RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Christian" first?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 9:07:43 PM
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FreddieD
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Which means a Christians can believe in anything they want and still claim the name of Christ...
Of course, if you claim that you are a Christian than you is to say your not? Are you going to pass judgement on your neighbor?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 9:29:03 PM
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Which means a Christians can believe in anything they want and still claim the name of Christ...
Of course, if you claim that you are a Christian than you is to say your not? Are you going to pass judgement on your neighbor?
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When the guy down the street is raping children in the name of God I'll pass judgment... You bet... Same when they support the murder of children...
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 9:40:05 PM
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FreddieD
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When the guy down the street is raping children in the name of God I'll pass judgment... You bet... Same when they support the murder of children...
Does that include Ted Haggard (Pastor Ted)?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 10:04:41 PM
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Absolutely. We don't know exactly what he did, but messing with homosexuality and drugs is flat out wrong.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/20/2008 10:08:47 PM
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When the guy down the street is raping children in the name of God I'll pass judgment... You bet... Same when they support the murder of children...
Does that include Ted Haggard (Pastor Ted)?
FreddieD
Even more so given the place of authority...
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 10:35:10 AM
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Except the idea that Obama supporters will cry "racism" is not speculation - they are already doing it.
Not just the Obama yes men either. I can tell you if I say I am going to vote for McCain at work, I will be called a racist.
What will your minority brethern think if, as a minority, you vote for McCain? Think about that..and then tell me this presidential campaign isn't about race.
There are going to be a ton of people voting for Obama, of every racial and ethnic backgrounds, because of the skin pigment he has.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 10:51:21 AM
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I'll tell you how bad it is. My mother cannot put a McCain sign in her front yard. She was vandalized for doing so already, and she is not the only one. McCain signs are being repeatedly ripped up in her neighborhood. And I hate to say it but there are some minorities who live on her street and they cursed her for putting out the sign. I'm sure that the logic will be used that why would they vandalize and destroy the sign since they have already revealed they're upset. That would just make them an obvious target of investigation. Well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck. IOW, they are the most likely candidates given their aggressive display towards an old woman. I guess they took that advice seriously about gettin' in your neighbor's face.
I am angry about this and I hate that my mother lives by herself. Thankfully, my brother lives about 20 minutes away. But he and I still think she needs to be somewhere that doesn't put her at risk, and right now, she's at risk. She is no shrinking violet. Not rude in her boldness, but not backing down either. There will probably be another sign in the yard soon if I know my mother.
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What I'm going to suggest to her is that she put a pi in a car in the neighborhood to catch these people in the act. She has the means, and I hope she uses it; otherwise, a group of bullies will undermine one of the most important freedoms we have.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 11:02:20 AM
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I just want to add that there are other minorities in her neighborhood who are fine, and in fact, I hate even referring to them as "minorities" since that's not how we think of them at all. They are friends and neighbors. Some are voting for Obama and some are not. But they are civil and the acts of a few disturb them as well. Just wanted to make it clear that I don't believe in swabbing a whole group of people with the same brush.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 11:32:28 AM
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How could McCain run as a Christian? He is not a member of a church! I don't think he has ever shared a story of a salvation experience.
I am encouraging brothers and sisters to vote for the Dems, so we wouldn't cry "anti-Christian" if the Republicans lost.
50 million dead since Death Roe and you want to help them. How many million do you need?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 12:16:43 PM
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The Mccain/Palin ticket is not claiming christianity,
so how can anyone be fooled into thinking they are.
Has anyone seen any Christ-like behavior from either?
Are they evening mentioning Christ on the trail?
I know Bo is black, I'm not sure Mccain or Palin is a Christian.
So I better stick with what I know.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 12:47:10 PM
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tracydolls:
Thanks for responding! You're one of the few who gets it. Please, start a column or blog or something; you're one of the only sane ones out there.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 1:08:14 PM
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The Mccain/Palin ticket is not claiming christianity,
so how can anyone be fooled into thinking they are.
Has anyone seen any Christ-like behavior from either?
Are they evening mentioning Christ on the trail?
I know Bo is black, I'm not sure Mccain or Palin is a Christian.
So I better stick with what I know.
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tracydolls:
Thanks for responding! You're one of the few who gets it. Please, start a column or blog or something; you're one of the only sane ones out there
Gets what? That Barackstar is black? I know Palin is a Christian. Obama isn't even certain of his faith. Remember the interview with Stephanopolus? They are running a political campaign, not to fill a pulpit. If they were mentioning Christ all the time the libs would be screaming for seperation of church and state.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 2:14:07 PM
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Rockwall
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How could McCain run as a Christian? He is not a member of a church! I don't think he has ever shared a story of a salvation experience.
I am encouraging brothers and sisters to vote for the Dems, so we wouldn't cry "anti-Christian" if the Republicans lost.
Voting for a pro homosexual agenda is something to encourage brothers and sisters in Christ to do?
Actually your are wrong my friend. They would be voting for a pro-homosexual AND a pro-infanticide agenda.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 2:29:31 PM
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I have to admit I laughed when I read the OP.
I was trying to find a stronger word for "ludicrous" to describe this notion.
I couldn't decide between these though:
absurd, antic, awful, bizarre, comic, comical, crazy, farcical, foolish, funny, laughable, nonsensical, ridiculous, ridiculous. funny, risible, silly, zany
I think "who will cry 'age descrimination?'" would have been a better OP for the McCain team but still that would be lame at best considering how our culture has little respect for the aged in our society anyways.
I don't think it's ludicrous at all but rather a valid question. If not McCain, then Palin is the one that is "too Christian" for some. I have read even on here about the surprise of Palin being against abortion even in the case of rape or incest.
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Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles. Race LINK
Keep in mind that nobody cried racism whenever Hillary lost to Obama. It's only racism if you don't vote for the black man but not racist if you vote for the white man (or woman).
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 4:04:31 PM
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Gets what? That Barackstar is black? I know Palin is a Christian. Obama isn't even certain of his faith. Remember the interview with Stephanopolus? They are running a political campaign, not to fill a pulpit. If they were mentioning Christ all the time the libs would be screaming for seperation of church and state.
How do you know that Palin is Christian? By her deeds, her words, her works, her fruits?
I as a Christian a follower of Christ DO NOT CARE WHAT people think of me. I am already a stranger in this world.
I still have not heard Palin mention Jesus Christ.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 4:17:32 PM
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I still have not heard Palin mention Jesus Christ.
How many times do we need to show you the video of her confession of her love for Christ and request for prayer. I know I have pointed it out to you at least two times ...
One last time and part two
I keep trying to give you the benefit of a doubt, but you are beginning to lose ALL credibility with your comments ... do you realize that when you accused others of racism in the quickness and manner I have seen on these forums, you are not being a reflection of Christ? Please remember Whose you are and take the time to pray before you write anything here ... if you truly are a follower of Christ, are you aware that the way you come across may be causing those who do know Him to want to have nothing to do with Him?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/21/2008 4:17:54 PM
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Gets what? That Barackstar is black? I know Palin is a Christian. Obama isn't even certain of his faith. Remember the interview with Stephanopolus? They are running a political campaign, not to fill a pulpit. If they were mentioning Christ all the time the libs would be screaming for seperation of church and state.
How do you know that Palin is Christian? By her deeds, her words, her works, her fruits?
I as a Christian a follower of Christ DO NOT CARE WHAT people think of me. I am already a stranger in this world.
I still have not heard Palin mention Jesus Christ.
Yes, I've read about her in the Alaska papers. She does speak about her faith. There has been plenty of coverage and even a thread about her church. I also know that, as governor, she likes to talk to ordinary people. There was a letter to the editor several weeks ago in the Fairbanks paper. Sarah was on a flight from Anchorage to Fairbanks. One of the Fairbanks high school football teams was on the flight. Sarah flew coach and spoke with the players, their families, and other people on board the flight. At the airport she was simply being personal with many people in the airport. When's the last time you saw that in a politician? By her deeds I would say she is a Christian. She cares deeply for the people of Alaska and for the people of the United States.
Obama, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be sure if he is Muslim or Christian. And then, the church he did attend before his pastor stole the headlines, makes me wonder if he's Christian.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 12:35:44 AM
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The Mccain/Palin ticket is not claiming christianity,
so how can anyone be fooled into thinking they are.
Has anyone seen any Christ-like behavior from either?
Are they evening mentioning Christ on the trail?
I know Bo is black, I'm not sure Mccain or Palin is a Christian.
So I better stick with what I know.
John McCain has adopted three or four children. The youngest was a sick baby. She's darker than BO. The McCain's knew another couple who wanted to adopt a baby, but the child had severe medical problems so they couldn't. The McCains paid the bills and the baby got a family.
80-90% of children with Down's syndrome are hunted down and executed before birth. Not Sarah Palin's child. I think that's one of the reasons liberals hate her.
Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant. She's welcoming her premature grandchild with love and affection. BO, on the other hand, has mused openly about killing his own preborn grandchild because they're a "problem," not a human being made in God's image.
BO is a millionaire. The school his children go to costs more than $11,000 for pre-school, but his brother lives in a shack. He's got a history of very small charitable giving. The same is true for Joe Biden. They both want it legal to stab a baby in the skull and suck her brains out.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 1:04:34 AM
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Preach it, brother LJ!
There is just no comparison between McCain and Obama or Palin and Obama. Single out whatever blemish you will on McCain and Palin, but Obama is worse.
Obama is worse on abortion.
Obama is worse on homosexuality.
Obama is worse on charity.
Obama is worse on integrity.
Obama is worse on honesty.
Obama is worse on religion.
Obama is worse on the economy.
Obama is worse on the military.
Obama is worse on energy.
I could go on, but these points have already been demonstrated many times.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 11:07:53 AM
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Are you implying that Obama is not a Christian?
Interesting.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 12:22:10 PM
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Are you implying that Obama is not a Christian?
Interesting.
How do any of us know if he soesn't even seem to know? While some could call it a slip of the tongue to say "My Muslim faith" during a televised interview, what's on the heart comes off the tongue. He seems to be a man divided against himself. Isn't there a proverb about this?
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 12:58:45 PM
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I thought that the slip of the tongue was interesting too. But to be honest, I've made similar, and as embarrassing, slips myself, so I wouldn't read too much into that in itself.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 1:33:32 PM
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zamdad
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I thought that the slip of the tongue was interesting too. But to be honest, I've made similar, and as embarrassing, slips myself, so I wouldn't read too much into that in itself.
We've all said things we shouldn't have. But to be talking about your faith and call yourself a Muslim and then have to be reminded your Christian seems to be more than a mere slip of the tongue.
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RE: If McCain/Palin lose, who will cry "anti-Chris... - 9/22/2008 1:58:45 PM
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I don't think people will "cry" "anti-Christian" if Palin/McCain loose. Republican conservatives have always enjoyed the conservative evangelical vote. Or at least in the last few decades. I don't think the anti-Christian sentiment was used when Clinton won two terms. Outside of religious moral issues, religious labels are hard to apply.
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