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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 7:55:15 PM
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ekserekseez
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I am suprised that people nonchalantly defend a system that apparently protects abusive cops.
Remember those pesky little parts of the "system" that you so scorn when the Democrats win and protesting abortion and gay marriage are crimes. You'll be crying for people to follow due process then.
Nobody is saying this cop should have gotten off. They're saying that there are procedures to follow.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 7:58:36 PM
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Remember those pesky little parts of the "system" that you so scorn when the Democrats win and protesting abortion and gay marriage are crimes. You'll be crying for people to follow due process then.
Nobody is saying this cop should have gotten off. They're saying that there are procedures to follow.
Well it appears that the 'procedures' in this case (or at least the bureaucrats) are protecting a bad cop; I just can't figure out why the Palin critics are.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 9:11:08 PM
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ekserekseez
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Well it appears that the 'procedures' in this case (or at least the bureaucrats) are protecting a bad cop; I just can't figure out why the Palin critics are.
Due process is a right of everyone, even Marxists and socialists. Even for people who vote differently than I do. Even for people who vote differently than YOU do.
Sis is right, everyone is a situational ethicist when it's THEIR man (or woman) in the spotlight. So remember that the next time you're tempted to accuse anyone of relativism.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 9:16:34 PM
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Jhud
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Due process is a right of everyone, even Marxists and socialists. Even for people who vote differently than I do. Even for people who vote differently than YOU do.
Sis is right, everyone is a situational ethicist when it's THEIR man (or woman) in the spotlight. So remember that the next time you're tempted to accuse anyone of relativism.
It really has nothing to do with ethics or procedures.
The conclusion (as much as anyone has seemed to draw a conclusion from a hastily released 300+ page document) seems to be, "Gov. Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda"; i.e. she didn't do anything, but failed to stop something from being done by others.
It doesn't seem to get much more subjective than that.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 9:22:39 PM
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I'm surprised that people are this nonchalant about illegal and unethical abuse of process. Or maybe I shouldn't be surprised. For McCain supporters, the ends justifies the means.
I am suprised that people nonchalantly defend a system that apparently protects abusive cops.
Jhud,
Why should you be surprised, these are probably the same people who still support and defend that Senator for Louisian who kept thousands of dollars in his freezer, then took the National Guard away from their duties after Katrina to go retrieve it.?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 9:28:16 PM
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Jhud
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Why should you be surprised, these are probably the same people who still support and defend that Senator for Louisian who kept thousands of dollars in his freezer, then took the National Guard away from their duties after Katrina to go retrieve it.?
And gave us Barney "Nothing is wrong with Fannie Mae" Frank who's boyfriend ran a prostitution ring out of his house.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 10:28:37 PM
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She's doing great if this is the only dirt anybody can dig up on her! Not to mention shes the only one who can talk and stare the camera/american public straight in the eye.
Not exactly correct.
This was just the biggest most obvious dirt pile.
There's lots more fun to come -
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“Troopergate” used to be known as “Palingate” in Alaska because we naively believed there was only one. Oh, how innocent we were.
Since that long ago time, our naivete has fallen away, and “gates” have been springing up like mushrooms all over Alaska: Troopergate, babygate, bookgate, pastorgate…the list seemed endless. Add to that a whole host of more recent and harder to say “gates” - Leaving-your-town-in-debt-gate, collecting-per-diem-while-living-at-home-gate, charging-victims-for-rape-kits-gate, trying-to-rid-the-world-of-wolves-and-polar-bears-gate, and we’ve been busy people. We’ve been focusing on John McCain’s I-didn’t-vet-my-running-mate-so-I’m-going-te-let-everyone-else-do-it-gate.
But now, a brand new “gate” surfaces. I present “House Gate”.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/11/2008 10:54:03 PM
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There's lots more fun to come -
Mudflats
The last time you dug yourself deep a deep hole you were posting on here that Palin's daughter wasn't really hers and she was trying to cover up for her daughter.
Remember when you said all that stuff and you were so sure you were right?
You sure you want to commit like this again, considering pride and falls and all that?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:46:54 AM
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Remember when you said all that stuff and you were so sure you were right?
You sure you want to commit like this again, considering pride and falls and all that?
Haven't you figured it out yet? He and his ilk don't care if what they are saying is true, as long as the slime flows; he wants to poison the well, not talk issues. Just another typical leftist slimemeister.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:25:23 AM
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But trying to say Troopergate was the only shady thing Palin was involved in is absurd.
I do think this is one of the inequities of this campaign though. You tell a conservative that their candidate's daughter is pregnant out of wedlock, that they used their influence to get a bad cop fired, and that they might have been friends with the contracters they hired, and a conservative has doubts and wonders if they are making the right choice.
But you tell a leftist that that their candidate was a cocaine snorting youth who hung out with Marxist terrorists, did corrupt deals with Chicago businessmen, denigrated American troops and faithfully attended a church where hatred for America was preached, and they say, "Hey, he's one of us!".
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:42:56 AM
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Well it appears that the 'procedures' in this case (or at least the bureaucrats) are protecting a bad cop; I just can't figure out why the Palin critics are.
Does "Abuse of Power" ring a bell?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:44:57 AM
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Does "Abuse of Power" ring a bell?
It does, though even the report doesn't seem to indicate how it applies.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 8:37:29 AM
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ok from the news, it seems like she heard that trooper tasered a kid, and she did what wass needed to fire that policeman. And i also heard that even if she overstepped her governorship to do that, she had the public's health safety and welfare in mind.
Are we supposed to bypass the law if the law is not obeying God? so even though i cant stand Palin, in this case, if those are the facts, I kinda agree with her.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 8:43:21 AM
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And gave us Barney "Nothing is wrong with Fannie Mae" Frank who's boyfriend ran a prostitution ring out of his house.
And who was having a homosexual affair with a high up at Fannie mae when he wias overlooking their destruction of the economy.
Thanks
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 10:45:05 AM
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TaoPoohBear
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Does "Abuse of Power" ring a bell?
It does, though even the report doesn't seem to indicate how it applies.
Benefiting a personal interest?
From the Branchflower report -
“For the reasons explained in section IV of the report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.11(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.
“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:05:50 AM
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I find the comments on this thread fascinating. They seem to prove that Nietschze was correct about human nature after all.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:12:06 AM
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TaoPoohBear
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Remember when you said all that stuff and you were so sure you were right?
You sure you want to commit like this again, considering pride and falls and all that?
Haven't you figured it out yet? He and his ilk don't care if what they are saying is true, as long as the slime flows; he wants to poison the well, not talk issues. Just another typical leftist slimemeister.
Other than flogging a single dead horse (a mistake on my part I have acknowledged over & over & over again.......)
I have yet to see any real argument against the info I find.
Just hyperbole.
You need to take your spiel to a Palin rally.
Shout some baseless accusations, yell at the news crew; You know, fit right in.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:23:13 AM
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I don't know if Sarah Palin is hiding anything...but she should be hiding from the malicious media.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:44:51 AM
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“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Well Sarah was already elected the governor and their seems to be no benefit of a personal or financial interest through official action because the governorship was not threatened; so publically by what did she have to benefit form on behave of her office as a violation of public trust.... when She supposedly is a type of commander in Chief of the State police?
If I am not mistaken!
That’s what is says ...The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a “public” trust
In public… if someone screws up the employer has every right to get rid of that person however possible and in the State I live in… it could be even if they didn’t like you.
And in like manner if we don't like the Gov...we vote them out.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:55:15 AM
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I don't know if Sarah Palin is hiding anything...but she should be hiding from the malicious media.
I agree, and the best way to do that is to drop out of the race.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 11:57:09 AM
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Why are you scared of her Freddie? Can't handle a real woman?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:00:19 PM
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FreddieD
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Why are you scared of her Freddie? Can't handle a real woman?
The question is not relative, zamdad. It has to do with qualifications.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:02:35 PM
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Why are you scared of her Freddie? Can't handle a real woman?
The question is not relative, zamdad. It has to do with qualifications.
FreddieD
What's wrong with her qualifications? As I see it, she has more than Barack. I think it's something else you fear.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:12:16 PM
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What's wrong with her qualifications? As I see it, she has more than Barack. I think it's something else you fear.
How does she have more qualifications than 0bama?
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