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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/29/2008 10:43:37 PM
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charlotte123
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Question about Genesis days.
I am still not clear on that. I don't see any reason for them to be anything other than a regular 24 hour day. So it does seem to reason that a day means a day and that's it.
In your opinion, do you think that it is possible that the literal day interpretation could be wrong?
And does it matter either way as long as we acknowledge that the Word is inerrant and we just don't know how many days God means?
I think on this issue (I haven't decided yet what view I think is correct) that I might just have to say I know God made the universe and everything in it. He could have made it in how ever many days He saw fit. I don't know how many days it was, but the events described were indeed carried out just as God says they were in His Word and no matter what theory is widely accepted, if it contradicts His Word, it's wrong.
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 8:21:29 AM
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Day means day. God doesnt lie.
An evening and a morning is a day.
Its truly funny(lol) how the old earthers twist this to fit THEIR belief. When it should fit GOD's truth!
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 10:14:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: charlotte123 quote:
Question about Genesis days.
I am still not clear on that. I don't see any reason for them to be anything other than a regular 24 hour day. So it does seem to reason that a day means a day and that's it. … And does it matter either way as long as we acknowledge that the Word is inerrant and we just don't know how many days God means?
While the length of the Genesis day and the age of the earth are not “major” doctrines, i.e. they don’t deal with salvation, all doctrine is important.
Here is an article that may clear up your understanding of the issue.
“Dr Ting Wang earned his M.Div. from Westminster Theological Seminary in California (Escondido) and his doctorate in Biblical Studies at the Hebrew Union College, Jewish Institute of Religion (Cincinnati, Ohio). He now lectures on biblical Hebrew at Stanford University in California,1 and is a pastor for the Youth and Children’s Ministries at Korean Central Presbyterian Church. Dr Wang is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature and the National Association of Professors of Hebrew. He has also been a college instructor in biblical and classical Greek.” - http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i4/Wang.asp
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 10:19:24 AM
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DanJames
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ORIGINAL: charlotte123
Question about Genesis days.
I am still not clear on that. I don't see any reason for them to be anything other than a regular 24 hour day. So it does seem to reason that a day means a day and that's it.
In your opinion, do you think that it is possible that the literal day interpretation could be wrong?
And does it matter either way as long as we acknowledge that the Word is inerrant and we just don't know how many days God means?
I think on this issue (I haven't decided yet what view I think is correct) that I might just have to say I know God made the universe and everything in it. He could have made it in how ever many days He saw fit. I don't know how many days it was, but the events described were indeed carried out just as God says they were in His Word and no matter what theory is widely accepted, if it contradicts His Word, it's wrong.
You're not the only person with this question. In fact, I'd say that most people start questioning the word "day" as soon as they start questioning the contradictions between popular theories and the Genesis account. It's a tough time to be the word "day".
You were correct when you said that the days were days. For whatever reason, God made the planet in a manner that could not have taken millions of years to do. As our more recent member KaseyTom has already pointed out, the plants could not have survived for millions of years waiting for the sun to be formed, yet that's what would have had to have happened if the first chapter of Genesis took a long time. And NO evolutionist is going to say that the sun was formed after plants (to include seeding plants). That's one reason that they couldn't have been millions of years. Most Old Earth Christians on this forum have moved beyond claiming that the days were millions of years, and have started believing that the Genesis account really tells us nothing at all about how God did his creation except that God was the agent of creation.
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 10:38:29 AM
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DanJames
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That's not what I said, and it's not what I meant to say. If you ask 100 people with doctorates in physics about relativity, you'll get 99 who accept it and one who doesn't. The same is true in geology and the age of the earth. Most experts agree it is old. Apart from preconceived theological biases, why should one prefer the tiny minority position when you examine the positions of knowledgeable experts?
I don't think the minority is as small as 1 to 100, but I suppose to answer your question, I would say that we should not discount the minority position because it's sometimes correct.
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 12:15:11 PM
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essentialsaltes
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ORIGINAL: essentialsaltes
That's not what I said, and it's not what I meant to say. If you ask 100 people with doctorates in physics about relativity, you'll get 99 who accept it and one who doesn't. The same is true in geology and the age of the earth. Most experts agree it is old. Apart from preconceived theological biases, why should one prefer the tiny minority position when you examine the positions of knowledgeable experts?
I don't think the minority is as small as 1 to 100, but I suppose to answer your question, I would say that we should not discount the minority position because it's sometimes correct.
Of course. Every advance in science comes about by one scientist finding some new evidence and/or providing a different explanation. But the people who are best able to determine whether that new idea has merit or not are the experts.
(I expect the proportion of young earth geologists with degrees in geology is much smaller than 1%.)
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RE: Help my apologetics - 9/30/2008 12:51:13 PM
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