethora of whiny parents and students that think they should just be able to show up and get an A. My wife, a high school teacher, has more problems with the attitudes of the parents and students in her AP class than with the failing ones (other than their apathy).
But education is also more valued in other countries than here in the US and people here have more of a chance to get a good education. But unfortunately for the average lazy (I just wanna party!) high school or college student effort is required to get a good education. Aw darn does that mean I'll have to stop texting?
Back on topic: Picked up a copy of the 2009 Farmer's Almanac and they predict a period of global cooling (one scientist called it a mini-ice age) for the next 50 years based on solar data and the latest ocean temperature measurements.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 11/2/2008 5:03:10 PM
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MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data
Trendwatch
By Rick C. Hodgin
Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:55
Boston (MA) - Scientists at MIT have recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels. This is the first increase in ten years, and what baffles science is that this data contradicts theories stating man is the primary source of increase for this greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. However, since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, it is now believed this may be part of a natural cycle in mother nature - and not the direct result of man's contributions.
Methane - powerful greenhouse gas
The two lead authors of a paper published in this week's Geophysical Review Letters, Matthew Rigby and Ronald Prinn, the TEPCO Professor of Atmospheric Chemistry in MIT's Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Science, state that as a result of the increase, several million tons of new methane is present in the atmosphere.
Methane accounts for roughly one-fifth of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, though its effect is 25x greater than that of carbon dioxide. Its impact on global warming comes from the reflection of the sun's light back to the Earth (like a greenhouse). Methane is typically broken down in the atmosphere by the free radical hydroxyl (OH), a naturally occuring process. This atmospheric cleanser has been shown to adjust itself up and down periodically, and is believed to account for the lack of increases in methane levels in Earth's atmosphere over the past ten years despite notable simultaneous increases by man.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 11/3/2008 12:18:38 PM
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Why I recanted
'There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming'
David Evans, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, August 30, 2008
I devoted six years to carbon accounting when I built models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia's compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.
FullCAM models carbon flows in plants, mulch, debris, soils and agricultural products, using inputs such as climate data, plant physiology and satellite data. I've been following the global warming debate closely for years.
When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas; the old ice core data; no other suspects.
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 11/3/2008 12:40:37 PM
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Why I recanted
'There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming'
David Evans, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, August 30, 2008
I devoted six years to carbon accounting when I built models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia's compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.
FullCAM models carbon flows in plants, mulch, debris, soils and agricultural products, using inputs such as climate data, plant physiology and satellite data. I've been following the global warming debate closely for years.
When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas; the old ice core data; no other suspects.
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some important points from the article.
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The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it. ...
...The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6 degrees Celsius in the past year (to the temperature of 1980)
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RE: It's NOT Global Warming! - 11/3/2008 2:50:11 PM
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It's interesting that such a high level proponent has admitted the models don't match the reality.
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