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Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad?


Great idea, it helps girls finish school
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Bad idea, it may not discourage girls from having babies so young
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Not sure how I feel about it
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Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 4:35:11 PM   
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A high school my friend went to has free child care for the highschool students. Do you think this a good idea?

When I was in high school (97-01) we didn't have childcare in my school, but the daycare across the street offered free childcare to students of my school. It was kept very hush hush. If a girl got pregnant, her guidance counsellor would give her all the info on it. And, then she could finish high school with her baby in the daycare across the street.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 4:48:57 PM   
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My High School had a huge daycare. A few students had kids there, but most of it was filled with teachers' kids. I think it is a good idea so that girls can still finish school instead of dropping out. And as far as I knew it no one was rude to any of the girls with babies. I didn't know any of them personally though.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 5:05:50 PM   
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Since there's been a few threads lately on taking care of the children you have and avoiding welfare if possible, I'm all for helping a single mom to get a good education so that she can command decent wages. A high school diploma is only the first step, so I'm for this sort of practical help.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 5:27:48 PM   
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On high school in my city has a program for moms with babies that includes child care on site, but also special courses on parenting, budgeting, home skills etc. There is also individual supports and group things. It's very successful.
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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 5:29:01 PM   
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I think it's a good thing. Especially if the girls are finishing school. While I don't condone teen pregnancy and seriously discourage girls that may be headed in that direction, but I also have worked with Teen MOPS groups and those girls can use all the help they can get and so many of them would be able to function better and do better in school, knowing that if there was an emergency or they needed to be with their child that they were just down the hall. Teachers would likely be for this as well as their children could also be in these daycares and they would know that the pregnanat girls wouldn't have to drop out for lack of child care.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 5:53:04 PM   
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I think it's a great idea, but I think it should be at an alternative high where all teen moms in the city could come to a central location. That would save the district money, and the teen moms could provide peer support for one another to finish their education.

Actually, I know they were already doing it this way in 1991 in an Oklahoma school district, because I was a volunteer with a program that matched teen moms up with older, more experienced moms in a sort of Big Sister mentoring program (only the emphasis was on parenting babies).

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 6:09:13 PM   
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I think it's a good idea. I have a SIL who got pregnant when she was 17. She left school to take care of her baby. A few years later she was able to get her diploma, but I think it would have been better if she had the opportunity to stick it out in school and have the help with daycare, then have to struggle over the years.

I don't think access to daycare at high school affects teenagers decision to have sex and prevent pregnancy. I do wonder if it may play a part in their decision to raise the baby though.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 7:14:34 PM   
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I highly doubt that a teen who is having sex is really thinking about whether or not she gets pregnant. I don't think many of them have thought it though that well. I think it's more dealing with the reality of life as we now have it. When I was in high school (1979-1983) if a girl got pregnant she was removed from school and sent to a continuation school. It didn't stop girls from having sex then. We have to start dealing with core values as churches, individual believers and dare I say it schools and society.
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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 7:28:08 PM   
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I highly doubt that a teen who is having sex is really thinking about whether or not she gets pregnant.

You have got to be kidding. As I remember it, it was an ever-present fear, and I know I was not alone in that.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 8:00:12 PM   
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I do wonder if it may play a part in their decision to raise the baby though.

Great point. There was a girl in my school who confided in me who was pregnant. She was thinking of getting an abortion because she didn't think she'd be able to raise a baby and continue her future plans and be able to pay a babysitter. I knew about the daycare program (forgot how I learned about it), and I told her about it. She decided to keep her baby, and next year her baby ended up in the daycare across the street, and her and her BF would go over and care for him on break and lunch.

At the time, the school was keeping it hush hush I guess so it wouldn't encourage girls to have unprotected sex. But, really they should have let all the students know about it. I'm wondering how many girls at my school had an abortion because they didn't know they could get free childcare across the street.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 8:17:16 PM   
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*sigh* Doesn't anyone think of adoption anymore? Especially high school girls? I guess the only two choices left are keep or kill.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 8:38:19 PM   
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*sigh* Doesn't anyone think of adoption anymore? Especially high school girls? I guess the only two choices left are keep or kill.


That's because that's all society touts anymore...mostly kill. IMHO.

If a daycare at school is the difference between finishing school and not...then I'm for it

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 10:11:52 PM   
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*sigh* Doesn't anyone think of adoption anymore? Especially high school girls? I guess the only two choices left are keep or kill.


That's because that's all society touts anymore...mostly kill. IMHO.


It's not just society, Sandy. While Christians may not support abortion nearly as much, even here at CW, I've seen adoption derided as the "convenient" option, done out of a teenage mother's selfishness. So, IMO, Christians bear just as much blame for the negative image and feelings that most single mothers-to-be have of adoption.

But, I'm getting off topic, and I apologize. Just a pet peeve of mine.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/12/2008 11:03:16 PM   
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quote:

*sigh* Doesn't anyone think of adoption anymore? Especially high school girls? I guess the only two choices left are keep or kill


I can only speak for what I know, but in our family we have a few girls who became pregnant as teenagers, while in school. The only option was for them to keep the baby. That is just a cultural thing it seems. If your mother had you when she was a teenager, and her mother had you when she was a teenager, then being a teenager wouldn't be a reason to have your child adopted (or aborted.) Btw...I'm not saying it's right, but that is what I've observed of a lot of teenage mothers within my husbands culture.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/13/2008 7:45:54 AM   
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I think deciding not to abort would be so much easier for teen girls if society at large (especially the Christian community) didn't put such a negative spin on adoption.

Perhaps we should all be like certain native Eskimo groups where adoption is extremely casual and easy. A girl has a baby out of wedlock? No problem, she walks down the street to her infertile aunt's house and hands the baby over. No muss, no fuss.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/13/2008 11:45:53 AM   
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Great point, Ruth. I don't think it's really society putting a negative spin on adoption though, I think it's selfish individuals. Adoption seems to not be an option because it's better to keep the baby, or to never have known the baby.

My mom gave my brother up for adoption, but it was so heartbreaking to her. She does have piece of mind knowing that my brother was well cared for by a loving family though, rather than dead, or really broke with a hard life.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/13/2008 2:03:21 PM   
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I highly doubt that a teen who is having sex is really thinking about whether or not she gets pregnant.

You have got to be kidding. As I remember it, it was an ever-present fear, and I know I was not alone in that.


Maybe afterward, but when she decides to have sex? If it was that big of a fear maybe they wouldn't be having sex?
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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 11:33:56 AM   
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If on-site daycare in high schools means the difference between teenage mothers finishing their education and making something of themselves or dropping out and hitting a dead end in life, then I have to support the idea. Socially speaking, the cost to society (welfare, increased crime, etc.) would be far worse than what it would run to put a daycare in a high school.
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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 11:58:52 AM   
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After thinking on this, I am wondering why the girls don't just get their GED. If they really are going to finish high school, then one would assume they were going to have some post-secondary education, and getting there would be much quicker if you skip all the rigamarole and take the test. Besides, remaining in high school encourages high school behavior, which in general is not fitting for a mother. And high school classes take more time than college classes, keeping the mom away from her baby longer each day.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:00:24 PM   
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In our state, the GED costs around $60 and that might have something to do with it.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:03:23 PM   
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Going to public school costs more than that, though. On the first day alone you can spend that on various fees.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:05:39 PM   
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Going to public school costs more than that, though. On the first day alone you can spend that on various fees.

Oh I get that, but many girls have their babies mid-season so they're already "in" school.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:07:57 PM   
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A GED is for drop outs, and it doesn't look as good as a diploma for job interviews or college applications. Plus a teen girl may not want to completely give up high school life.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:08:49 PM   
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And go back to school the next week? No, they lose time. The only reason I can see to remain in high school as a parent is to take advantage of dual-enrollment and actually be at the college.

Just about every junior college has a GED program that will get the girls through their education much faster than your typical high school. And frequently there is funding to cover this.

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RE: Daycare in Highschools - Good or Bad? - 9/15/2008 12:10:37 PM   
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A GED is for drop outs, and it doesn't look as good as a diploma for job interviews or college applications. Plus a teen girl may not want to completely give up high school life.
I was a high school dropout, due to being a teen mom, and I have a GED. If you go to college immediately after you get your GED it really doesn't affect you that much. Certainly not more than prolonging the time it takes you to get a useful education.

And if she doesn't want to give up her 'high school life' then she should be giving up her baby. You can't be a kid and a parent at the same time.

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