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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 12:24:49 PM
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StephK
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Where I live a gun is sometimes necessary to deal with angry critters who have been washed out of their humble abode.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 12:25:55 PM
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I've decided I'm a walking oxymoron on this issue. I'm voting for Obama. I own a gun. I think the NRA is a bit off the deep end on this issue.
I'm not worried about it.
It took me all of about 30 minutes to buy a gun. The shop just wanted to know that I wasn't an axe murderer before they sold it to me. Seems reasonable.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 12:33:02 PM
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The point is. The government takes away our right to own a gun. Then they continue to strip us of every other constitutional right. What recourse do we have at that point? The 2nd Amendment was put in place so that we could have a revolution if need be.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 12:34:54 PM
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It does seem to be very much a cultural thing.
Yes, this nation fought too many wars inside itself and outside.
It history amount of taking arms a lot...
I do not have ideia to have all of that in my DNA and familiy history and etc
I cannot even say that I know "America" and claim an "America" of my own, it is not possible, as "America" is "America".
It is very much strange as to embrace US you must embrace what it stand for but at the moment I am in conflict but sure even some born in America may feel as I do..hmmm...I don't known.
I do feel very strange at the moment and is part of cultural shock one may go when immigrate even after almost 20 years
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 12:53:36 PM
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AdrianaS
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The point is. The government takes away our right to own a gun. Then they continue to strip us of every other constitutional right. What recourse do we have at that point? The 2nd Amendment was put in place so that we could have a revolution if need be.
I went through revolution right wing dictartoship, in my original country for 20 years and believe me, you cannot win!
Look at the militaristic arsenal USA have plus all the agencies and the law enforcement force. The situation that was on hundred years ago everybody was carry the same weapons I supose? Look the weapons today as the tanks and stuff.
Well, carry on than... do not go without at least trying and a fight! 
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 1:01:15 PM
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Obama can't ban guns. It's a Constitutional right and has been held up by the Supreme Court. It would take a constitutional amendment to ban guns. Neither a President nor Congress can amend the Constitution.
A majority of the US Supreme Court will be replaced in the next eight years. An ultra libreral Supreme Court that rules by empathy and the world court not the constitution can ban guns.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 1:31:23 PM
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And my last saying in this thread that brought up deep emotions inside myself, about the reality of those fighting armed tyran impose Govs, those people in this earth who are still oppressed by tyran regimes and fighting for their freedoms.
I do have to express in music: Memories and sadness
Thanks.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 1:38:14 PM
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An object lesson on how a liberal Supreme Court would deal with individual rights can be found in the 2005 Kelo v. New London Decision.
Quoting from a Washington Post article:
"The Supreme Court ruled yesterday that local governments may force property owners to sell out and make way for private economic development when officials decide it would benefit the public, even if the property is not blighted and the new project's success is not guaranteed."
The 5-4 decision broke down like this:
In favor: John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Stephen Breyer. (Four liberal jurists plus a swing vote.)
Opposed: Sandra Day O'Connor, William Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia, and Clarence Thomas. (Three conservative jurists plus a swing vote.)
Remember, the liberal view is that the Constitution is a "living document" subject to reinterpretation. This decision shows that small things like the Bill of Rights can be completely twisted. (To wit, the Fifth Amendment clause "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." "Public use" is completely re-invented to include giving it to private developers.)
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 1:52:25 PM
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The Gun Ban does not affect me as I do not own one or plan to.
I even would come up with a proposal that anyone who owns guns do have to be check for anger management and other stuff..with the amount of stress in this society and the behaviour of some as in roadrage and other rages, no way would feel safe anyone walking around carry thier "pet guns" legaly...
But, this is not about you, is it? And, these checks are supposedly in place already.
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Obama can't ban guns. It's a Constitutional right and has been held up by the Supreme Court. It would take a constitutional amendment to ban guns. Neither a President nor Congress can amend the Constitution.
Held up by a 5 to 4 vote. And the matter can always come before the court again in front of democrat appointed judges. The`second amendment seems rather clear to me. But so many others seem to view it completely different than me.
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I am sure ignorant, Laura.
Having a gun is a Constitutional right?
I am going to research how it goes..as never payed attention to this issue at all.
This speaks volumes about why we're in the mess we're in on all the issues.
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The judges can't change the Constitution either. They would have to rule in opposition to the very clear wording of the Constitution and in opposition of previous Supreme Court rulings. It ain't gonna happen...at least not that way. It would take a huge initiative to amend the Constitution and it would have to go on a ballot to be decided by the American people.
I'll make it clear...since experience tells me I must...I am not an Obama supporter. There are plenty of reasons for me to not vote for him. Protecting our right to bear arms just isn't one of them.
I beg to differ on this. Over the past 40 years we have been bombarded with messages from the mainstream media that guns are the root cause of all the violent deaths in our nation. There are too many people that are afraid of the gun, not the person carrying the gun. This was driven home to me bluntly Sunday before last. I am a cop. My Glock is part of my uniform. I've worn my uniform to church three times. Once, to speak to AWANA kids. One of the kids there asked me why I was wearing my gun in church. I explained to all the kids that it's part of the uniform. Two Sunday's ago, I wore my uniform to church as I had to go to work right after the service. I was met by the head deacon who said that some people expressed concern about me wearing a gun in church and asked me if I could leave it in the trunk of my car.
Now. I live in a very rural community where guns are a part of life. Yet, there are some people that are so uncomfortable with the gun itself that they would ask a cop to remove it before entering a church. What would happen if I obliged their desires and a mad man came into the church with a gun? Everyone expects me, the cop, to do something but they disarmed me because their fear is the gun, not the person.
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I would hope that states do decide as their citizens if they want to be states of weapons or no weapons. I would choose to move and live among those non weapons states. As do not cross the state border carrying your weapons inside our mist.
Thanks for illustrating my point, Adriana.
Message edited to correct source of last comment.
< Message edited by zamdad -- 9/24/2008 2:04:48 PM >
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 1:58:39 PM
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I would hope that states do decide as their citizens if they want to be states of weapons or no weapons. I would choose to move and live among those non weapons states. As do not cross the state border carrying your weapons inside our mist.
Thanks for illustrating my point, Laura.
That's not a quote of anything I said. I agree that we should have the right to bear arms. I personally don't own a gun but I am not for eliminating gun ownership.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 2:06:31 PM
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zamdad
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I would hope that states do decide as their citizens if they want to be states of weapons or no weapons. I would choose to move and live among those non weapons states. As do not cross the state border carrying your weapons inside our mist.
Thanks for illustrating my point, Laura.
That's not a quote of anything I said. I agree that we should have the right to bear arms. I personally don't own a gun but I am not for eliminating gun ownership.
Sorry, I corrected my mistake.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 2:15:25 PM
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Britain banned guns. Crime rates skyrocketed. Australia banned guns. Crime rates skyrocketed.
In the US the states with the lowest crime rates usually have the fewest restrictions on private ownership of guns. The places with teh strongest restrictions on guns normally have the highest crime rates.
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I would hope that states do decide as their citizens if they want to be states of weapons or no weapons. I would choose to move and live among those non weapons states. As do not cross the state border carrying your weapons inside our mist. 
Do you know what person is called who chooses not to defend themselves? A victim.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 2:41:49 PM
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As a Christian who doesn't hunt, I have no need for guns. I would prefer my neighbors not have them, either, but I really don't care too much.
I do want us to follow the law of the land, but we have not done that for quite some time. I also believe that Obama, a constitutional scholar, would not pass a law that violates the 2nd amendment (but again, it won't effect me negatively if he did!)
Do you know what a person is called who chooses not to defend themselves? Christ-like.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 3:01:27 PM
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AdrianaS
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I was not planning to come here as my memory was triggered and got emotional etc..
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The Gun Ban does not affect me as I do not own one or plan to.
I even would come up with a proposal that anyone who owns guns do have to be check for anger management and other stuff..with the amount of stress in this society and the behaviour of some as in roadrage and other rages, no way would feel safe anyone walking around carry thier "pet guns" legaly...
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But, this is not about you, is it? And, these checks are supposedly in place already.
Well, I hope people like me would be taken into consideration. I do not feel safe among regular people/civilians carrying weapons.
Checks are into place but the system is not perfect plus guns can be taken from their lawful owners, and even people can snap also. I do not feel safe people carrying guns.
I do come from a military family, males had their guns show to us, warned that was danger and to not touch ever and than hide it safe. At 18 I almost went to something like FBI school but decided not because I had o carry and use real weapon. I am this type of person.
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I am sure ignorant, Laura.
Having a gun is a Constitutional right?
I am going to research how it goes..as never payed attention to this issue at all.
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This speaks volumes about why we're in the mess we're in on all the issues.
Yes I supose..I had an ideia people were buying guns and have papers for it but strange it may be never crossed my mind many were doing so or could do so and even any person carying one at public place. Silli it may be if get to see a person carrying a gun etc would think they were "agents" or undercover offices...yes, I may be clueless and naive.
Now I ill be way more vigilant on my surroudings as "anyone" may be carrying a gun etc if saw a riffle and people living near by woods etc of course would think they were hunters, that would not scare me as to see smaller weapons in metropolitan areas etc
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I would hope that states do decide as their citizens if they want to be states of weapons or no weapons. I would choose to move and live among those non weapons states. As do not cross the state border carrying your weapons inside our mist.
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Thanks for illustrating my point, Adriana.
You are welcome! I guess many would be ok with that it seems fair.. and I sure would feel safer with those arrangements.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 3:06:41 PM
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As a Christian who doesn't hunt, I have no need for guns. I would prefer my neighbors not have them, either, but I really don't care too much.
I do want us to follow the law of the land, but we have not done that for quite some time. I also believe that Obama, a constitutional scholar, would not pass a law that violates the 2nd amendment (but again, it won't effect me negatively if he did!)
Do you know what a person is called who chooses not to defend themselves? Christ-like.
Christ tells us to love one another, look out for one another. What I hear in most of your post is "doesn't effect ME." Saying that Obama wouldn't pass a law that violates any amendment is placing a lot of trust in a man seeking the most powerful office in the nation if not the world.
To say that chosing not to defend yourself is Christ like may be true for you on a personal level. But when thugs come to destroy your neighbors, it's not very Christ like to turn your other cheek on them.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 3:21:17 PM
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As a Christian who doesn't hunt, I have no need for guns. I would prefer my neighbors not have them, either, but I really don't care too much.
I do want us to follow the law of the land, but we have not done that for quite some time. I also believe that Obama, a constitutional scholar, would not pass a law that violates the 2nd amendment (but again, it won't effect me negatively if he did!)
Do you know what a person is called who chooses not to defend themselves? Christ-like.
 You my choice neighbor PhunkD !!!
I never was a victim of any crime and not because of lack exposure, I had high exposures for many reasons. I live most of my life in metropolitan cities and countries. Here up north, took those late night trains because of working in restaurants until close etc. Live in high criminality communities at some point for a while..sure friends and relatives have their own different testimonies, some went throu horror as kidnapping or wake up with robber inside bedroom with gun and etc
I am grateful to God plus think I'm city smart not acting like "tourist" and others as preventing what I can also. May the Lord keep protecting all of us and there is the 911 and community watch and neighbors also.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 3:26:27 PM
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If you don't think the 2nd Amendment affects you, take an American history class!! Preferably one better than the one you took in public school.
Adriana, are you a citizen? Able to vote? I almost came down so hard on a couple of your posts but go to the clarification that you were not born here. If people are able to vote in this country with absolutely no understanding of our Constitution, however, it really does explain a lot, doesn't it!?!? But, sadly, I know many many many citizens born here don't even have the first clue what their real "rights" are. They're too lulled by the "right" to own a home and think no one should be carrying a gun! For crying out loud! Sometimes I think there really is no hope for us people.
Dh has a gun. I know how to shoot it. I don't like to but I can and I could if I had to. I'm not a fan of guns but I think it's unAmerican not to own one even if it's purely for the exercise of our Constitutional right. As Americans, it's our DUTY to be ready to defend this country from enemies within and without. Besides the right to bear arms, we have the right to vote and we don't appreciate how precious that is either. These are our two weapons against tyranny - and we're throwing them away! It terrifies me!!
Oh! I had to edit to add that we think we have the right to healthcare and to own a home, we fritter away our right to vote and just throw away our right to bear arms...AND we (Biden) think it's Patriotic to pay more taxes! Boston Tea Party anyone? Someone needs to toss Biden and his tea overboard!
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 3:35:36 PM
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I'm not a fan of guns but I think it's unAmerican not to own one even if it's purely for the exercise of our Constitutional right. As Americans, it's our DUTY to be ready to defend this country from enemies within and without.
Do you know where I learned the proper way to handle a rifle and pistol?
In my high school. It was part of JROTC which was a required course for the male students.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 4:00:57 PM
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It took me all of about 30 minutes to buy a gun. The shop just wanted to know that I wasn't an axe murderer before they sold it to me. Seems reasonable.
If ti took you all of about 30 minutes to buy a handgun without the proper background checks and waiting periods then you should report the gun shop.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 4:12:20 PM
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If you don't think the 2nd Amendment affects you, take an American history class!! Preferably one better than the one you took in public school.
Adriana, are you a citizen? Able to vote? I almost came down so hard on a couple of your posts but go to the clarification that you were not born here. If people are able to vote in this country with absolutely no understanding of our Constitution, however, it really does explain a lot, doesn't it!?!? But, sadly, I know many many many citizens born here don't even have the first clue what their real "rights" are. They're too lulled by the "right" to own a home and think no one should be carrying a gun! For crying out loud! Sometimes I think there really is no hope for us people.
Well ,feel free to take the issues you have problem with to those who preper the citizenship exams ad asking the questions and giving the new status of citizenship.
I'm amost 44, came to the US in my early 20's not a kid going to school here and and than naturalized. I guess I even know more or at least really interested to know some stuff..than my own cousin who is married for 25 years with an US Diplomat...but we both share he same position about weapons and other things. 
Thanks for the suggestion but no thanks, no History classes for me or sitting in academic environments to me. I do learn in my own pace not imposed by some.
Thanks.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 4:31:55 PM
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Just the fact, though, that a person can live in this country for 20+ years, or even be born and educated in this country, and not know that the right to bear arms is one of the fundamental founding principals of this nation is really upsetting to me. See how far (low) we've come! It's no wonder we're such a mess when we don't even know what our Constitutional rights are. Like I said, more Americans think they have the "right" to an abortion or to free healthcare than to free speech and to defend themselves. It's a travesty. I blame education.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 6:20:06 PM
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As a Christian who doesn't hunt, I have no need for guns. I would prefer my neighbors not have them, either, but I really don't care too much.
I do want us to follow the law of the land, but we have not done that for quite some time. I also believe that Obama, a constitutional scholar, would not pass a law that violates the 2nd amendment (but again, it won't effect me negatively if he did!)
His voting record says otherwise....
* Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
* FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
* Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
* Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
* Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
* Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
* Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
* Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
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Do you know what a person is called who chooses not to defend themselves? Christ-like.
Really... David, a man after God's own heart wasn't a Christ-like?
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 6:50:04 PM
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I haven't heard much about gun rights in this election. This is a very important issue to most in my rather large family and I.
Quite simply, if you value your constitutional right to have a gun don't vote Obama. He hates guns and would see them completely off limits.
Obama supports:
A total ban on handguns
A ban on sale and transfer of semi-auto rifles
A ban on right-to-carry permits
A ban on guns kept in the home
A huge tax increase on
I see the far-right is getting desperate again.
This is the same trash that NRA and its 527 allies were pushing in Tennessee during the 2000 election.
And of course, some voters were dumb enough to believe that a new president could sweep into office, and erase the Second Amendment with a wave.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 7:01:49 PM
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Really... David, a man after God's own heart wasn't a Christ-like?
Yep the Scriptures says that and much more about him, including that he was a man of blood, a warrior and etc
As The Bible say much aout Paul a killer who became a man of God with marks on his body because of sooo much beating because of the Lord's cause..even when he got beaten illegaly as Roman citizen with Silas in prision, do you remember?
We sure have much examples in the Bible even Lord Jesus "gluing" the soldier ear when Mr. Peter "hot blooded"cut it of..
I am a fighter but not pro-weapons style.
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RE: The Gun Ban Cometh: Obama WILL Disarm You - 9/24/2008 7:38:23 PM
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todd, why is it "desparate" to point out where a presidential candidate stands on a Constitutional right? No, Obama wouldn't be able to ban guns on his first day if he got elected, but 4 years (possibly 8) is a long time in which to work his corrosion on the Constitution. An Obama Presidency would see several SCOTUS appointments, positions which Obama would fill with liberal nitwits and insure that the SCOTUS is firmly liberal for possibly decades to come. As already pointed out, there have already been some 5-4 decisions that barely went the right way. Several decades of a liberal SCOTUS would likely decimate our Constitution, and you had better believe that banning guns would be a high priority of a liberal court.
Secondly, Obama would let liberal gun bills pass without veto. If there is a Democrat controlled house and/or Senate, it will be even easier for the kooks to pass anti-gun legislation.
As far as people being "uncomfortable" with guns... you really need to address that spirit of fear in your life. As pointed out already, when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. This is proven fact. On the other hand, when responsible citizens are armed, they do things like save over 100 innocent people from being killed by a bad guy.
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Did anyone else get chills reading about the heroic actions of this woman, Jeanne Assam? A woman, fresh from a three day fast, in which she prayed to God for guidence in choosing a career path, was thrown right into the path of this mad-dog killer:
Amid deafening cracks of gunfire, smoke-spewing canisters and the flight of thousands of New Life Church members, Jeanne Assam said she suddenly saw the hallways clear and a gunman come through the door.
“I took cover. I identified myself. I engaged him. I took him down,” the 42-year-old former law officer and volunteer church security guard said Monday at a news conference in the Colorado Springs police station. “I just said, ‘Holy Spirit, be with me.’ I wasn’t even shaking,” Assam said. “I give the credit to God. I say this very humbly. God was with me.”
The Paster called her “a real hero”.
“When the shots were fired, she rushed toward the scene and encountered the attacker there in a hallway. He never got more than 50 feet inside our building,” he said. “There could have been a great loss of life yesterday, and she probably saved over 100 lives.”
So when the bogeyman comes knocking down your door and wants to rape your wife and daughters, go ahead and offer him tea and crumpets. In the mean time, I hope you have a patriotic Christ-like neighbor with a 12 gauge that can hear your screams for help.
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"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed." - 2nd Peter 3:10
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