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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 6:38:06 PM
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earthless
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And we get more and more deflections and excuses..... what we need is more cowbell.
Or some of us need to man up.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 6:40:07 PM
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Name one terrorist among McCain's associates/mentors? Just one.
How about G. Gordon Liddy?
How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 this year.
Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."
Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?
Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history -- and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as "a prisoner of war."...
In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of b****es."
Rest of Story Here
Perhaps we should be asking McCain to explain his terrorist associations?
After the ATF and Reno roasted women and children it was more than Liddy who was thinking that, (not that I necessarily agree with them). That is what the second amendment is all about. As far as Liddy's Watergate crimes, he did pay the price. He went to jail unlike the unrepentant Ayers.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 6:47:21 PM
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After the ATF and Reno roasted women and children it was more than Liddy who was thinking that, not that I necessarily agree with them. That is what the second amendment is all about. As far as Liddy's Watergate crimes, he did pay the price. He went to jail unlike the unrepentant Ayers.
Umm but he was a terriorist none the less and is actually friendly with McCain so using the flawed analogy again of guilt by association, if he knows he and McCain really knows him, then that makes him "palling around with a terriorist" despite how long ago it was....right?? (you don't have to answer that, I know you'll find some kind of off reasoning to defend it, so it's cool) 
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 6:51:16 PM
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So there's one questionable person. That isn't the case with 0bama. It's more than Ayers.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 7:03:38 PM
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So there's one questionable person. That isn't the case with 0bama. It's more than Ayers.
No, there's more... if you can call yourself "educating" and finding every little thing about Obama, then I'm sure, if you tried, you can find other associations about McCain as I have (as noted in this thread where we can further discuss this).
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 8:18:50 PM
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He has already written two memoirs and yet we know nothing about who he really is....
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 8:23:55 PM
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I posted a thread about Louis Farakkhan calling 0 the messiah.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 8:32:02 PM
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After the ATF and Reno roasted women and children it was more than Liddy who was thinking that, not that I necessarily agree with them. That is what the second amendment is all about. As far as Liddy's Watergate crimes, he did pay the price. He went to jail unlike the unrepentant Ayers.
Umm but he was a terriorist none the less and is actually friendly with McCain so using the flawed analogy again of guilt by association, if he knows he and McCain really knows him, then that makes him "palling around with a terriorist" despite how long ago it was....right?? (you don't have to answer that, I know you'll find some kind of off reasoning to defend it, so it's cool)
Liddy does not fit the definition of terrorist ... he may be a big month and have absolutely no discernment ... but that is the same as a terrorist who bombed buildings that resulted in the loss of life. Terrorism is defined as criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or other nature that may be invoked to justify them. Watergate was not an act of terror, it was a burglary and the dependents paid their debt to society. Liddy makes stupid statements, statements that are on a par with some of the dumb stuff that comes out of Joe Biden's mouth at times.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 9:53:10 PM
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You know if we judged people by who they knew and hung around with, how many of us would be following Christ now? Thank the Lord most of the people back then were able to see past that.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 10:00:07 PM
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This isn't about our walk with Christ. This pathological liar is running for the highest office in the world. He said he didn't know about Ayers past and then he says that he thought Ayers was rehabilitated? Give me a break, we are not all that gullible.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 10:11:13 PM
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This isn't about our walk with Christ. This pathological liar is running for the highest office in the world. He said he didn't know about Ayers past and then he says that he thought Ayers was rehabilitated? Give me a break, we are not all that gullible.
Sorry, but I wasn't commenting on anyone's walk with Christ? I was just trying to make a point. Sarah Palin and her husband first denied trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired and then today her husband takes the fall. I guess that's o.k. though. Do you really expect me to trust this woman should she ever become President?
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 10:18:23 PM
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That is not the same thing. Stay on topic. Ayers and his wife were and still are unrepentant for what they did. They regret that they didn't do more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fC0jAi2gc&eurl=http://patriotroom.com/?p=2823
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 10:46:51 PM
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That is not the same thing. Stay on topic. Ayers and his wife were and still are unrepentant for what they did. They regret that they didn't do more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fC0jAi2gc&eurl=http://patriotroom.com/?p=2823
My point was you're accusing Obama of "lying", when Palin has lied too. Just because Obama has had dealings with Ayers, doesn't mean they're plotting to blow up the United States. Can you tell me how Obama knowing Ayers has affected the government? Can you give me one negative example of Ayer's influence on Obama? Sarah Palin and her husband's lie did affect the government in Alaska. If she's a maverick in anything, it's for bucking the system.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 10:50:58 PM
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This thread is about Ayers being a domestic terrorist and 0bama's lack of judgment. Ayers hasn't changed his views about overthrowing the government. It appears he's just changed tactics.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/9/2008 11:08:43 PM
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Communism "IS" socialism....
"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan
....maybe you should take the gipper's advice to heart.
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RE: :: New McCain Ad - Terrorist! - 10/10/2008 8:26:22 AM
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How is that truthful in any way? Do you have any tangible evidence about Obama's "so called " ties to terrorists, no, no one does. So how does that make it truth if it's based on hearsay and assumptions?
B. Hussein Obama's links to communist, socialist, druggies, and terrorist is well documented, just read the books that the "One' has written, he refers to many of them.
I am still most interested in the 'Missing years" when this genuis cannot remember who he was associated with, where he lived, whpat his college thesis' were about, etc. The truth of those years would probably explain why BHO cannot remember them.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/10/2008 8:38:17 AM
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You did miss it - there is audio, written and video evidence of that.
PLease show all of us where he denied knowing these people.
He has stated that he was just a guy from his neighborhood. That is absolutely untrue.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/10/2008 10:58:37 AM
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just a guy from his neighborhood
Hmmm, I thought they both loved on the South Side.
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RE: Is McCain a terrorist? - 10/10/2008 11:06:33 AM
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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at." --Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, 1970
He and his wife haven't repented of their actions, in fact they said they should have done more.
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