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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/4/2008 4:59:22 PM   
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Cynthia,

I ran across that book years ago when I was doing so much research on dyslexia. It was such a lift to read it. It literally helped me think of it as an edge instead of a handicap.

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/4/2008 5:06:11 PM   
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Cynthia,

I ran across that book years ago when I was doing so much research on dyslexia. It was such a lift to read it. It literally helped me think of it as an edge instead of a handicap.

Once a person gets over the hurdle of being able to read well, I don't think it remains a real hinderance. My husband was never diagnosed with dyslexia, but when I was studying it for MM, he fit the criteria. He mostly reads news and technical manuals. They used to call him McGyver, because he can figure out anything. He is really smart. He is not a fast reader and not a very good speller, but he is doing great at his job, because his job focuses on what he is good at. He works with a lot of old buildings and is able to save the goverment money on projects where he can fabricate something rather than spending sometimes thousands of dollars to have a part made.

A person doesn't have to be a fast reader to be successful. However, when they are a child and trying to get the hang of reading, it can be a major frustration and problem.

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/4/2008 11:21:20 PM   
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I really do feel better about his overall improvement but to have so many problems last week and again this morning was a let down- not for him just me. I am worried that he may have dyslexia- something my older brother has- but I am so afraid of testing him for fear he will loose confidence. It's like a big roller coaster, one day we're up and he's read a book and the next day he's sounding out "cat". It's a big help just knowing there are other folk with normal children that have had this same issue.

Thank God he is not in public school!!!!

I think testing him will give him confidence...he and you will understand WHY this is such a struggle for him..and he can overcome it!

I think of Henry Winkler (the Fonz)...he struggled to read for years (even when playing the Fonz!) and then his own son was diagnosed as dyslexic when the boy was in the first grade...and it clicked for Mr. Winkler..."hey...that's me....I'm not stupid...my brain just needs to learn a different way!!!". He has said that it would have made all the difference in the world to him had he known he wasn't stupid, but unique.

Get him tested.....it will help him and you. You can't teach him (and he can't learn) until you know HOW to teach him..and it may be he needs to be taught a different way due to unique wirinng up there. It isn't abnormal...it is unique.

Keep in mind that several GREAT inventors, mathmaticians, etc were dyslexic or suffered from other learning disabilities. Here are a few just as point in interest:

Thomas Edison
Albert Einstein
Leonardo DaVinci
Alexandar Graham Bell
Hans Christian Anderson
Galileo

The point being...a learning disability is easier to deal with when one knows WHY your brain is not learning like everyone else.

Kind of like trying to treat a chronic cough without finding out what is causing it.

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/5/2008 8:56:43 AM   
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I just wanted to come in here and encourage you. It sounds like you got a lot of suggestions and a lot of examples to show that you are not alone!! You are NOT alone! My son is 11, but two years ago he was still struggling to read. Since his reading came slow, his spelling and writing came slow, also. Although his reading has picked up, his spelling is at a 3rd gr. level. His writing is coming along because of using copy work. So... I just wanted you to know that there are others out there. Sometimes it is hard to enjoy the forest through the trees, but try to enjoy and soak in every moment. It sounds like you have been patient through it all~! That is great!!! My firstborn also struggled and I was more worried about it than patient. By the time ds came along, my worry was less and my patience was more and it made a huge difference in self esteem and confidence in my son. I read somewhere that if kids/parents keep working with a struggling reader, that around age 12-14 most kids are about equal and even out. They all kind of catch up with each other. I don't know if this is really true or not, but it gave me encouragement at the time.

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/7/2008 12:04:14 PM   
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Hello all!! Just got back from a brief vacation (first one we've had in years). We are also in the middle of The Great Semi-Annual Clothes Swap and I'm covered up with laundry So it will take me some time to read and to answer everyone.

Something that I noticed just this last week is a change in ds desire to read. He was given a gift by a family friend and he wanted to write a "Thank You" note. He spent about 20 minutes writing and asking how to spell words. I was thrilled!! This was totally his own idea!!

Keeping these posts in mind I have asked him about HOW he sees the letters. Asked if they move, change or blur while he's reading and he said "no". The problem seems to be more in how he is hearing them if that makes since. It's like his brain is not hearing or processing the sounds. His short term memory is not holding them... well that's how it seems to me- laywomen extraordinaire

I purchased a used copy of The Learning Disability Myth on line and it should arrive by the week end.

Math U See was a purchase we made BECAUSE of ds. He had to "see" it and hold it. He went much faster and liked math a lot until I started making him read... Ugh, what a dummy I am!

Spelling is not something I've pushed with him. I wanted it to come from his writing but we just haven't gotten that far. However, when he does write he can spell words BETTER than he can read them, not great but better.

The laundry calls.....

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/7/2008 1:18:50 PM   
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I'm glad you bought that book. It ought to be a lot of help in getting to the bottom of this. No more guessing.

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/10/2008 9:06:13 PM   
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I've noticed that my youngest son spells well also -- but really struggles with reading. He'll be 11 in November and has only in the past 6 months really started to desire to read. I bought him a series by Gary Paulsen (the Tuckett series) and he was hooked! We read outloud a lot and I quit requiring him to read any subject other than "reading" ages ago.

We came to grips with his dyslexia several years ago and don't really count it as a disability. A challenge, yes, but he is in no way disabled.

One book that Andrew found really encouraging when we read it out loud a couple of years ago was "Brother David -- God's Smuggler to China". We had read the Brother Andrew books and I knew nothing about this title other than the fact that David was a missionary to China after the fashion of Brother Andrew. That was enough for me! What I was to discover was that David was an adult who had struggled with dyslexia all his life (through the 70s when he was labeled "remedial" and sent to special ed). He had never been able to study the Word, because he just couldn't read it.

That book reminded us to pray for Andrew's dyslexia -- not that it would "go away" but that the enemy wouldn't use it to hinder Andrew from reading the Bible. Since then, I've seen great headway in his reading -- especially in his Bible reading time. We serve a big God, right?

SO -- don't forget to pray!!!

I've been encouraged reading all these posts! OK, skimming all these posts. It's good to remember that we're not alone!!!

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/13/2008 11:56:35 AM   
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Math U See was a purchase we made BECAUSE of ds. He had to "see" it and hold it. He went much faster and liked math a lot until I started making him read... Ugh, what a dummy I am!


You are NOT a dummy. You may be on to something here, too! Maybe you could let him see and hold words, too! We used Rod and Staff Publishers for reading when Ds started to read. There was a LOT of cut and paste in those books. (ds had ALL kinds of problems in math until we switched to Math U See.) We also used letter card games.
Maybe your Ds could use magazines and cut out letters and words, etc. and make a story or posters. You could also get Scrabble or a game like that and let him use the letter cubes.. It's worth a try!

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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/22/2008 3:40:06 AM   
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Hi! I apologize if I am just thinking and writing what someone else already has. I read the first page of posts.

Every child is different with different challenges! It is perfectly fine to be nine and just reading books that are labeled "Second grade." It is irrelevant. Enjoying the progress and the content of the reading is so much more important.

My daughter is somewhat the inverse of what you are experiencing with your son. Reading and spelling having been a breeze for her. As far as prescribed "reading levels" (I don't think we should care much about them), she is reading on a seventh grade level.

She is 10 and we are working on learning multiplication and division facts. I have had to cope with her feeling anxious quite easily with math. This Fall she forgot what division is and became upset immediately. As soon as she was receptive, we went to the kitchen table and got out some Lego blocks to play with division in an on-hands manner. She remembered almost right away. Thing is, it is hard for me to not react to her getting so upset instead of just calmly asking for help. Math was easy with her three brothers and it is irritating to feel like we are not moving forward. We are though because I can see that her thinking is growing better from time to time. We do word problems more than problems with only numbers because it is easier for her and doesn't cause the confusion and anxiety for her.

She simply finds it much harder to think mathematically and challenges my patience so I have a few long-term goals but I don't allow myself to schedule and plan her math from day to day. Been there, done that. It only made me less patient with her and made me feel that I was failing at teaching her math.

If I was in your shoes, I believe I would take a book like A-Beka's Reading Handbook and work through it, along with what I was already doing. I would have him read it aloud and even read some aloud to him. We might go through the book more than once. Phonics tapes and videos...something he has to listen to and maybe follow along in a book or even write down the words as he listens to them.

Remember that you have the huge advantage of being able to be there with your child to tutor and support him personally. You are already helping him more than a busy public school would be able to do. Try to find ways to enjoy language with him as much as you can.
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RE: Reading problems with son - 10/22/2008 7:48:32 AM   
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My ds4 is 10yo and just started enjoying reading. Before that, it was a chore. He was leaps and bounds "ahead" in everything else. Just not reading. Part of it was he wasn't interested. Part of it I think he wasn't ready. Now, I give him his library books as a reward for finishing his school work.

his_chosen has a very good point. There were a couple of HS pioneers called the Moores. They both had doctorates in education and were involved with a lot of educational research. One of the things that they discovered was that it was quite common for boys in particular to be delayed until the age of nine or ten before reading. They discovered that attempting to "push" reading before this natural time often caused problems instead of solving them.
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RE: Reading problems with son - 11/3/2008 12:02:49 PM   
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Hi all! Wanted to give an update.

The Learning Disability Myth should be read by everyone! Loved it and am passing it on to a friend.

You know we see all that stuff about "wait till they're 9 to teach reading" and we say great idea BUT when it comes to our child we panic Our little cherub falls behind, the other moms at co-op point it out, our families point it out and we feel like failures.

Well I can believe, and not just say, that it IS okay to wait!

Over the last few months my son has made great progress! Today he completed 3 pages from a grade 2 workbook in under 20 minutes with very little help from me! and only at the very end did he start to become a little frustrated!! Now I know this doesn't mean all smooth roads ahead but I do think we've passed over a big hurdle and I'm very excited!!

In my search for an inexpensive Scrabble game I ran across another game called Equate. It's just like Scrabble only with numbers and math signs. You can get extra tiles for Equate Jr or Equate Advanced. I'd get these for Christmas but "math gift" seems like an oximoron.


Thanks for all the great help!

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RE: Reading problems with son - 11/7/2008 8:58:27 PM   
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Hi Friends

I am considering homeschooling for next year and looking at different options. As I was glancing at the posts, this thread caught my eye.

ConsiderHim-my youngest son has struggled with reading for a very long time and was initially diagnosed with a learning disability related to vision. Praise God for the school psychologist that recommended getting him tested by a pediatric opthamologist in a nearby community. My son's eyes were not working together and he had difficulty focusing back and forth from near to far, and also had difficulty tracking left to right. He wouldn't remember words he just read and the words were floating around the page. We went through months of vision therapy and now my son is playing catch-up with reading skills.

I'm so thankful for how vision therapy has helped us! I reccomend having your child tested by a PEDIATRIC OPTHAMOLOGIST. The types of tests done are not done by a typical optometrist. Snellen charts don't catch these problems. (imo- I think these tests shouls be part of standard school screenings now-so many kids fall through the cracks)

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