|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
|
[Poll]
|
Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God?
|
| yes |
|
| no |
|
| sometimes, but not often |
|
Total Votes : 38
|
(last vote on : 10/21/2008 9:03:06 PM)
(Poll will run till: -- )
|
|
Login  | |
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 2:47:01 PM
|
|
|
CoeurdeLeon
Posts: 9501
Joined: 9/4/2005
From: Inside my head
Status: offline
|
Fire & brimstone? That's a safe bet.
Hurricanes? Not so much.
_____________________________
This morning I was awakened by the sound of purple
colliding with the fragrance of laughter.
Eutychus
10.13.08
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 2:50:18 PM
|
|
|
wintery
Posts: 1809
Joined: 2/1/2007
From: nw alabama
Status: offline
|
I voted "no".
I had googled for such thoughts on Gustav last week and found some calling it the "staff of God". I was just waiting to hear somebody start up on all the sins that were causing these hurricanes---and if they strike something "important"...not that everyone and everything in their lives are not important...but I mean something that gets media attention...there will be those who will provide reasons, which of course, will double as reasons for people to support whatever they believe _already_, whether there's a catastrophe or not.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 2:53:50 PM
|
|
|
bluestone
Posts: 2934
Joined: 2/25/2008
From: United States of America
Status: offline
|
excellent post, ta_mosquito.
_____________________________
I need Christ. Not something that resembles Christ.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 4:43:29 PM
|
|
|
bluestone
Posts: 2934
Joined: 2/25/2008
From: United States of America
Status: offline
|
I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior.
_____________________________
I need Christ. Not something that resembles Christ.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 6:24:46 PM
|
|
|
cow451
Posts: 3960
Joined: 5/6/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: bluestone
I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior.
It's those half-naked people playing in the water!
_____________________________
Wenn Sie so intelligent sind, warum Sie hier sind?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/2/2008 7:37:52 PM
|
|
|
Jhud
Posts: 7828
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Lake Wobegon
Status: offline
|
Anyone who is associated with New Orleans isn't really suprised when God gives it a good rinse.
_____________________________
Jack
It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first..
- Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/3/2008 12:58:17 PM
|
|
|
DanJames
Posts: 677
Joined: 12/13/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: cow451
quote:
ORIGINAL: bluestone
I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior.
It's those half-naked people playing in the water!
Man... those half naked people always ruin it for the rest of us...
I'm pretty sure that since there was no rain before the flood, there would have also been no hurricanes. Much of Mother Nature's less favorable traits (earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis) are thought to have some origin in the Flood-making process. Which is probably why God gave us the rainbow. That way Noah and Co. wouldn't think that they screwed up every time a rain cloud loomed on the horizon.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/3/2008 10:09:12 PM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4923
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: online
|
I voted sometimes, but not usually. When bad weather was a judgment in the Bible, God always gave an advance warning through a prophet. The people being judged didn't have to speculate on whether or not it was a judgment.
Can't think of any specific time when a hurricane was a judgment, though, but floods and hail mixed with lightning were both mentioned.
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/3/2008 10:13:49 PM
|
|
|
bluestone
Posts: 2934
Joined: 2/25/2008
From: United States of America
Status: offline
|
true.
I think that if God spoke in an audible voice, and said storms were on the way as correction for sinful living, most people would think it is a government conspiracy, or publicity stunt.
He probably zaps us in different ways these day.
_____________________________
I need Christ. Not something that resembles Christ.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/12/2008 9:03:35 PM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4923
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: online
|
Paulval,
Please email community@salemwebnetwork.com concerning the status of your account. Please allow time for a response.
Please do not post under this handle or any other until you have heard from the administrator.
Sincerely
Lisa Luper
Forums Volunteer
Faith Community Network
Please do not reply to this message within the Community.
Please do not send me PMs regarding this message as I am unable to discuss it further.
Please email Community@salemwebnetwork.com with questions, comments, or concerns. Please allow time for a response.
Posts which ignore this warning will be removed without warning and may result in other action in accordance with the Terms of Service.
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:45:25 AM
|
|
|
GHitch
Posts: 159
Joined: 7/6/2008
Status: offline
|
If bad weather were always punishment from heaven, the people around where I live must be very terrible sinners. Around here we have a saying that we only have 2 seasons - 6 months of winter and 6 months of bad weather.
But seriously speaking, the bible says that satan is the prince of the power of the air and we see in Job that he caused a tornado that wiped out Job's kids.
So why don't people blame the devil for deadly weather rather than God? God gets blamed for everything that goes 'wrong' in this world. And the devil likes it that way. God ain't guilty.
We even have those strange texts where it states that "the land vomits out it's inhabitants"
Lev 18:26 quote:
But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean), lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. Hmmm... Is there by chance some natural link between sin and natural catastrophe? Does nature itself sort of automatically go wrong the more virtue and justice go out a land? It would seem so.
_____________________________
"The notion that not only the biopolymer but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently nonsense of a high order." Sir F. Hoyle
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:45:34 AM
|
|
|
Veritas
Posts: 519
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
|
It rains on the just and the unjust.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 9:54:51 PM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 3143
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
Because God says so or because you say so, Veritas?
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 10:45:59 PM
|
|
|
Veritas
Posts: 519
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
|
The saying is from the Bible. I happen to believe it is true, but it is certainly not true because I say so. I'm not sure why you're asking. Do you doubt that it's true?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 10:55:57 PM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 3143
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
Why should an atheist believe some things in the Bible are true, but not others?
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:08:26 PM
|
|
|
Veritas
Posts: 519
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
Why should an atheist believe some things in the Bible are true, but not others?
What a strange question! Because some statements appear to be true and other not true. There are some things in the Bible I believe to be true and other things I do not believe to be true. If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:16:39 PM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 3143
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
What a strange answer! Appearances do not make statements true, Veritas. Personal beliefs do not make things in the Bible true. The illogical inconsistency of atheism is laid bare for all to see.
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:30:14 PM
|
|
|
Veritas
Posts: 519
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
What a strange answer! Appearances do not make statements true, Veritas. Personal beliefs do not make things in the Bible true.
I never said appearances make statements true, nor that personal beliefs make or do not make things true.
quote:
The illogical inconsistency of atheism is laid bare for all to see.
What illogical inconsistency? That I accept some statements of the Bible as true and not others? There is no inconsistency there.
You didn't answer my question: If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false?
ETA: Another question for you: What's with the hostile attitude? All I said was, "It rains on the just and the unjust"?
< Message edited by Veritas -- 9/13/2008 11:41:29 PM >
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/13/2008 11:42:51 PM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 3143
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
quote:
Because some statements appear to be true and other not true. There are some things in the Bible I believe to be true and other things I do not believe to be true. If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false?
Your post is clear, Veritas. Appearances and personal beliefs form the basis of your truth system. God's Word forms the basis of my system, so my perception of appearance or belief in whether a portion of a book is true or not is irrelevant to that determination. I realize you cannot see your inconsistency so we won't waste any more time discussing it.
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/14/2008 7:52:46 AM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4923
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: online
|
Okay, that's enough. Back to the topic, please.
Lisa Luper
Moderator
Please do not reply to this message within the Community.
Please email Community@salemwebnetwork.com with questions, comments, or concerns.
Please do not send me PMs regarding this message.
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? - 9/15/2008 2:58:01 PM
|
|
|
KaseyTom
Posts: 163
Joined: 9/12/2008
Status: offline
|
Natural disasters impact children and the elderly the most. They also disproportionally (by a huge margin) punish the poor over the wealthy.
To me this does not sound the actions of a just and loving God.
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
