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Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 4:20:54 PM
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enterprise1701
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Check out the articles "FOCA -- A Blank Check for Pro-Abortionists" at: http://www.nrlc.org/News_and_Views/Sept08/nv091908part2.html and "Obama's opposition to DOMA" at: http://www.baptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=24618
Christians must understand that as citizens, we hold a civic responsibility to participate in the formation of our nation's future and the future of our children. But as Christians, we also hold a moral responsibility to consider the ethical consequences of our decisions in the voting booth. This means that the right to life, which traditional marriage is conected to, trumps all other issues, because without life, issues of econonomics, war, healthcare, and education cannot be solved.
I believe McCain and Palin must be elected!
Your thoughts?
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 7:31:53 PM
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My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 7:36:05 PM
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My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Interesting viewpoint. It's so refreshing to hear sound arguments that don't use vicious labels such as murderer and non-Christian. *deep breath*
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 7:46:23 PM
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(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
Actually considering California's current stance on gay marriage, and the fact that the Democrats have a majority in Congress, DOMA is a very big issue this election.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 8:02:35 PM
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tacitus
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Not for the Presidential election (have you heard either candidate even mention it? I haven't.) If you're talking about Congressional elections then I am sure some individual Republican candidates will try to make it an issue in conservative areas, but they will be sailing into the financial industry bailout hurricane for the next month. When people are worried about their 401ks being chopped in half, I doubt DOMA even registers, especially when it's just about a given that the Republicans will almost certainly lose ground in both houses in this election.
Prop 8 will be a high-profile battle, but only in California. If Obama succeeds in drawing out the under-30s to vote, the result won't be close. Even if he doesn't, signs are that the proposition won't pass anyway. Like it or not, I believe gay marriage is here to stay in California.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 8:06:34 PM
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Not for the Presidential election (have you heard either candidate even mention it? I haven't.) If you're talking about Congressional elections then I am sure some individual Republican candidates will try to make it an issue in conservative areas, but they will be sailing into the financial industry bailout hurricane for the next month. When people are worried about their 401ks being chopped in half, I doubt DOMA even registers, especially when it's just about a given that the Republicans will almost certainly lose ground in both houses in this election.
Prop 8 will be a high-profile battle, but only in California. If Obama succeeds in drawing out the under-30s to vote, the result won't be close. Even if he doesn't, signs are that the proposition won't pass anyway. Like it or not, I believe gay marriage is here to stay in California.
I think you are confusing 'being obscured' with 'not an issue' - while it is certainly being obscured by the state of the economy, that doesn't mean it is an issue that shouldn't be considered given Obama's tacit if not overt support for gay marriage.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/29/2008 8:14:21 PM
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Well, sure. If you believe DOMA is that important then it will always be an issue. However, as an issue for drumming up a majority for McCain/Palin in this election, as per the OP, is pretty much a non-starter. Those who are still paying attention to culture war issues like DOMA are already behind McCain because of Palin. If McCain wins, it will be because of some other unrelated issue.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 12:07:40 AM
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My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Obama argued that it was unconstitutional to provide life sustaining health care to a baby that survived an attempt on her life. In his sick mind, it is against the law to care for such a child. It's the BO entitlement program, you're entitled to a dead baby.
His gives two evil justifications.
1) She's not a baby. She's a fetus. (Fetus means target of extermination.)
2) The fetus is not viable. He assigns this determination to the baby killer who was paid to murder her.
BO is a sick man. It's not enough for him to have children torn apart limb from limb. It's not enough to disembowel them. It's not enough to stab them in the skull and suck their brains out. No, we also got to kill them if they somehow manage to escape the first attempt on their murder.
BO's death care plan
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 12:55:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: tacitus
My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Obama argued that it was unconstitutional to provide life sustaining health care to a baby that survived an attempt on her life. In his sick mind, it is against the law to care for such a child. It's the BO entitlement program, you're entitled to a dead baby.
His gives two evil justifications.
1) She's not a baby. She's a fetus. (Fetus means target of extermination.)
2) The fetus is not viable. He assigns this determination to the baby killer who was paid to murder her.
BO is a sick man. It's not enough for him to have children torn apart limb from limb. It's not enough to disembowel them. It's not enough to stab them in the skull and suck their brains out. No, we also got to kill them if they somehow manage to escape the first attempt on their murder.
BO's death care plan
You are a conservative. No reasonable person expects a conservative person to vote for a liberal candidate. I don't understand why this is being so magnified in this election. I have never before heard people come out so hard against a candidate that they'd never vote for in the first place. Do your McCain/Palin thing. Why belabor the point? You don't agree with his views. We get it.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 1:01:11 AM
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ORIGINAL: tacitus
My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Obama argued that it was unconstitutional to provide life sustaining health care to a baby that survived an attempt on her life. In his sick mind, it is against the law to care for such a child. It's the BO entitlement program, you're entitled to a dead baby.
His gives two evil justifications.
1) She's not a baby. She's a fetus. (Fetus means target of extermination.)
2) The fetus is not viable. He assigns this determination to the baby killer who was paid to murder her.
BO is a sick man. It's not enough for him to have children torn apart limb from limb. It's not enough to disembowel them. It's not enough to stab them in the skull and suck their brains out. No, we also got to kill them if they somehow manage to escape the first attempt on their murder.
BO's death care plan
You are a conservative. No reasonable person expects a conservative person to vote for a liberal candidate. I don't understand why this is being so magnified in this election. I have never before heard people come out so hard against a candidate that they'd never vote for in the first place. Do your McCain/Palin thing. Why belabor the point? You don't agree with his views. We get it.
I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 1:22:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: tacitus
My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Obama argued that it was unconstitutional to provide life sustaining health care to a baby that survived an attempt on her life. In his sick mind, it is against the law to care for such a child. It's the BO entitlement program, you're entitled to a dead baby.
His gives two evil justifications.
1) She's not a baby. She's a fetus. (Fetus means target of extermination.)
2) The fetus is not viable. He assigns this determination to the baby killer who was paid to murder her.
BO is a sick man. It's not enough for him to have children torn apart limb from limb. It's not enough to disembowel them. It's not enough to stab them in the skull and suck their brains out. No, we also got to kill them if they somehow manage to escape the first attempt on their murder.
BO's death care plan
You are a conservative. No reasonable person expects a conservative person to vote for a liberal candidate. I don't understand why this is being so magnified in this election. I have never before heard people come out so hard against a candidate that they'd never vote for in the first place. Do your McCain/Palin thing. Why belabor the point? You don't agree with his views. We get it.
I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
You have one vote. Use it. Or will you feel like God has forsaken you if Obama wins the White House? Will you feel like all of a sudden God is no longer in control? Calm down. You can be as graphic as you want to be in your description. You still have one vote. All of the drama and histrionics aren't going to pursuade people who have made up their minds.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 1:47:03 AM
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I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
Wish that passion could go to some babies that are here now. Starving to death.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 1:58:34 AM
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You have one vote. Use it. Or will you feel like God has forsaken you if Obama wins the White House? Will you feel like all of a sudden God is no longer in control? Calm down. You can be as graphic as you want to be in your description. You still have one vote. All of the drama and histrionics aren't going to pursuade people who have made up their minds.
True, but of course those who support the murder of the unborn will have to answer for it... And sadly for their sake the more it's entrenched in their minds the less likely they will shed it... God will not forsake His, though the thoughts of the wicked are far from Him, their sacrifices, evil... Even their tender mercies are sinful...
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 12:16:33 PM
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I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
Wish that passion could go to some babies that are here now. Starving to death.
If starvation were an abortion method, BO would support it without reservation.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 12:17:33 PM
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I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
Wish that passion could go to some babies that are here now. Starving to death.
If starvation were an abortion method, BO would support it without reservation.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 12:19:36 PM
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My thoughts are that
(a) Anti-abortionists are overplaying the "Obama supports infanticide" claims. No matter how justified they think this claim is given Obama's votes in the Illinois legislature, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who now thinking of voting for Obama believe that such claims are just outlandish. Only those who already oppose Obama on grounds of abortion will believe them and the end result is that such claims might even help insulate him from attacks by pro-life groups.
(b) DOMA isn't an issue in this election. McCain isn't at all energized by the issue of gay marriage and Obama's personal view on gay marriage isn't very different from McCain's anyway, so it's not likely to become an issue. Outside the Republican base, which is already backing McCain because he added Palin to the ticket, there is virtually no support for DOMA anyway.
I don't doubt your passion for these issues, but with economic woes taking all the headlines, this election will probably not be revolve around the social issues the religious right holds dear.
Obama argued that it was unconstitutional to provide life sustaining health care to a baby that survived an attempt on her life. In his sick mind, it is against the law to care for such a child. It's the BO entitlement program, you're entitled to a dead baby.
His gives two evil justifications.
1) She's not a baby. She's a fetus. (Fetus means target of extermination.)
2) The fetus is not viable. He assigns this determination to the baby killer who was paid to murder her.
BO is a sick man. It's not enough for him to have children torn apart limb from limb. It's not enough to disembowel them. It's not enough to stab them in the skull and suck their brains out. No, we also got to kill them if they somehow manage to escape the first attempt on their murder.
BO's death care plan
You are a conservative. No reasonable person expects a conservative person to vote for a liberal candidate. I don't understand why this is being so magnified in this election. I have never before heard people come out so hard against a candidate that they'd never vote for in the first place. Do your McCain/Palin thing. Why belabor the point? You don't agree with his views. We get it.
I don't want such a sick person leading America. He's not satisfied with dismembering babies. Nor with decapitating them. Nor with disemboweling them or sucking their brains out during birth. That's not enough. He wants to kill them after they're born.
You have one vote. Use it. Or will you feel like God has forsaken you if Obama wins the White House? Will you feel like all of a sudden God is no longer in control? Calm down. You can be as graphic as you want to be in your description. You still have one vote. All of the drama and histrionics aren't going to pursuade people who have made up their minds.
There is purpose in exposing brutality. As long as it remains hidden people will remain confortable with their ignorance. Does that describe you?
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 2:43:14 PM
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If any baby or child is starving then the parents should be charged with child abuse. There are abundant resources out there for families in need. If the child is 5 and under there is WIC which is based on nutritional needs not income. Of course there are food stamps if the family meets the income requirment. There are many non-profits and church organizations that provide food too such as Second Harvest. That argument just doesn't wash.
Africa has WIC, wow, I didnt know that.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 2:47:48 PM
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I was talking about here. Africa's leaders need to stop with the tribal wars and put their people's needs first. How much of the billions of dollars given year in and year out actually get to the people who need it most? Evidently not much. I still remember the tons of rotting food on the wharves in Ethiopia during the famine. It wasn't because of a lack of food or the lack of people caring but the corruption of the government.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 2:52:20 PM
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I was talking about here. Africa's leaders need to stop with the tribal wars and put their people's needs first. How much of the billions of dollars given year in and year out actually get to the people who need it most? Evidently not much. I still remember the tons of rotting food on the wharves in Ethiopia during the famine. It wasn't because of a lack of food or the lack of people caring but the corruption of the government.
First Africa is 55 countires. Ethiopia is one. Ok, food rotted there years ago. What you got for the other 54?
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 3:00:30 PM
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It was simply one example of the problem. The world has been throwing money at Africa for years now and very few countries have improved because of the types of governments in charge. Throwing money on a situation isn't always the best answer.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 3:16:19 PM
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It was simply one example of the problem. The world has been throwing money at Africa for years now and very few countries have improved because of the types of governments in charge. Throwing money on a situation isn't always the best answer.
Throwing money at?
Your suppose to love them!! Helloooo...
Also can America give back what she has stolen from Africa?
Exo 12:35 And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment:
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StephK,
How are you? How is Louisiana where you live now? People ok there? My people from Monroe, Alto, Sugar Hill, Rayville,
Where your people from?
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 3:23:51 PM
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Again my point is that unless the corrupt governments are dealt with then no amount of money will be beneficial to the people in need and who the money is intended for. It isn't that people don't care, it's just that rewarding crooks isn't the solution.
As far as how things are in my neck of the woods, things are going pretty well after Ike. I'm in Lake Charles.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 5:35:34 PM
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I was talking about here. Africa's leaders need to stop with the tribal wars and put their people's needs first. How much of the billions of dollars given year in and year out actually get to the people who need it most? Evidently not much. I still remember the tons of rotting food on the wharves in Ethiopia during the famine. It wasn't because of a lack of food or the lack of people caring but the corruption of the government.
First Africa is 55 countires. Ethiopia is one. Ok, food rotted there years ago. What you got for the other 54?
George Obama, BO's brother, lives in Africa. In a disease and crime infested slum. BO has never lifted a finger to help him. BO lives in a mansion. It costs more than $11k for nursery school where his children go.
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RE: Obama on life and marriage - 9/30/2008 5:40:02 PM
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I was talking about here. Africa's leaders need to stop with the tribal wars and put their people's needs first. How much of the billions of dollars given year in and year out actually get to the people who need it most? Evidently not much. I still remember the tons of rotting food on the wharves in Ethiopia during the famine. It wasn't because of a lack of food or the lack of people caring but the corruption of the government.
First Africa is 55 countires. Ethiopia is one. Ok, food rotted there years ago. What you got for the other 54?
What is the connection with fighting the murder of 3500 unborn children here in the United States with people in Africa letting children starve... If you have passion for those starving I suggest you go to the source first... Berating folks here for what people do to each in other in Africa ignores the root problem, that being the people of Africa... I wouldn't look to Africa for the solution in regards to the murder of the unborn in the United States...
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John
Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
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