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:: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 12:40:07 PM
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 12:54:17 PM
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Nah, he's just doing what the press should have done in the primaries. Had the press vetted him objectively he never would have made it through the primaries. I'm not voting for McCain because of his faith but out of the two viable candidates he is at least a competent Commander in Chief and loves this country.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 12:57:42 PM
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When did McCain claim to represent Jesus??? That's nutty.
Would it be as nutty as this?????
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McCain claims Obama is a terrorist - 10/9/2008 1:27:25 PM
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When did McCain claim to represent Jesus??? That's nutty.
I'm glad we agree that McCain is no Christian and that he was simply lying about his supposed faith during the Saddleback interview.
In MY bible, ALL Christians represent Jesus. Jesus' very words were...
In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven. Matt 5:16
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RE: McCain claims Obama's a terrorist! - 10/9/2008 1:41:15 PM
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She wasn't on the ballot during the primaries. Besides this is off topic. It's about all of 0bama's terrorist friends and I might add family.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8npeYfKI_ns&feature=related
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RE: McCain claims Obama is a terrorist - 10/9/2008 2:19:18 PM
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When did McCain claim to represent Jesus??? That's nutty.
In MY bible, ALL Christians represent Jesus. Jesus' very words were...
In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven. Matt 5:16
That verse, upon the wildest stretch of eisogesis, does not describe being a "representative" of Jesus. It's a call to exemplify certain traits.
So you like to quote scriptures at people and judge them I take it?
So would you rather McCain call Obama and his terrorist friends a "brood of vipers"? He can do that since it is the same self-criticism that Jesus used on his fellow jews the Pharisees.
I'm only facetiously saying this to play along with your silly little scripture game.
Notice how I stay on topic and you don't.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 2:57:51 PM
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"Christian" claim. Way to represent Jesus,. 
And it can even backfire all together tactics that seems desperate, agressive assault, constant character assassination..and comming from anyone..still people are used to it and see nothing extraordinary, its politics playing.
I'm getting sick and sicker of the politics and religion mix ticket all together...
Ewww...the way politics is a known dirty game tactics and to claim "x" candidate faith, christian values etc does not align to a biblical christian suppose to behave according to the bible, at least my bible.
Now, if there is a time out for christian behaviour to change, while anyone is doing a particular job etc please show me the Scriptures to prove that.
I do see hipocrisy all over and the cause is not Christ's but men's and politics of low standards.
Not buying any tickets from anyones parties much less the standards of Christianism applyed so lightly to candidates of those voting the "christian ticket".
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 3:16:20 PM
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I guess my question would be... is it the truth?
If it's the truth, then it's just as accurate to say that telling the truth is a Christian thing to do, and trying to protect people is a Christian thing to do.
Being "nice" is not necessarily a Christian thing. Jesus was not "nice" when he saw a problem. I seem to recall something about chasing people out of the Temple with whips.
Now, if it's a lie, then lying is certainly not a Christian thing to do. *shrug*
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 3:54:48 PM
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I almost can’t believe this ad would be a product of the McCain campaign. I’m hoping it will prove a forgery.
The intent of the ad is clearly to deceive the viewer to connect Barack Obama as an active supporter or participant in terrorism.
Fifty seconds of Side-by-side pictures of Barack Obama, William Ayers, and the pentagon, accompanied by ominous music, a quick photo of Bill Ayers and his wife then the narrator says ‘we know they bombed the capital, pentagon, a judges’ home’ then in big letters “I feel we didn’t do enough”, then immediately back to side-by-side photos of Barack and Wm. Ayers.
A clear case of attempting to deceive, to trick, the viewer into believing something false. Around here we can that being dishonest. In the bible its called bearing false witness, and is a sin. Why bother fighting to put the ten commandments on the courthouse lawn if you believe that its OK to break them whenever you find it convenient?
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 3:56:14 PM
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AdrianaS
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I guess my question would be... is it the truth?
If it's the truth, then it's just as accurate to say that telling the truth is a Christian thing to do, and trying to protect people is a Christian thing to do.
Being "nice" is not necessarily a Christian thing. Jesus was not "nice" when he saw a problem. I seem to recall something about chasing people out of the Temple with whips.
Now, if it's a lie, then lying is certainly not a Christian thing to do. *shrug*
We are not called to be nice but good and good according to the Bible and the God we serve is Good and Holy...
Titus 3...Doing what is good..we are to be stress about these things, as Paul said..devoting ourselves to keep doing what is good.
Now, I do not even like Mr Obama and also don't Mr McCain..still the character assassination going from the Republican candidate as shouting all kind of things that Democrat candidate is suppose to be (even when the opposite may do the same..) by a party claimimg they are representing christians etc and by using tactics that have not compatibility with christian instructions is just hipocrisy..
Now the truth about Mr Obama as all accusations wraps up and all he is accused to be is true, he is not even suppose to be running for Presidency but lock in a jail...because he is not even a US citizen to begin with...he knew and associated with the terrorist Ayers as camaradas?
I would have think the intelligence agencies did a full scrunity in any person that was a public servant before they take the job...starting by his job as Senator and than Presidential candidate..there is no scrunity going on when a person serve into place?
How come all of the sunddenly he is a terrorist also on top everything else already "accused" to be, we are on a war on terrorism and agencies did not catch the one running as candidate for President of USA? At least veto him as a candidate because of his standings?
One thing I know..the reality people pay when are accused to be something they are not guilty of, it may start with gossips and scalate, people really pay when others smear their characters. When a christian is allowed to smear anyones character ? Where is at least the proof as the notion that a person is innocent until proven guilty by court of law?
Since when Christians are suppose to behave as the world does and compromise?
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 4:50:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: AdrianaS
We are not called to be nice but good and good according to the Bible and the God we serve is Good and Holy...
Titus 3...Doing what is good..we are to be stress about these things, as Paul said..devoting ourselves to keep doing what is good.
Now, I do not even like Mr Obama and also don't Mr McCain..still the character assassination going from the Republican candidate as shouting all kind of things that Democrat candidate is suppose to be (even when the opposite may do the same..) by a party claimimg they are representing christians etc and by using tactics that have not compatibility with christian instructions is just hipocrisy..
Now the truth about Mr Obama as all accusations wraps up and all he is accused to be is true, he is not even suppose to be running for Presidency but lock in a jail...because he is not even a US citizen to begin with...he knew and associated with the terrorist Ayers as camaradas?
I would have think the intelligence agencies did a full scrunity in any person that was a public servant before they take the job...starting by his job as Senator and than Presidential candidate..there is no scrunity going on when a person serve into place?
How come all of the sunddenly he is a terrorist also on top everything else already "accused" to be, we are on a war on terrorism and agencies did not catch the one running as candidate for President of USA? At least veto him as a candidate because of his standings?
One thing I know..the reality people pay when are accused to be something they are not guilty of, it may start with gossips and scalate, people really pay when others smear their characters. When a christian is allowed to smear anyones character ? Where is at least the proof as the notion that a person is innocent until proven guilty by court of law?
Since when Christians are suppose to behave as the world does and compromise?
I agree. We can't hold these candidates and their parties as if their a religious sector, they are not, the part of the government that is for all people of all religious backgrounds. You can't expect a politician to cater to your religion or denomination. With that said, we do expect for any person we elect to have so morals (non that's affiliated with their religion or our own, because we're not in a theocracy), in that respect, politicians should be honest... including running a clean campaign. This and so many others in the past have and continue to do a lot of mudslinging and we as Christians tend to get caught up in the mix. When is ever okay for someone to make accusation about our character, we know that's not right, the Bible has taught us that. We also know that doing malicious things towards another isn't how we are supposed to treat our neighbors, but in politics it seems many put that aside.
I'm just saying the McCain ad has no real fact or tangible evidence to make such claims, a good number of their ads do and so has some of Obama's ads. Just because we see it or hear what's being slung around, doesn't make it true. I do think that McCain should stop using this particular ad or any other ad that suggests this because it's misleading and a character assassination. Both have said they are abouve attack ads, well I would love to hold each to their word.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 4:51:52 PM
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bold faced lies
Oh yes, on McCains part.
I've never heard him say that he didn't know this man or that he didn't have connections with him. Maybe I missed it.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 5:22:28 PM
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Name one terrorist among McCain's associates/mentors? Just one.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/9/2008 5:31:53 PM
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Seems like a straightforward truthful presentation of the absolute facts.
And it is easy to see why all the kool-Aid drinking follwores of the 'One" would jump sideways over the truth; the truth hurts.
Obama's histor (From High School till 3 months ago) is chucked full of communist, socialist, druggies, drug runners, felons, and other assorted scumbags.
I guess if I was hell bent on defonding him I also would be going into apoplexy.
Facts are facts and truth is truth; even if it chokes the left.
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