If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Christian" first?
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If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Christian... - 9/20/2008 5:55:03 AM
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ekserekseez
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As a conservative libertarian, I see a theme starting to develop here. If Obama/Biden lose, their followers will automatically cry "racism." Well, if McCain/Palin lose, will their followers automatically blame it on "anti-Christian" bias?
This is a question that has intrigued me for a while. Personally, I would never EVER take someone's religious beliefs, race, gender, or anything else into consideration when voting for them (or not). The ONLY thing I consider is whether they will let me keep more of my money. That's what this country was founded on, even though the socialists will come up with a zillion reasons of "social engineering" since they don't read the Constitution.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 7:28:11 AM
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Anyone disappointed with a McCain loss enough to decry anything would probably not call anti-anything, we'll be bemoaning the fact that we live in a country filled with socialist suckers!!
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 8:18:02 AM
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Are McCain and Palin running as christians?
I would think it would be hard to deny that Obama is running as a black man. I think its very prominent in his campaign.
Remember, it hasn't been republicans who cry over lost elections ( Al Gore )
Maybe if the republicans lose they might actually get back to being...conservative.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 10:14:21 AM
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Are McCain and Palin running as christians?
I would think it would be hard to deny that Obama is running as a black man. I think its very prominent in his campaign....
Excellent post SonInMe1.
Thanks
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 10:18:45 AM
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Maybe if the republicans lose they might actually get back to being...conservative.
Then I'd get to vote for relevant parties and candidates again. :D Until then though I'm happy with what I've been voting for.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:00:30 AM
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How could McCain run as a Christian? He is not a member of a church! I don't think he has ever shared a story of a salvation experience.
I am encouraging brothers and sisters to vote for the Dems, so we wouldn't cry "anti-Christian" if the Republicans lost.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:13:20 AM
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How could McCain run as a Christian? He is not a member of a church! I don't think he has ever shared a story of a salvation experience.
I am encouraging brothers and sisters to vote for the Dems, so we wouldn't cry "anti-Christian" if the Republicans lost.
Church "membership" does not make one a Christian. He and his wife have attended North Phoenix Baptist Church for several years.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:17:05 AM
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ekserekseez
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I'm pretty sure Palin is running as a "Christian." And although I have no intention of voting for Obama, I must say that it's a shameless partisan lie to say the he's running as a black man.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:22:34 AM
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I'm pretty sure Palin is running as a "Christian." And although I have no intention of voting for Obama, I must say that it's a shameless partisan lie to say the he's running as a black man.
So is Obama running as a Christian too?
Please..talk about a dumb thread. Nanna boo boo and what are you?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:37:40 AM
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FreddieD
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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez
As a conservative libertarian, I see a theme starting to develop here. If Obama/Biden lose, their followers will automatically cry "racism." Well, if McCain/Palin lose, will their followers automatically blame it on "anti-Christian" bias?
This is a question that has intrigued me for a while. Personally, I would never EVER take someone's religious beliefs, race, gender, or anything else into consideration when voting for them (or not). The ONLY thing I consider is whether they will let me keep more of my money. That's what this country was founded on, even though the socialists will come up with a zillion reasons of "social engineering" since they don't read the Constitution.
They all are Christians. As far as socialism is concern hasn’t the government proven that already by nationalizing all of the major finical institutions? Where you been?
FreddieD
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:41:01 AM
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As far as socialism is concern hasn’t the government proven that already by nationalizing all of the major finical institutions? Where you been?
FreddieD
Nothing was nationalized. And I have been right here carefully monitoring what has happened.
I am a proud capitalist... and I agree with what the government has done.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 11:56:20 AM
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Nothing was nationalized. And I have been right here carefully monitoring what has happened.
I am a proud capitalist... and I agree with what the government has done.
Some considered the take over of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as nationalizing. I guess you can call it a bailout but the government is in control. What else could be considered as “nationalizing”?
FreddieD
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 12:50:20 PM
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Dubya
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Nothing was nationalized. And I have been right here carefully monitoring what has happened.
I am a proud capitalist... and I agree with what the government has done.
Some considered the take over of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as nationalizing. I guess you can call it a bailout but the government is in control. What else could be considered as “nationalizing”?
FreddieD
These were government supported entities to begin with and still are... no change.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 1:21:20 PM
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FreddieD
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These were government supported entities to begin with and still are... no change.
Yes, there have been bailouts before, but you are treating this as incidental. This is a crash.
Seven months ago an article by James Pethokoukis: Bank Bailout Is a Path to Nationalization defines "nationalizing". Wasn't he prophetic? He writes.
‘Big Government seems to be definitely back in the building. And if it isn't, I think it at least just pulled into the parking lot.’
He also quotes Harold Meyerson at the Washington Post,
“Indeed, columnist Harold Meyerson at the Washington Post thinks the federal government, in exchange for all the Fed's liquidation moves in recent days and weeks, should have a seat on the board of directors at major financial institutions. ‘Bring on the new New Deal,’”
This is no small deal. You are going see your taxes increased and the economy difficult for the next twenty years. We did it, we over extended your credit, and we are going to pay for it. Like the financial institutions and we will be looking for government for help.
FreddieD
< Message edited by FreddieD -- 9/20/2008 1:41:17 PM >
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 1:49:01 PM
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How could McCain run as a Christian? He is not a member of a church! I don't think he has ever shared a story of a salvation experience.
I am encouraging brothers and sisters to vote for the Dems, so we wouldn't cry "anti-Christian" if the Republicans lost.
Voting for a pro homosexual agenda is something to encourage brothers and sisters in Christ to do?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 1:51:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez
I'm pretty sure Palin is running as a "Christian." And although I have no intention of voting for Obama, I must say that it's a shameless partisan lie to say the he's running as a black man.
So is Obama running as a Christian too?
He's making an attempt... Only those who believe a Christian is anyone that doesn't outtright denounce God think the man is a Christian...
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 1:51:55 PM
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I have to admit I laughed when I read the OP.
I was trying to find a stronger word for "ludicrous" to describe this notion.
I couldn't decide between these though:
absurd, antic, awful, bizarre, comic, comical, crazy, farcical, foolish, funny, laughable, nonsensical, ridiculous, ridiculous. funny, risible, silly, zany
I think "who will cry 'age descrimination?'" would have been a better OP for the McCain team but still that would be lame at best considering how our culture has little respect for the aged in our society anyways.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 1:52:28 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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They all are Christians.
FreddieD
Which means a Christians can believe in anything they want and still claim the name of Christ...
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 3:26:37 PM
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ekserekseez
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I think there are other threads about the government's various bailouts, but let's just say for now, the fact that FannieMae and FreddieMac exist, not to mention the FDIC, proves that we live in a socialist state.
How do you run on a "less government" platform and still ask taxpayers to put up billions of dollars for these sort of bailouts?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 3:52:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure Palin is running as a "Christian." And although I have no intention of voting for Obama, I must say that it's a shameless partisan lie to say the he's running as a black man.
"You're going to hear he's not experienced enough, he has a funny name, oh and btw he's Black" - Barak Obama (may not be word for word but the context and content is correct)
How is that NOT bringing "race" into it? Btw, his more "public" statement is the same except he substituted the race part for "he's not patriotic".
What about the statement, "He doesn't look like the guys on the dollar bills"? What is THAT supposed to mean?!? If he's not referring to "race", then what's it SUPPOSED to mean? Excluding race, McCain doesn't look like any of them either so it's a stupid thing to say. So it's CLEAR he means "race". The closest McCain looks to any of them is Ike, and he's on the silver dollar COIN. :P
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 3:58:33 PM
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So is Obama running as a Christian too?
He's making an attempt... Only those who believe a Christian is anyone that doesn't outtright denounce God think the man is a Christian...
Besides, I'm still at a loss at how a "Christian" makes a "slip" in an interview in which he says, "My MUSLIM faith". That wouldn't even be on my mind for me to make such a "slip" (which had to be corrected by Stephanopolis and NOT Obama himself btw)
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 4:00:58 PM
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Are McCain and Palin running as christians?
I would think it would be hard to deny that Obama is running as a black man. I think its very prominent in his campaign.
Remember, it hasn't been republicans who cry over lost elections ( Al Gore )
Maybe if the republicans lose they might actually get back to being...conservative.
Man, this is the thought I can't get out of my head. I've decided not to stay home, but I do wrestle with this thought.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 4:02:22 PM
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ekserekseez
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And this is why I may still vote for Barr or Paul.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 6:30:51 PM
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LabGuy
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As a conservative libertarian, I see a theme starting to develop here. If Obama/Biden lose, their followers will automatically cry "racism." Well, if McCain/Palin lose, will their followers automatically blame it on "anti-Christian" bias?
Except the idea that Obama supporters will cry "racism" is not speculation - they are already doing it. Democrat legislators in Ohio flat-out said people who vote for McCain are racist. A CNN commentator attributed the closeness of the election to race. The AP is running a story today about white Democrats having a problem with Obama's race. If it's a theme, it's because the press and his supporters have made it such.
In contrast, there hasn't been a peep about people not voting for McCain because he's a Christian.
Personally, I don't think the pro-Obama camp is making excuses; I think they're simply trying to guilt people into voting for him.
-Robb
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
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Besides, I'm still at a loss at how a "Christian" makes a "slip" in an interview in which he says, "My MUSLIM faith". That wouldn't even be on my mind for me to make such a "slip" (which had to be corrected by Stephanopolis and NOT Obama himself btw)
I'm with you. That's a big slip. Downright weird.
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