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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 8:37:50 PM
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Well it looks like the bipartisan committee that was investigating the situation has come to the conclusion that Gov. Palin unlawfully abused her authority and powers as th Gov. of Alaska when she fired the Public Safety Commissioner. The news just broke so it'll be ineteresting to see where this goes.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 8:49:33 PM
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I don't understand either.
I honestly don't think it's a big deal -the man in question, the brother-in-law, sounds like, well, someone who has problems (allegedly making threats to Palins family, abusing her sister).
But, she fired someone else - not Wooten, the man in question - over this. And initially, she said she was not afraid of the investigation - but this, obviously, has changed - since she has asked that the investigation be post-phoned; people are refusing to testify, etc..
All of which begs the questions: why say you're not worried initially; and why try to postphone and why not testify?
Peace and God bless,
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 8:54:21 PM
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Excerpt from HERE.
Findings:
Finding Number One:
For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides
“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Finding Number Two:
I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
Finding Number Three:
Harbor Adjustment Service of Anchorage, and its owner Ms. Murleen Wilkes, handled Trooper Michael Wooten’s workers’ compensation claim properly and in the normal course of business like any other claim processed by Harbor Adjustment Service and Ms. Wilkes. Further, Trooper Wooten received all the workers’ compensation benefits to which he was entitled.
Finding Number Four:
The Attorney General’s office has failed to substantially comply with my August 6, 2008 written request to Governor Sarah Palin for information about the case in the form of emails.
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4 Democrat
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:06:37 PM
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What puzzles me here is if Palin did not violate the law per se, but did violate the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, then where does she stand exactly?
Further, does this decision open the door for Monegan to file a civil suit against Sarah Palin, and her husband, who seems to have done a lot of arm-twisting over this matter?
Either way, the McCain-Palin ticket seems to be disintegrating before our eyes.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:09:23 PM
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I don't really think it matters why she did it as long as she had the full right to do so.
It definitely matters. It speaks directly to Palin's character.
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Yes, he is; which is part of the reason he got five days suspension total for all the things he did.
Thanks, I did not know that.
Greetings
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It definitely matters. It speaks directly to Palin's character.
Campaign's version of events
In an effort to head off the report, McCain campaign spokesman Taylor Griffin released the campaign's own version of events. That report, which Griffin said was written by campaign staffers,
says the Legislature has taken a legitimate policy dispute between a governor and one of her commissioners, and portrayed it as something inappropriate.
It looks like she was just following the path of the Lord, where if we really look at the resemblance of the accusation; God is going to do the same thing, by putting His foot down once and for all and settling a policy dispute between the world and His Son, Sarah was just prophesying and gave an example!
Get em Sarah ! 
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:11:16 PM
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todd_t
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It looks like she following the path of the Lord, where if we really look at the resemblance of the accusation; God is going to do the same thing, by putting His foot down once and for all and settling a policy dispute between the world and His Son, Sarah was just prophesying and gave an example!
What are you talking about?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:15:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t
What puzzles me here is if Palin did not violate the law per se, but did violate the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, then where does she stand exactly?
Further, does this decision open the door for Monegan to file a civil suit against Sarah Palin, and her husband, who seems to have done a lot of arm-twisting over this matter?
Either way, the McCain-Palin ticket seems to be disintegrating before our eyes.
She broke the ethics law. I'm sure others will say it's not a real law, but she broke the ethics law of Alaska.
"ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin abused her power as Alaska's governor and a violated state ethics law by trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the state police, a state investigator's report concluded Friday."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:41:31 PM
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It looks like she following the path of the Lord, where if we really look at the resemblance of the accusation; God is going to do the same thing, by putting His foot down once and for all and settling a policy dispute between the world and His Son, Sarah was just prophesying and gave an example!
What are you talking about?
Her Character
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:47:51 PM
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Excerpt from HERE.
Findings:
Finding Number One:
For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides
“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Finding Number Two:
I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
Finding Number Three:
Harbor Adjustment Service of Anchorage, and its owner Ms. Murleen Wilkes, handled Trooper Michael Wooten’s workers’ compensation claim properly and in the normal course of business like any other claim processed by Harbor Adjustment Service and Ms. Wilkes. Further, Trooper Wooten received all the workers’ compensation benefits to which he was entitled.
Finding Number Four:
The Attorney General’s office has failed to substantially comply with my August 6, 2008 written request to Governor Sarah Palin for information about the case in the form of emails.
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Trooper Wooten received all the workers’ compensation benefits to which he was entitled.
Greetings,
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Trooper Wooten received all the workers’ compensation benefits to which he was entitled.
That suggests some form or injury, what was the injury?
LG
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:50:56 PM
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landabee
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I'm not one hundred per cent sure, but I think it was a claim for back injury.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 9:52:59 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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I'm not one hundred per cent sure, but I think it was a claim for back injury.
I just found this
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/536630.html
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:08:11 PM
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Findings:
Finding Number One:
For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides
“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Finding Number Two:
I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
These findings sound contradictory to me. First they say she violated the trust given her by her office based on their opinion that Monegan's refusal to fire the trooper was "likely" a contributing factor. It appears that they can't determine for a fact that it was.
But the contradiction, to me at least is the following statement saying it "was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."
If it was proper and lawful then how can it violate the ethics law? It sounds like Sarah did nothing wrong but the committee felt that it had to find something so they went with the ethics violation.
To use the words that have been charged against the McCain campaign, this just sounds like a desperate attempt to smear Palin.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:12:31 PM
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I don't know why but I yawn a lot when I read this one.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:14:11 PM
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To use the words that have been charged against the McCain campaign, this just sounds like a desperate attempt to smear Palin.
I know you may find it hard to believe, but Palin has been caught acting unethically in office by a bipartisan panel. Wake up. Now, if you feel she's still ready to lead, then by all means, continue to support her.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:15:22 PM
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In the 263 pages that were released, the independent investigator, Stephen E. Branchflower, a former Anchorage prosecutor, said that Ms. Palin wrongfully allowed her husband, Todd, to use state resources as part of the effort to have Trooper Wooten dismissed.
The report says she knowingly “permitted Todd Palin to use the governor’s office and the resources of the governor’s office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired.”
Further, it says, she “knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda.”
Mr. Branchflower based his finding of abuse of power on Alaska’s Executive Branch Ethics Act, which was established to “discourage executive branch employees from acting upon personal interest in the performance of their public responsibilities and to avoid conflicts of interest in the performance of duty,” the report says.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:17:56 PM
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todd_t
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If it was proper and lawful then how can it violate the ethics law?
I was wondering the same thing; apparently, Palin acted within her legal authority, but in a way that was deemed unethical by the commission.
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To use the words that have been charged against the McCain campaign, this just sounds like a desperate attempt to smear Palin.
Then I guess the 10 Republicans (versus 4 Democrats) who were on the state committee must getting secret payoffs from the Obama campaign, right?
Wow, everything's a conspiracy these days....
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:18:59 PM
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To use the words that have been charged against the McCain campaign, this just sounds like a desperate attempt to smear Palin.
I know you may find it hard to believe, but Palin has been caught acting unethically in office by a bipartisan panel. Wake up. Now, if you feel she's still ready to lead, then by all means, continue to support her.
Strange how the attitudes change with liberals. Palin fires a guy and it's called unethical and every liberal denounces her saying "see, see, she shouldn't be in office...."
Bill Clinton has an adulterous sexual affair in the Oval Office and all the liberals want to look the other way, turn the other cheek and say "it was only sex..." 
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:31:36 PM
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landabee
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Okay.
Perhaps further reading of the released document will provide a more clear understanding of the meaning behind the findings for you. I only posted a snippet. But there is a link above.
I don't believe I can be clearer.
God bless.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/10/2008 10:35:30 PM
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I believe the findings are saying the pressure on Monegan to fire Wooten was the unethical part. The actual firing of Monegan was not.
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