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RE: Perry Stone - 9/22/2008 7:02:57 PM
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PatHarris
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That's not what the statement above says.
"I ask you to forgive me for these sins. I now ask Jesus to come into my heart. Be my Savior. Be my Lord. Be my soon coming King. I will do my best to obey your teachings as recorded in the Bible."
SOURCE: http://www.jesussaves.cc/prayer_salvation.htm
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Because of your views of Perry Stone (which I'm not a fan of either) you views are being slanted that whatever he says is wrong.
No, my view is not a matter of opinion but what his website states and what the Word of God says.
I'm well versed in what the Bible says, it's still only your own personal interpretation of what the statement says.
I see nothing Biblically wrong with it.
I'm done...
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/22/2008 8:37:01 PM
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Scripture study in itself does not bring life; it's on when it is integrated into one's life that change is produced.
John 5:39 - 40 (HCSB) 39You pore over the Scriptures£ because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me. 40And you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/23/2008 8:15:01 AM
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earthless
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ORIGINAL: PatHarris
That's not what the statement above says.
"I ask you to forgive me for these sins. I now ask Jesus to come into my heart. Be my Savior. Be my Lord. Be my soon coming King. I will do my best to obey your teachings as recorded in the Bible."
SOURCE: http://www.jesussaves.cc/prayer_salvation.htm
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Because of your views of Perry Stone (which I'm not a fan of either) you views are being slanted that whatever he says is wrong.
No, my view is not a matter of opinion but what his website states and what the Word of God says.
I'm well versed in what the Bible says, it's still only your own personal interpretation of what the statement says.
I see nothing Biblically wrong with it.
I'm done...
And I will never be done until I am no longer breathing....
The statement is incorrect, end of story. We are not saved by good works nor do we "keep" our salvation because of good works. That is an insult, a slap in the face to Jesus and what He did.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/23/2008 10:17:57 AM
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And I will never be done until I am no longer breathing....
The statement is incorrect, end of story. We are not saved by good works nor do we "keep" our salvation because of good works. That is an insult, a slap in the face to Jesus and what He did.
Not to defend Perry. Also I really don't believe in a sinners pray for salvation. But just because he has someone to repeat the those words and the end. I read it has asking God to help them to be good. What is wrong with that? He doesn't write this " I will do my best to obey your teachings as recorded in the bible". then if he added; For if I don't, I know Lord you will not have me enter. If he would have written that then I can see a big flare up over it. But he didn't write that so you have added more to it than meets the eye.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/23/2008 12:20:36 PM
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I have explained why it is and can be problematic.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/24/2008 1:57:14 PM
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Astronomical signs prove 100% that the ending of the 7-year tribulation period is in the fall of 2015! Therefore, the beginning of the 7-year tribulation period and the rapture starts in the fall of 2008!
Come Tuesday, I'm out a here!
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If it is not 2008/09 1dsz5e4.gif, the next window for Jesus return is for: 2015/16 sad.gif (The next Sabbatical Year)!
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/24/2008 3:27:17 PM
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How do people continue to take such a one as him seriously when things like the above post happen?
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/25/2008 1:48:37 PM
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Don't forget, I think Monday is the last day to have your
ticket validated.
Those left behind can meet us Tuesday night at 6:30.
We'll be discussing why you missed it, or, why this was
such utter nonsense. lol.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/25/2008 2:24:15 PM
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I can not believe he went this far to have, what is written in scriptures. Then takes a lot of stuff which is very number orientated. To make everything come to pass by Tuesday Sept 29. So it's Tuesday in which Jesus Christ will come and get us for eternity. Did Perry tell Paula that Oct 9 was not on God's calendar? Because she is saying that God told her that there was going to be a great outpouring. Because of all the people giving to her cause. God is going to bring forth great wealth. Someone isn't telling us the whole story.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/25/2008 2:26:42 PM
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Just another thought I wonder if Jesus decides not to make the return on Tuesday. What is Perry's answer going to be for. It appears he may have egg on his face it this falls through.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/25/2008 3:38:50 PM
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Just another thought I wonder if Jesus decides not to make the return on Tuesday. What is Perry's answer going to be for. It appears he may have egg on his face it this falls through.
What do you mean, "Jesus may not make the return on Tuesday?" I just ran up all my credit cards, took out a second mortgage and am leaving in half an hour for the cruise of a lifetime. Now you're telling me I'm going to be stuck here, paying for all this stuff? Think I'll just have to sue that Stone fellow! 
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/25/2008 4:12:30 PM
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That's okay Peter, we'll get the government to bail you out. LOL.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/26/2008 10:31:32 AM
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That's okay Peter, we'll get the government to bail you out. LOL.
Yes this is true. I just this week got on my voice mail that goverment would give me a grant so that I could pay my bills. And to top it off withit I wouldn't have to pay it back. Serious! 
By the way I noticed that I wrote down Tuesday when it is Monday when we will fly away. My mistake for having my days and dates all messed up.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/26/2008 1:20:44 PM
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My mistake for having my days and dates all messed up.
In that case, we can all join the madness of Perry and his circle of friends. LOL.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/29/2008 10:09:54 AM
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Say are any of you out there? By the way did he have it down to the time of the day in which this would happen? You know like 6:00 p.m. EDT.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/29/2008 11:33:04 AM
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Say are any of you out there? By the way did he have it down to the time of the day in which this would happen? You know like 6:00 p.m. EDT.
LOL.
I presume it will be Israeli time.
Is that 8 hours ago or 8 hours from now.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/29/2008 11:34:35 AM
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Well, we're still here. haha.
Don't forget, we are having the "Left Behind" meeting tomorrow night
at 6:30 P.M. Central Time Zone.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/29/2008 11:41:40 AM
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3. Experts are predicting a “complete global economic collapse by the 1st week of October 2008”! This is a complete economic collapse (both stock market and banking collapse) that will start the 7-year tribulation period.
From post #31 LINK
For those who are into the conspiracy thinking, which there has always
been a conspiracy of ruling the world, this can be self-fulfilling prophecy.
The Euro isn't doing too well and the Dollar isn't doing too well.
The economy is controlled by manipulation. It can go either way at
any time.
But, here we are nearing the first week in October, 2008.
Time will tell.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/29/2008 12:09:53 PM
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3. Experts are predicting a “complete global economic collapse by the 1st week of October 2008”! This is a complete economic collapse (both stock market and banking collapse) that will start the 7-year tribulation period.
From post #31 LINK
For those who are into the conspiracy thinking, which there has always
been a conspiracy of ruling the world, this can be self-fulfilling prophecy.
The Euro isn't doing too well and the Dollar isn't doing too well.
The economy is controlled by manipulation. It can go either way at
any time.
But, here we are nearing the first week in October, 2008.
Time will tell.
Yes it will. Makes you wonder when? What if those dear people in congress of the USA. Would not have printed up more money, to what they; say will save the economy
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/30/2008 12:39:44 PM
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JUST A REMINDER:
"Left Behind Meeting"
Tonight at 6:30 P.M. CTZ
You may want to call ahead to make sure we're still here. lol.
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/30/2008 12:47:08 PM
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JUST A REMINDER:
"Left Behind Meeting"
Tonight at 6:30 P.M. CTZ
You may want to call ahead to make sure we're still here. lol.
Ala Heavens Gate?
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RE: Perry Stone - 9/30/2008 12:50:53 PM
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JUST A REMINDER:
"Left Behind Meeting"
Tonight at 6:30 P.M. CTZ
You may want to call ahead to make sure we're still here. lol.
Ala Heavens Gate?
LOL. Hiway 412, Oklahoma [God's Country]
Or, is that Green Country?
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RE: Perry Stone - 10/1/2008 10:19:37 AM
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Now I get it I didn't check to see if there was going to be any great thunder storms on the horizion these past days.
On one of his speechs that was on you tube he said that when Jesus was on the cross and stretched out is arms there. Was a lighting bolt that went through everyone in the world that day. I need to know what he got his information from, besides inside his mind.
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RE: Perry Stone - 10/1/2008 11:20:54 AM
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So who is still here other than mcleod and me?
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RE: Perry Stone - 10/1/2008 11:26:24 AM
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Lapidoth
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So who is still here other than mcleod and me?
LOL.
I called my workplace and told them I couldn't come
to work because I was "raptured" out of here.
Well, it didn't work. lol.
We had a good "Left Behind" Service last night.
Well, maybe not, we just continued our study in
Galatians. But it was still good. Great, in fact.
This should lay all this to rest, but they will just
pick another date and time.
$$$$$$$$$$ just keeps on a ticking.
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