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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 7:46:29 PM   
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Thank you both very much for the info, I can see myself sitting at the Strong's looking up stuff for many hours. Very interesting!!!

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:04:26 PM   
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Those differences in translation depend on whether that particular version was translated from the Critical Text or the Textus Receptus.

So you're saying that the source used for translation is different?

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:07:43 PM   
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I use e-Sword, which shows a number of different versions,


I loooove e-Sword. It has helped me out so much (mine's pretty hooked up.)


I have a question for you ladies:

Do you/have you read the apocrypha? I had never heard of it until I took a religion course in university and the professor insisted we get a Bible with it (though I didn't.) One of my versions on e-Sword has it, but I haven't taken a look at it.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:10:18 PM   
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Info on Critical Text

Info on Textus Receptus

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:26:56 PM   
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I have a question for you ladies:

Do you/have you read the apocrypha? I had never heard of it until I took a religion course in university and the professor insisted we get a Bible with it (though I didn't.) One of my versions on e-Sword has it, but I haven't taken a look at it.


No. I've never read the apocrypha. Since I'm not a Catholic my Bible doesn't have those books in it.

The Old Testament Apocrypha

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:38:48 PM   
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I've never read the apocrypha, although I've always wondered about it.
That article was interesting Clag, thanks.
Why do Catholics (and Greek Orthodox, and other denominations) include the Apocrypha in with the Bible?

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/9/2008 11:47:13 PM   
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More info on the Apocrypha

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 12:07:02 AM   
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I have not read them, but I might someday. Not as scripture, of course.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 12:11:05 AM   
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I read them, they were included in my Bible curriculum in 8th and 9th grades.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 8:55:41 AM   
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Ryanne, what did you think of them? I'll probably read them one day, like Crystal not as scripture but just to read.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 9:41:13 AM   
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Those differences in translation depend on whether that particular version was translated from the Critical Text or the Textus Receptus.

So you're saying that the source used for translation is different?


Yes. Thanks for posting the links, Clag.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 10:29:28 AM   
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Lexie, I've read some of the apocryphal books. I especially liked reading the book of Maccabees because it gives you an idea of the times that Jesus was born into, and the Hanukkah celebration is explained in that book.

It is pretty interesting reading, but not authoritative like the rest of the accepted books of the Bible.
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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 11:58:29 AM   
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Ryanne, what did you think of them? I'll probably read them one day, like Crystal not as scripture but just to read.


They were definitely interesting, we didn't learn them as part of scripture I think it was more just to make us well rounded, lol. There are definitely things in them that I would consider not of God, or unbiblical.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 12:57:03 PM   
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The denominations that include them in their Bibles don't consider them to have the same weight as the other books.
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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 3:52:33 PM   
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The denominations that include them in their Bibles don't consider them to have the same weight as the other books.



That's interesting...I thought that the Catholic church placed the OT Apocryphal books on the same level as the cannonized Bible and "church tradition"... but I could be wrong, since I'm not Catholic.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 3:54:55 PM   
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Those differences in translation depend on whether that particular version was translated from the Critical Text or the Textus Receptus.

So you're saying that the source used for translation is different?


Yes. Thanks for posting the links, Clag.


Sure thing!

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 5:06:57 PM   
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Ryanne, what did you think of them? I'll probably read them one day, like Crystal not as scripture but just to read.


They were definitely interesting, we didn't learn them as part of scripture I think it was more just to make us well rounded, lol. There are definitely things in them that I would consider not of God, or unbiblical.

Totally agree on that last point. I read a couple a few years ago as a friend was getting caught up in all different things and was confused as to what she had grown up learning and what was in the those texts.

I was with Clag- my Catholic friend says they hold the same weight, maybe its personal? Depends on each person or church?

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 7:39:20 PM   
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Hey girls, I don't normally come in this thread, but I had a question that I don't think really deserves it's own thread. Why do people type "G-d" and "L-rd" not God and Lord with the O?

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 7:51:41 PM   
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Hmmm I asked someone this before and I can't remember Stina. I think its something about preserving like the holiness and stuff like that of His name. I am pretty sure Jews don't write His name like that...I cuold be wrong LOL

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 7:56:33 PM   
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Some people do it out of respect for God's name. It's Jewish tradition that His name is too holy to be spoken or written (or something like that), so some people type G-d instead of "God" out of respect for His name.

I understand and respect where that's coming from, but God and Lord are just titles, not His actual name. We don't even know His true name as far as I understand. Yaweh (YHWH/YHVH, which is called the tetragrammaton or something like that anyway) is the closest thing we know and really just represents His name.

The first person I ever saw do that was Jewish and that was the explanation she gave me. She's now Messianic, but still writes it like that out of reverence.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 9:37:53 PM   
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Ohhhhh, OK. I knew about YHWH....The Jews didn't use vowels back then or something like that, so no one today really knows how it's supposed to be said or spelled. But, in English His name is Jehovah.

Well, that just cleared a lot up for me...Thanks!

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 10:10:48 PM   
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I think Jehovah is just the English pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.

I think. I dunno. It's confusing.

I don't think we'll ever know the pronunciation of his real name this side of heaven though.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 10:14:16 PM   
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I"ve heard the Hebrew translation of the letters WHWH, but it doesn't translate well to English phonetics. I've always been interested in the different names/titles of God in the bible. I think there's a list of many of them in my bible, but I don't remember where.

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 10:30:22 PM   
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My nanna who is Jewish says it like "yay-wah"

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RE: Kicka - #4 - 10/10/2008 10:47:22 PM   
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The pronunciation I've heard for YHWH is the Hebrew word for each letter. It sounds something like "yud heh veuve heh"

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