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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/23/2008 8:11:43 AM
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mapachito13
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We have banners in our town with the names of soldiers/sailors/airmen and their branch of service. We have had one nineteen year old kid who was killed in Iraq two years ago as a result of a traffic accident. The family of this kid have kept a running memorial for him for two years. This memorial gets huge every June 28 the anniversary of his death. The city has changed his banner to read "In Loving Memory of" and it is distinctive from the rest.
This is a roadside memorial since the service banner is hung from a street lamp on a major street in town. Would you want to keep this type of display "in the cemetary" as well? Or is this a different case from the usual roadside memorial? Is the city's change in the banner wording and styling enough?
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/23/2008 12:43:59 PM
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davemiller7
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Or, they could license them and make money!!! I'd better shut up or North Carolina will think of that. 
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I dislike them. We have them all over the place here. They are distracting and I can't count the times rubberneckers gawking at them have nearly caused an additional accident. I agree with Laura...cemeteries are the place to put flowers, balloons, pictures, teddybears, etc...not the sides of the road.
I'd love it if they would make them illegal in my state.
not for long!! 
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/23/2008 7:21:47 PM
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cog41
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We have banners in our town with the names of soldiers/sailors/airmen and their branch of service. We have had one nineteen year old kid who was killed in Iraq two years ago as a result of a traffic accident. The family of this kid have kept a running memorial for him for two years. This memorial gets huge every June 28 the anniversary of his death. The city has changed his banner to read "In Loving Memory of" and it is distinctive from the rest.
This is a roadside memorial since the service banner is hung from a street lamp on a major street in town. Would you want to keep this type of display "in the cemetary" as well? Or is this a different case from the usual roadside memorial? Is the city's change in the banner wording and styling enough?
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This is a roadside memorial since the service banner is hung from a street lamp on a major street in town. Would you want to keep this type of display "in the cemetary" as well? Or is this a different case from the usual roadside memorial? Is the city's change in the banner wording and styling enough?
If the town has a veterans memorial, that is where it belongs. I have no problem with families flying banners and or flags with their loved ones on their property. There is a difference between armed forces personnel dying for their country and someone dying in in an accident.
Maybe we should erect flag,monuments at every construction site some worker fell to their death or was crushed on the job. Every field where a farmer met their maker while producing food or caring for cattle to feed this great nation. Not only place police/firmaens names on the local monument but how about at the site of their death?
This could go on and on and on.
We in this country have become obsessed with mourning. We've turn these symbols/sites into symbols, meant for socalled closure into prompts and props for mourning.
Instead of remembering with honor,respect and an attitude of perserverence, too many turn it into an occasion for "oh how hurt and devestated they are", "oh we 'll never recover"....An attitude of "we're doing this to bring healing"..And next week, and next week and the next month.
I just think we can carry this too far.
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/24/2008 10:28:22 AM
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There was a 14 year old boy killed when he was trying to cross the road to go to our local high school. The DOT had refused to put in "school zones" because they were high schoolers. The car was going 40 MPH in a 30 zone. It took the DOT less than 24 hours to put in a school zone with flashing lights. The students of the school put a memorial at the crosswalk. It has been maintained for 2 years by someone, it is now a professional sign and the flowers are regularly changed. Even with the school zone people fly through that area, it breaks my heart that this boys life meant very little to those who can see the signs yet not slow down for 1 minute as they pass the school to ensure that no other parents have bury a child because they were running late. Leave earlier for goodness sake.
As a parent who has buried a child, I can understand the motive for these memorials. Most think they are doing good reminding people to slow down; others want people to remember their child/brother/sister/friend that died. Because as time marches on people forget...
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/24/2008 3:30:25 PM
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mapachito13
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There was a 14 year old boy killed when he was trying to cross the road to go to our local high school. The DOT had refused to put in "school zones" because they were high schoolers. The car was going 40 MPH in a 30 zone. It took the DOT less than 24 hours to put in a school zone with flashing lights. The students of the school put a memorial at the crosswalk. It has been maintained for 2 years by someone, it is now a professional sign and the flowers are regularly changed. Even with the school zone people fly through that area, it breaks my heart that this boys life meant very little to those who can see the signs yet not slow down for 1 minute as they pass the school to ensure that no other parents have bury a child because they were running late. Leave earlier for goodness sake.
As a parent who has buried a child, I can understand the motive for these memorials. Most think they are doing good reminding people to slow down; others want people to remember their child/brother/sister/friend that died. Because as time marches on people forget...
Schools are the places where I see the worst driving and the saddest thing is that most of these cars have a decal from their church or the "NOTW" symbol. It gets worse when it's ten minutes before the bell.
When the city police put a traffic cop on the corner everybody slows down. But they only do this two to three times during the school year so most of the time it's a free for all. When you tell people to slow down you get cuss words and an extended finger! 
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/27/2008 11:31:57 AM
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I've always appreciated the roadside memorials for the symbolism and care for the person who died.
But I also look at them as a sign that the curve or intersection is dangerous. The governments are unwilling to mark dangerous areas on the roads until they've been embarassed in the media. I've seen places with multiple crosses, all for different people. Usually they were at blind curves or intersections with limited visibility to the crossing street. The crosses will be there much earlier than any response from the governing authority.
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/27/2008 5:35:44 PM
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PrincessDonna
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I can certainly understand why people put them up, and think a small cross or wreath should be allowed providing it doesn't interfere with safety or maintenance.
My husband didn't die in his accident, but we've considered putting up a "Beware of Deere" sign with a picture of a tractor before the blind corner he was hit on. If he had died, I am sure there would be a memorial there now. It's not the same in a cemetery.
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/27/2008 8:53:24 PM
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mapachito13
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When the city police put a traffic cop on the corner everybody slows down. But they only do this two to three times during the school year so most of the time it's a free for all. When you tell people to slow down you get cuss words and an extended finger!
You can certainly tell when the local town marshal is on duty around here! Our town marshal is only part time. The mornings he's on duty speeds past bus stops slow down dramatically!
We live on a dead end street. We have a, well it wouldn't be nice of me to say what I think of this person, for a newspaper delivery person. Locally there is an afternoon paper that is delivered about 1 PM. And she is NUTS! Her driving is atrocious and dangerous! Now during the school year it's not so bad because the kids aren't around as much, but during the summer months it's dangerous for the kids in the neighborhood because they are in danger when they ride their bikes, play in the yards or walk between each others homes, with this woman around. I've stopped her before and asked her to PLEASE slow down and I was cussed out big time! The very next day she almost hit my two youngest children who were standing ON my driveway waiting for me to take a walk with them. She actually swerved onto my driveway!!!  And she SWORE and my kids for being on the road! They were not! I called the local county sheriff and my local marshal and the newspaper office. I didn't see her for a few weeks after that, but she's back now. I don't even let the animals near the road when she's around. She's crazy. But your right - all that happens is that you get cuss words and nasty gestures. Or worse yet the anger is directed at your children.
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It used to be you could point out people's bad behavior and others also would back your play. Now when you call someone out for bad behavior other people sometimes treat you like you're some sort of jerk!? Civil behavior is no longer popular I guess. Now , I hold my tongue unless they are being rude to my kids then, watch out!
Marcus, you made an interesting point about the memorials. It gave me a different way of looking at this. It helped me think out of the box!
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RE: State To Remove Roadside Memorials - 9/28/2008 10:33:19 AM
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cog41
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Now when you call someone out for bad behavior other people sometimes treat you like you're some sort of jerk!?
Yep they sure do. Especially when the officer stops when "nobody else" is on the road. So you didn't "stop" you rolled through ththere's no one on the road at 1am. And when you got busted you belly ached cause no body else is out here,what is rolling through going to hurt! Where's the nice civil conduct?
These memorials don't have the impact on safety that you think they do.
as I've said,erect a cross or whatever and leave it at that. But whoever puts it there should be responsible for maintaining it. Not the state,not the County,not the city. And if you allow it to become a heap of dead flowers and cards you should expect to face ordinance or state law violations.
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