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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 10:55:59 PM
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I have heard some moms who have a lot of boys or girls get very upset when people ask so are you going to keep trying until you get your boy or girl. They hate that because to so many parents it is not about I want a __. It is about how much they want a child.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 8:02:47 AM
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I only have 1 boy, and it annoyed me too that everyone was assuming I'd be hoping for a little girl this time. I actually thought a little brother for Nathan would've been great, but I'm adjusting to the idea of a little Elizabeth and not a little Joshua.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 8:49:36 AM
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I'd love to have at least one little girl, but I've started telling people that what I really want is 10 boys. 'Cause wouldn't that be a pile of fun?
Then you could have your own baseball team! What fun!!!! It was funny to find out that people were REALLY excited for us when we found out we were having a boy, and they assumed that we were hoping for one. (We have 1 boy and 3 girls.) My son wanted a brother, but he is already 8 - there are virtually no clothes to pass down, and it's not like he will have an instant football buddy. I was fine with either, but I will miss the pretty little dresses!
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 8:55:12 AM
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I think that as long as you can love and care for the child regardless of the sex it is no ones business but your own how and why you choose to grow your family.
I wouldn't have brought it up, but you asked. I only have that belief in principle. I don't go around barking that to individual people or couples. And I have known people that have actually admitted to me NOT loving the child because it wasn't the gender they had hoped for, and that is sad.
That is just sad but not all people feel that way.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 10:14:53 AM
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Aunt Jodi is not happy. Read the blog [url=http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/]Here[/here]
I have not watched the shows but the people I talk to who do say the mother is not really a nice person. One person said how Aunt Jodi watched all of the children all day long for free but when mom gets home aunt Jodi gets no thank you but a lecture about chewing gum. She also threw away one of the kids favorite teddy bears because it had gum on it. Geesh all you have to do is freeze it to get the gum off.
I just want to point out that in the show Kate ended up not throwing the bear away because her son was so upset over it. She threw a temper tantrum over it and threatened to but didn't. She has her issues, but she has a heart.
I haven't seen them all, but I have seen that episode.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 12:21:21 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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Either way, I still don't think it's right to have a bio. child JUST to try for a boy or a girl.
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I think that as long as you can love and care for the child regardless of the sex it is no ones business but your own how and why you choose to grow your family.
I wouldn't have brought it up, but you asked. I only have that belief in principle. I don't go around barking that to individual people or couples. And I have known people that have actually admitted to me NOT loving the child because it wasn't the gender they had hoped for, and that is sad.
That is just sad but not all people feel that way.
True, but you did admit in the Duggar thread that your sister's oldest became more of a mom at times to the siblings than your sister had. You said:
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This is true in any family. My sister has 6 kids the oldest is 20 yrs the youngest 6. My niece has been momma as much as if not more at times than my sister. She is now being berated (sp) by her 16 and 14 yr old sister because she left to go to college this year. They tell her she is betraying the family and abandoning them. Sad. She has health issues from the stress.
So, was it really right for your sister to keep trying for a boy, when that's what it did to her oldest? I have no problem with 6 kids..but the parents need to be the parents..and if they have more kids than they can be a parent to, then there is a problem..if a parent can have 6, and stay the parents, great..if after 3, they think they're gonna start turning the parenting over to the older kids, then it is either time to stop having kids, or time to hire some help.
Topic: Kate should not have done what she did with the bear. However, I remember a couple of times when I taught pre school not always handling a situation as I should, and having to repent later. Sometimes, it is easy to get stressed out when you have 1 teacher to 12 little ones. So, while I don't agree with what she said, as someone who knows what it's like to be outnumbered by little ones, I kind of understand. Granted, I don't think GUM is something to freak out over, but that's really another thread.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 12:44:34 PM
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Granted, I don't think GUM is something to freak out over, but that's really another thread.
I have a child who has gum in her hair at least 39 times. I freak out when I see gum in any form in my house. I bet Kate has had similar experiences. 
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 1:31:38 PM
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However, I remember a couple of times when I taught pre school not always handling a situation as I should,
To be honest, it was MANY times, not just a couple.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 2:50:40 PM
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True, but you did admit in the Duggar thread that your sister's oldest became more of a mom at times to the siblings than your sister had. You said:
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This is true in any family. My sister has 6 kids the oldest is 20 yrs the youngest 6. My niece has been momma as much as if not more at times than my sister. She is now being berated (sp) by her 16 and 14 yr old sister because she left to go to college this year. They tell her she is betraying the family and abandoning them. Sad. She has health issues from the stress.
So, was it really right for your sister to keep trying for a boy, when that's what it did to her oldest? I have no problem with 6 kids..but the parents need to be the parents..and if they have more kids than they can be a parent to, then there is a problem..if a parent can have 6, and stay the parents, great..if after 3, they think they're gonna start turning the parenting over to the older kids, then it is either time to stop having kids, or time to hire some help.
Reread what you quoted. You are taking it out of context.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 4:03:53 PM
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I had wondered where Jodi went to and now I guess we know.
I really liked watching the show when the sextuplets were younger. They seemed to show more of the day to day things they do. Now it seems like they show all their trips or cover shoots for the latest magazine. I watched last nights episode and I really was starting to feel for the kids, especially the older girls. You could clearly see they didn't want to be doing that and I wonder if they are beginning to get tired of all the cameras and busyness.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 4:29:23 PM
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I wonder how much the cameras, etc. are actually there though? Do they film once a week, once a month? It doesn't seem there are enough episodes for it to be too often, but I do think the older girls might get a little sick of it soon... however, they get a lot of help from people who see the show - with 8 kids I guess you have to keep that in mind.
The gum episode - I thought it seemed a bit harsh while the little boy was crying over her threat, but the whole time she was threatening she was actually washing off the bear.  There was also gum on the kids' socks, etc. With 8 kids that young I could see how you'd snap occasionally.
In their defense, I think they are very affectionate and loving with the kids - lots of hugs and they make sure that each gets their individual attention whenever possible.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 5:07:16 PM
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True, but you did admit in the Duggar thread that your sister's oldest became more of a mom at times to the siblings than your sister had. You said:
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This is true in any family. My sister has 6 kids the oldest is 20 yrs the youngest 6. My niece has been momma as much as if not more at times than my sister. She is now being berated (sp) by her 16 and 14 yr old sister because she left to go to college this year. They tell her she is betraying the family and abandoning them. Sad. She has health issues from the stress.
So, was it really right for your sister to keep trying for a boy, when that's what it did to her oldest? I have no problem with 6 kids..but the parents need to be the parents..and if they have more kids than they can be a parent to, then there is a problem..if a parent can have 6, and stay the parents, great..if after 3, they think they're gonna start turning the parenting over to the older kids, then it is either time to stop having kids, or time to hire some help.
Reread what you quoted. You are taking it out of context.
If I put the pieces together in backwards order..
1. Your niece has health issues.
2. She has health issues because the 2 sisters after her in age feel betrayed because your niece is leaving for college.
3.They feel that way because she became 2nd mom to them.
4.She became 2nd mom because there were 6 children.
5. There were 6 children because your sister kept trying for a boy.
Therefore, if you take out all the middle steps, your niece has suffered because your sister kept trying for a boy. I don't think that is taking anything out of context. However, I am really not trying to personally attack your sister..as personal attacks are against TOS anyway. But you asked if I thought it was wrong to have a child just for the gender, and you used your sister as an example. And the answer is yes, I do think it is wrong to have a child just for the gender. However, I would have said that was how I felt whether you had brought up your sister or not. I have felt that way ever since September 3, 1979. I was 8 years old, but it was the day my disabled sister was born. God laid it on my heart that very day that a child's gender really wasn't important, and I've felt that way ever since. So, my feelings really have nothing to do with your sister. And I have met enough adults that have issues over knowing they weren't the wanted gender to know that having a child for the gender can really cause problems.
And to bring it back to topic, I will say that I do think it is nice the Gosslins got both boys and girls, although, that was not why she went on the fertility drugs again. She went on them again because she wanted to see what it would be like to have just one baby, lol. Oh well.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 5:27:44 PM
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I think everyone is making mountains out of mole hills and judging too quickly. TV only shows a small part of their lives. Personally, I just love their show. The kids are so cute and I am amazed at how well things are considering how many kids under the age of 7 or 8. No one is perfect and haven't we all had our "Kate" moments? Their kids exhibit things that i've seen in ALOT of kids and Jon and Kate do things that I know millions of couples go through. Until we've been in their shoes, then we need to just take it easy on questioning their every move. Even if they have family problems...don't we all?
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 5:39:31 PM
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Until we've been in their shoes, then we need to just take it easy on questioning their every move.
Good point. There have been many moments in my life I sure wouldn't want a camera one me.
It's kind of funny..people aren't happy either way....they don't like that the Duggars come across as too syrupy sweet, and aren't up front about problems..and yet here are Jon and Kate very open book, and not hiding their problems at all, and people don't like that either.
Oh, and to the poster upthread who wanted to know how often they are filmed, I believe it is 3 days a week.
I don't think Jon and Kate are bad parents or anything, but I do question their decision to not protect their children's privacy. Paul Petersen of A Minor Consideration said his main problem with these reality shows is that they are such a new concept that the children in them don't yet have laws in place for their protection as child actors do. I'll try to find the article where he talks about that.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 6:07:45 PM
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I actually like John and Kate. They aren't pretending (NOT that I think anyone else on TV is...just that some seem a bit unreal to me). I also like their dry sense of humor. Some of what people may construe as bickering may actually be just how they get along...and LIKE it! My husband and I are similar. Yes, it can get out of line sometimes, but most of the time, we are both good spiritedly poking at each other. Not everyone has that sense of humor, I know, but we do. We laugh a lot in our house.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 6:19:02 PM
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5. There were 6 children because your sister kept trying for a boy.
FYI, my sister had 4 girls boy then boy. If she was just "trying for a boy" not wanting the others she would have stopped at 5 when the first boy was born.
Back to topic though. I did not see the gum episode or tuned in for the new ones but I do like the show. Princess Donna you summed it up perfect.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 6:34:57 PM
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FYI, my sister had 4 girls boy then boy. If she was just "trying for a boy" not wanting the others she would have stopped at 5 when the first boy was born.
Well, you said upthread that she kept trying for a boy, and that she had 6 kids, which is why I got the impression the boy was the 6th..you didn't clarify that he was the 5th. And you DID say she kept trying for a boy..you SAID that..that's why I didn't realize the boy was the fifth. It still sounds like the oldest had a lot of responsibility either way.
But this is really off topic, anyway.
Topic: I'm gonna go see if I can find that Jon and Kate article by Paul Petersen.
Also, Kate says Cara and Mady are big helpers. I wonder what all they do. They are way littler than the Duggar kids that are buddies, so I'm sure they don't do quite that amount.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 6:48:11 PM
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Kate also says Hannah is a big helper, she likes to fold clothes and "momma" the other 5. It is actually really cute.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 8:01:03 PM
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Hannah is sooo cute and sweet. I want to hug her!!
I used to think that's just how they treated each other and liked it too, but I'm not so sure anymore. Nor do I necessarily believe they aren't pretending... how would we know unless we knew them in real life?
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/7/2008 11:44:01 PM
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I actually like John and Kate. They aren't pretending (NOT that I think anyone else on TV is...just that some seem a bit unreal to me). I also like their dry sense of humor. Some of what people may construe as bickering may actually be just how they get along...and LIKE it! My husband and I are similar. Yes, it can get out of line sometimes, but most of the time, we are both good spiritedly poking at each other. Not everyone has that sense of humor, I know, but we do. We laugh a lot in our house.
Donna, my husband has that sense of humor, but unfortunately I don't so that makes for some friction.
As for John and Kate, I still haven't decided what I think. I had only seen a couple episodes of it and in every one, she was totally on her husband for what seemed like everyday things that you do with kids if you are the primary caretaker which at the time, she was. She was definately not nice to him and then when she talked to the camera afterward, she continued to complain about him. After that, I just didn't even bother trying to watch it because I didn't want to.
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