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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 3:18:22 AM
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MrsLT
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Well I am in the military. I joined before I got married. Now I feel bad about not being able to be with my husband daily and do simple things like cook him dinner and sleep in the same bed with him every night. I know that the Bible has a role mapped out for women and I want to be a good wife. I don't want to be in the Navy anymore. My priority is my husband. What do I do???? I need someone to pray for a mirale for us, we've been married for 4 months and have seen each other for less than 2 weeks. I am dying inside without him.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 3:50:42 AM
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MrsLT,
I was watching Kenneth Copeland one time (he has the Believer's Voice of Victory show) and he said he was having pains in his elbows. He asked God to please take the pain away from his joints and suddenly a thought come into his head, "Ken, stop drinking coffee." He kept asking God to take away the pain in his elbows and he kept getting the same thought in his mind, "Ken, stop drinking coffee." Finally he threw up his arms and said "Ok, ok...I'll stop drinking coffee. Now will you please take the pain away from my joints, Lord?"
Well, after about three days of no coffee his elbow joints stopped hurting.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 6:10:16 AM
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MrsLT, how long is your military obligation for? Could you ask to be discharged?
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 1:28:07 PM
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You have posted your thoughts on what you believe Scripture says. Your interpretation is not authoritative.
No, but God is. And it was not an interpretation, it's right from the bible (concerning marriage). If you have a problem with God's Word then I suggest you take that up with God.
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No, what you said was not right from the Bible. Quoting Scripture would be "right from the Bible". What you said were your words and your understanding of what certain Scriptures were stating.
People who disagree with your understanding are not disagreeing with God, they are disagreeing with you.
Please refrain from these types of accusative combative statements. It does no good for discussion. Thus far everyone has been very polite and gracious toward each other.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 1:33:07 PM
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Well I am in the military. I joined before I got married. Now I feel bad about not being able to be with my husband daily and do simple things like cook him dinner and sleep in the same bed with him every night. I know that the Bible has a role mapped out for women and I want to be a good wife. I don't want to be in the Navy anymore. My priority is my husband. What do I do???? I need someone to pray for a mirale for us, we've been married for 4 months and have seen each other for less than 2 weeks. I am dying inside without him.
Perhaps, you could start a thread about this. You might be able to get discussion from others who have served in the military and been married while young. It is tough and I totally sympathize with you.
However, I don't recommend that you try to leave until your term is up. there are severe ramifications. And there are many things to gain from service in the far future. As a newlywed it is tough, but things will level out soon. What does your husband do.
let us know if you start a thread.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 3:09:28 PM
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I have four years left. I haven't asked about getting out. It's extremely hard to get out. I know there are benefits, the military is great if you want to be here. If not, its like prison. I am not really afraid to lose the benefits, its basically the same as welfare benefite. Free health care (Meicaid), free housing (Section 8) We could definantly survive without them. I wake up everyday praying that God would take over and handle this situation because I feel so powerless. He has blessed me with a great husband who keeps my spirits up but I worry about us. I'm not there after he gets home from work to cook dinner or give him physical affection. And it gets worse when we go on 6 and 7 month deployments. WHAT WAS I THINKING? I need your advice and prayers
P.S. Where would be a good place to move this thread?
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 3:34:33 PM
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Quoting Scripture would be "right from the Bible". What you said were your words and your understanding of what certain Scriptures were stating.
The verses I discussed were Ephesians 5: 22-31
and they state:
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands as to the Lord, 23 for the husband is head of the wife as also Christ is head of the church. He is the Savior of the body. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as also Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 to make her holy, cleansing her in the washing of water by the word. 27 He did this to present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but holy and blameless. 28 In the same way, husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hates his own flesh, but provides and cares for it, just as Christ does for the church, 30 since we are members of His body. 31 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.
and other scripture was:
Ephesians 5:33
33 Each of you, however, should love his wife as himself, and a wife should respect her husband.
My thoughts on equality and submission still stand in accordance with God's word.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 4:19:07 PM
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a Christian woman's role in the home is to take care of the family and the house. i believe that it is the husband's job to bring the money home and not the wife's. the wife is to be a servant (not slave) to her husband and children.
i see no problem in the woman doing all the housework - even though it's nice when hubbies help out around the house. i'm thankful my husband does that.
dinner should be on the table when he gets home from work, and the wife should look fresh and ready to be attentive to her husband.
She should be in prayer everyday for her family.
a woman is to submit to her husband. he is the head of the house.
i don't believe woman should be working outside of the home once they have children. in this day and age people feel both husband and wife have to in order to make enough money. if a woman can help it at all, they should be at home taking care of the children. even if you have to give up that second car, or move to a smaller, less expensive house, maybe we don't need a pool etc.....
that's just my opinion. i love being a stay-at-home mom, being a servant to my husband, without being a doormat. i love my husband, and he takes such good care of me.
~ Erika
Question -- what do you do when you are in my case and I am the one that can bring the money into the household...I'm the one with the college degree -- not my husband, and I am the one who is almost done with my masters...we have children, but we have always had children involved in our marraige because of his daughter from a previous marraige...so am I supposed to stop my earning potential and come home all the time? Just curious about that...
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 5:38:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: heatherer5
a Christian woman's role in the home is to take care of the family and the house. i believe that it is the husband's job to bring the money home and not the wife's. the wife is to be a servant (not slave) to her husband and children.
i see no problem in the woman doing all the housework - even though it's nice when hubbies help out around the house. i'm thankful my husband does that.
dinner should be on the table when he gets home from work, and the wife should look fresh and ready to be attentive to her husband.
She should be in prayer everyday for her family.
a woman is to submit to her husband. he is the head of the house.
i don't believe woman should be working outside of the home once they have children. in this day and age people feel both husband and wife have to in order to make enough money. if a woman can help it at all, they should be at home taking care of the children. even if you have to give up that second car, or move to a smaller, less expensive house, maybe we don't need a pool etc.....
that's just my opinion. i love being a stay-at-home mom, being a servant to my husband, without being a doormat. i love my husband, and he takes such good care of me.
~ Erika
Question -- what do you do when you are in my case and I am the one that can bring the money into the household...I'm the one with the college degree -- not my husband, and I am the one who is almost done with my masters...we have children, but we have always had children involved in our marraige because of his daughter from a previous marraige...so am I supposed to stop my earning potential and come home all the time? Just curious about that...
I must have missed the above quote Smiley. Thanks for bringing it up.
These things are fine if that is the organization that the married couple chooses for themselves. But the ideas that a wife having dinner on the table at a set time, and the wife's role is servant, wife cannot work outside of home, etc. is part of Scripture, just isn't so. God does not legislate marital organization. Plus, in the time that the Bible was written, pretty much everyone worked at home including the husband so the idea of working "outside of the home", just never occurred to them. This traditional picture is a cultural picture that varies a bit from Nation to Nation.
Both husband and wife should indeed serve one another, love one another sacrificially, take care of each other, support one another and encourage each other to be all they can be as a human being. How that looks in each family will vary as much as individuals vary. Some will be quite content with the more traditional model. Some will have many variations on that.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 5:53:39 PM
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Well, Oppsmartin, I am about a half a year from finishing my MBA. I am doing it online because my family didn't want to transplant themselves to another area of the country and I didn't like the local college. Right now we are doing what I call tag team parenting. I work part time in the evenings and he works full time during the day. Because we don't like the public school system, I also homeschool my first grader. My step daughter is in public school at this time because she will not listen to me and her mother has threatened to take us to court for custody hearings if we were to do that (dh has full custody at this time).
However, I am feeling that I need to be out of the house more and more. I'm not one of those women that are happy being the stay at home mother and cleaning up after everyone and doing the laundry. My husband states that he figured that I would be going back to full time soon because of one main thing --when I started working part time and doing the tag team parenting I was bored within a month...I started working on my masters. Sorry, I am not one of those women who are able to get my fulfillment and self worth from my husband and family. I have to have it outside my home. I don't have a problem with that.
Besides, we have determined that with me working outside the home, we would be able to put BOTH girls in a very good private Christian School and still have plenty of money left over because again, my chosen field is not a cheap field...
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 6:15:09 PM
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Well, Oppsmartin, I am about a half a year from finishing my MBA. I am doing it online because my family didn't want to transplant themselves to another area of the country and I didn't like the local college. Right now we are doing what I call tag team parenting. I work part time in the evenings and he works full time during the day. Because we don't like the public school system, I also homeschool my first grader. My step daughter is in public school at this time because she will not listen to me and her mother has threatened to take us to court for custody hearings if we were to do that (dh has full custody at this time).
However, I am feeling that I need to be out of the house more and more. I'm not one of those women that are happy being the stay at home mother and cleaning up after everyone and doing the laundry. My husband states that he figured that I would be going back to full time soon because of one main thing --when I started working part time and doing the tag team parenting I was bored within a month...I started working on my masters. Sorry, I am not one of those women who are able to get my fulfillment and self worth from my husband and family. I have to have it outside my home. I don't have a problem with that.
Besides, we have determined that with me working outside the home, we would be able to put BOTH girls in a very good private Christian School and still have plenty of money left over because again, my chosen field is not a cheap field...
It is great to see a couple so united that they support each other in fulfilling their goals and dreams. I applaud you on working amicably with your step daughter's mother. Not an easy task.
God is an incredibly creative God. He has created a huge variety of personalities in human men and women.
I hope that you will be able to figure out how to continue homeschooling your first grader until you find a school that meets your criteria. It is difficult to find suitable schools these days.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 6:19:10 PM
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I have four years left. I haven't asked about getting out. It's extremely hard to get out. I know there are benefits, the military is great if you want to be here. If not, its like prison. I am not really afraid to lose the benefits, its basically the same as welfare benefite. Free health care (Meicaid), free housing (Section 8) We could definantly survive without them. I wake up everyday praying that God would take over and handle this situation because I feel so powerless. He has blessed me with a great husband who keeps my spirits up but I worry about us. I'm not there after he gets home from work to cook dinner or give him physical affection. And it gets worse when we go on 6 and 7 month deployments. WHAT WAS I THINKING? I need your advice and prayers
P.S. Where would be a good place to move this thread?
There are even more benefits than that. The health benefits last a life time and are excellent in most cases. There are tons of other freebies the government extends towards it's military. And it's such a short stint for what you get in return.
Perhaps, the marriage folder would be a good place to discuss your particulars. put something in the title about the branch of service you are in, did you say Navy?
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 6:28:47 PM
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Quoting Scripture would be "right from the Bible". What you said were your words and your understanding of what certain Scriptures were stating.
The verses I discussed were Ephesians 5: 22-31
and other scripture was:
Ephesians 5:33
My thoughts on equality and submission still stand in accordance with God's word.
Likely everyone in this thread is well acquainted with these Scriptures. And BTW verse 22 is part of verse 21, can't be separated. but really the section starts in verse 1.
1Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children 2and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
15Be very careful, then, how you live–not as unwise but as wise, 16making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is. 18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. 19
21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
These are important qualifiers. You will notice that ALL are admonished to love sacrifically (vs. 1-2) and ALL are admonished to submit one to another (vs. 21). No one is left out including husbands, wives, children, parents, masters and slaves. ALL are to be submissive in attitude showing respect, honor, preferring one another in humility (1 Pe. 5:5)
Now Paul in his wisdom did something in Greek that we miss in English. In order to highlight and make obvious that all of these are something that includes all areas of our daily lives, when he went on in what we now call verse 22 (remember there is no punctuation or verses in the original) Paul left the verb upotassomai out of verse 22, which means that it is supplied from the preceding verse 21.
What we also miss historically is that these statements of relationship etiquette are radically different from what was the average patriarchal attitude of the day.
So, in one breath Paul says that ALL are to be submissive one to another including the wife to her husband. This carries the attitude of mutual submission, mutual honor, mutual respect (see Pauls concluding statement in vs. 33) forward into interpersonal relationships starting with the wives. It also carries with it all his admonitions from vs. 1 to vs. 21.
Starting with the wives Paul admonishes the attitude of mutual submission/respect, the attitude of honoring husband as “kephale” as Christ is “kephale” and savior/rescuer. And admonishing that these attitudes should be reflected in everything. Why start with the wives and why pointing out these aspects? Probably because that was an area they were weak in.
Continuing on with the husbands is the same carrying forward of both vs. 21 and all that preceeds it. It is as if Paul says:
Love one another Sacrificially as Christ did. Be filled with the Spirit. Be submissively honoring and respectful to all..... wives to husbands, husbands with love. and so on.
To the husbands Paul is delienating different aspects of submitting one to another emphasizing sacrificial love. In the same way that Christ gave His life so that He might have a “bride”, so husbands must give themselves to their wives so that they might honor their brides, honoring them as if they were part of themselves - their own body.
The conclusion of such blessed attitudes of submission, respect, honor, self sacrificing love is that a mystery happens, two become as one. This is the desire of Christ and His Church/Bride and should be the desire of husbands and wives with one another.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 8:06:39 PM
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"There are even more benefits than that. The health benefits last a life time and are excellent in most cases. There are tons of other freebies the government extends towards it's military. And it's such a short stint for what you get in return.
Perhaps, the marriage folder would be a good place to discuss your particulars. put something in the title about the branch of service you are in, did you say Navy? "
I am aware that there are benefits, remember I am in the Navy. As for the freebies, well let's just say that nothing is free. What could a company offer you that would be worth neglecting your household. About the medical benefits, if it's not life threatning they pump you with Motrin and send you on your way. I understand that it is beneficial for some but I have a husband and I want children, it's not worth the benefits. It's simply not for me.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 8:40:34 PM
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People who disagree with your understanding are not disagreeing with God, they are disagreeing with you.
Please refrain from these types of accusative combative statements. It does no good for discussion. Thus far everyone has been very polite and gracious toward each other.
They only seem that way because they differ from yours. And there was nothing accusative or cambative in anything I said. I was simply replying to your post.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 9:16:21 PM
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"There are even more benefits than that. The health benefits last a life time and are excellent in most cases. There are tons of other freebies the government extends towards it's military. And it's such a short stint for what you get in return.
Perhaps, the marriage folder would be a good place to discuss your particulars. put something in the title about the branch of service you are in, did you say Navy? "
I am aware that there are benefits, remember I am in the Navy. As for the freebies, well let's just say that nothing is free. What could a company offer you that would be worth neglecting your household. About the medical benefits, if it's not life threatning they pump you with Motrin and send you on your way. I understand that it is beneficial for some but I have a husband and I want children, it's not worth the benefits. It's simply not for me.
Well, it is you and your husband's decision. But think carefully. Research clearly your options. Plans are better establised with the counsel of many. You do not want to make a hasty decision that years later you will kick yourself for. And though you have not said your age, I am guessing that you have plenty of years to have children in.
My prayers are with you and your husband.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 10:52:31 PM
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Ephesians 5 verses 1-21 have historically been bound in one thought: "be imitators of God". While Ephesians 5 verses 22-33 have similarly been bound in one thought: "marriage like christ and the church".
In that first section, we have a clear distinction. That section is clearly addressed to all believers and is specifically addressing how we are to live in relation to God as being an imitator of God. So verses 1-21 describe our personal walk with Christ.
Now some people would assert that because verse 22 does not contain a main verb, that it is to be included as part of the previous thought and connected to verse 21. However, this connection is not found because it requires the participle uJpotassovmenoi (Jupotassomenoi, "submitting") in verse 21 to be the main verb for the section that follows verse 21.
Yet this participle is connected back to verse 18 as a "participle of result". In verse 18 we have the command to be filled with the spirit. Verse 21 then forms the link between the command and the result, with the Greek participle completing the thought in verse 21.
Now the switch from verse 21 to 22 is a change in subject, but not a complete break in thought. Many translator's notes provide the argument and basis to show that what I have stated is true. So completing the thought starting in verse 22, we are now receiving instructions that parallel the previous section. As the first section was about our submission to God, the second section is about the comparison of Christ and the church to the marriage relationship of the husband to the wife.
So the entire thought of submission continues unabated. The subject and specific instruction, which had been individuals submitting to God, now shift to the wife submitting to the husband in authority. Please this is not an equality argument, it is an authority argument.
So the second part of Ephesians 5 is clearly a description of the hierarchy of authority within the marriage using Christ and the church as the model.
If we are to do this correctly, and we let scripture interpret scripture, we must now include 1 Peter 3:1-7. Those verses are clear instruction for wives and husbands. In 1 Peter 3:1, we get immediately into the wife is in submission to the husband in authority.
Now to be certain that this is not itself misinterpreted, all we need do is look at 1 Peter 2:13-25, which is the discussion of submission to authorities. The meanings of the verbs used in verse 13 and 18 of 1 Peter 2 are clear in their context and the rendering of "be subject" comes directly from their use.
So then, in 1 Peter 3:1-7, we have a continuation of a similar thought on submission, but this time, it is concerning marriage. Again the verb use of "be subject" is clear in the context.
Now if this was all we had, then we could say that 1 Peter might need to be interpreted from an alternate, i.e. incorrect, view of Ephesians 5. However we have something else that amplifies this notion in 1 Corinthians 11:3 which is:
But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
The same Greek words translated "man" and "woman" can mean, as determined by context, "husband" and "wife" respectively. Such an approach is followed by the Amplified, ESV, NAB, TEV, NRSV, and NLT (with some variations). The NASB, NIV, and KJV use the more general "man" and "woman" without the contextual qualification of "husband" and "wife".
I personally, believe the context is the husband and wife and do not assert the general case of any "man" and any "woman".
Now let's add one more to the proof text in interpreting this verb dilemma in Ephesians 5:22. So turn to Genesis 3:16 which says:
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
So now we are left with a single verb to clarify in Ephesians 5:21, which you have attempted to use as a connection between 5:21 and 5:22. However, I think the evidence from the given passages of scripture, that point clearly to the hierarchical relationship, significantly point to the "traditional" rendering of the "section break" between 5:21 and 5:22. This now leaves no way to connect 5:22 back to 5:21 which is be subject to one another.
Clearly, and I won't go into the detail here, we are to be subject one to another in our walk with Christ so that we may be perfected by each other, as iron sharpens iron. This is broadly applicable to all believers not just husbands and wives.
But, in 5:22, the wife subject to the husband, would not even make sense if 5:21 were to prevail. It should not have even been included if it was intended to say "the wife and the husband are subject to one another with no hierarchy". Indeed it would be redundant as we already received instruction to be subject to one another. So clearly, there is a change in context to include this specificity.
So then, as scripture interprets scripture, Ephesians 5:22 echoes the hierarchy of authority given in Genesis 3:16, 1 Peter 3:1-7, and 1 Corinthians 11:3.
The conclusion of such blessed attitudes of submission, respect, honor, and self sacrificing love is that a mystery happens, two become as one - as Christ and the church are one. This is the desire of Christ and His Church/Bride and should be the desire of husbands and wives with one another. And as our desire is to submit to Christ, so should the desire of the wife be to submit to her husband. This is the model. This is the clear instruction of scripture.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 11:04:03 PM
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I kind of find it interesting that those who are "against" submission from wives always ONLY refer to the Ephesians passages
what about these:
Colossians 3:18,19:
You wives must submit to your husbands, as is fitting for those who belong to the Lord.
And you husbands must love your wives and never treat them harshly.
What about Ephesians 5:24?
But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
Sounds authoritative to me. Also implies that wives OUGHT to, not that they will, or that they HAVE to. But SHOULD. hmm
I Peter 3: 1,2
In the same way, you wives must accept the authority of your husbands, even those who refuse to accept the Good News. Your godly lives will speak to them better than any words. They will be won over by watching your pure, godly behavior.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/24/2005 11:42:31 PM
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W.O.F., excellent point. Amen.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/25/2005 4:12:52 AM
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I kind of find it interesting that those who are "against" submission from wives always ONLY refer to the Ephesians passages
there is no one here who is against submission of the wives to husbands. But there are some who note that verse 21 shows that both husband AND wife are included as believers who are to submit one to another in the fear of the Lord. Pauls pointing out to wives that this submission does not stop at the door to their home and pointing out to husbands that sacrificial love does not stop at the door to their home, does not negate the commands are to all believers as well.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/25/2005 6:12:05 AM
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Just a question this thread has got me thinking on. If, in biblical times a woman had wanted to work outside the home what would she have done? She would not have been trained or skilled in anything (except perhaps business and clothmaking like the Prov 31 woman)
It doesn't seem to me that the opportunity existed in that culture for a woman to do much else anyway. Though of course we have Ruth who worked in the fields - so there must have been lots of menial tasks. Does this mean good Christian women were to refuse this type of work, even if thier families were poor. That idea just doesn't sit right with me.
I am interested to hear others response to this thought.
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RE: Women's role in the Home - One Stop Thread - 9/25/2005 10:14:46 AM
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Of course biblical women worked, and most non-field worker jobs were home-based jobs anyways (like Paul's tent-making job), so the Proverbs 31 woman was simply a typical worker of the time.
The verses about women being keepers of the home have already been posted many times, so I won't repeat, but while women certainly do have responsibilities to their homes and families (as do men), I don't see any verses in the Bible that I would interepret to mean that women cannot work outside the home at all.
From what I read in the Bible, if work needed to get done, it got done. Ruth is an excellent example. I highly doubt that women of the New Testatement would accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour, then started refusing to do any work outside of what could be done in a home, especially if the family was poor and their children needed the benifits of their labor. The very idea just seems silly - to me anyways.
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