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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:19:14 PM
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TaoPoohBear
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“The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
Well Sarah was already elected the governor and their seems to be no benefit of a personal or financial interest through official action because the governorship was not threatened; so publically by what did she have to benefit form on behave of her office as a violation of public trust.... when She supposedly is a type of commander in Chief of the State police?
If I am not mistaken!
That’s what is says ...The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a “public” trust
In public… if someone screws up the employer has every right to get rid of that person however possible and in the State I live in… it could be even if they didn’t like you.
And in like manner if we don't like the Gov...we vote them out.
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Wiser people than me have looked at those questions you ask, this was the best explanation I could find to those questions -
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Carrying out a personal vendetta is against the ethics laws of Alaska, specifically Alaska Statute 39.52.11(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, regardless of wether she had the legal power to fire commissioners or not. The Ethics Act, basically says that it is illegal to use your office to carry out a personal vendetta, since using your office to carrying out a personal vendetta is abuse of the public trust
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My opinion on all this is that it's not so much a character issue as it is an competence (administrative) one. Distracted people are not as competent at their jobs; Why continuously distract them? Why allow your unelected spouse to be so disruptive? Why allow your entire staff to circumvent an established chain of command?
Because you don't like the original answer?!
Do you allow young children to repeatedly question an answer they don't like?
In another sense, you could call this poor parenting of a State govenment.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:27:17 PM
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ok from the news, it seems like she heard that trooper tasered a kid, and she did what wass needed to fire that policeman. And i also heard that even if she overstepped her governorship to do that, she had the public's health safety and welfare in mind.
Are we supposed to bypass the law if the law is not obeying God? so even though i cant stand Palin, in this case, if those are the facts, I kinda agree with her.
God's law would have one follow the law up to the point it violates His. A person in authority should be more inclined than most to follow procedures since they are more accountable due to their position of authority.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:29:39 PM
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What's wrong with her qualifications? As I see it, she has more than Barack. I think it's something else you fear.
How does she have more qualifications than 0bama?
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She certainly doesn't have less qualification than Obama, and he's the one actually running for President...
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:49:55 PM
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She certainly doesn't have less qualification than Obama, and he's the one actually running for President...
I thought you have to have the confidence of the public to be qualify. If she had the confidence of the public she won't need to hide from the media.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 12:58:19 PM
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What's wrong with her qualifications? As I see it, she has more than Barack. I think it's something else you fear.
How does she have more qualifications than 0bama?
FreddieD
You gotta be kidding me, Freddie? Seems that you see what you want to see. She actually has executive experience and Obama's done what? Organize the community, serve as a state legislator and serve as a senator for his state.
I still think you're tryin to hide, Freddie, cause you fear a woman who can shoot.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:03:29 PM
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You gotta be kidding me, Freddie? Seems that you see what you want to see. She actually has executive experience and Obama's done what? Organize the community, serve as a state legislator and serve as a senator for his state.
Than she has more qualifications than McCain?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:10:35 PM
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You gotta be kidding me, Freddie? Seems that you see what you want to see. She actually has executive experience and Obama's done what? Organize the community, serve as a state legislator and serve as a senator for his state.
Than she has more qualifications than McCain?
FreddieD
If she was at the top of the ticket, she'd have my vote. But, she's not at the top. So, McCain gets my vote. I was not that excited about McCain. But, when he became the nominee, he got my support. McCain is better than the alternative.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:11:02 PM
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My opinion on all this is that it's not so much a character issue as it is an competence (administrative) one. Distracted people are not as competent at their jobs; Why continuously distract them? Why allow your unelected spouse to be so disruptive? Why allow your entire staff to circumvent an established chain of command?
Because you don't like the original answer?!
Do you allow young children to repeatedly question an answer they don't like?
In another sense, you could call this poor parenting of a State government.
I see that…
but the wording of the infringements is typical to that of Deut 24 where Moses does not define uncleanness,
Therefore the personal infringement is also left open for interpretation,
Sort of like in Matt 19 when Jesus defined the 1 and only 1 reason for interpretation, so in this case it has to be the same.
Unless the Governor actually blocks an opposing who wants to take the next term away, then that is a violation of a public trust of an elected public official for personal gain,
Unless there is that type of suggestion in this case…generally there will be no legal case under those stips bought against Sarah in Alaskan law.
But I could be mistaken, and if I am not mistaken the Dem party only raised that in spite of the “truths” being witnessed against Obama
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:12:42 PM
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She certainly doesn't have less qualification than Obama, and he's the one actually running for President...
I thought you have to have the confidence of the public to be qualify. If she had the confidence of the public she won't need to hide from the media.
FreddieD
I wasn't aware that one's abilities where subject to confidence of the public... One is only as good as the public perception of them?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:16:01 PM
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If she was at the top of the ticket, she'd have my vote. But, she's not at the top. So, McCain gets my vote. I was not that excited about McCain. But, when he became the nominee, he got my support. McCain is better than the alternative.
You didn't answer my question. Why are you afraid to answer my question?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:17:06 PM
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If she was at the top of the ticket, she'd have my vote. But, she's not at the top. So, McCain gets my vote. I was not that excited about McCain. But, when he became the nominee, he got my support. McCain is better than the alternative.
You didn't answer my question. Why are you afraid to answer my question?
FreddieD
Freddie, you haven't answered my questions. Are your questions more important than my questions?
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She actually has executive experience and Obama's done what?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:19:36 PM
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I wasn't aware that one's abilities where subject to confidence of the public...
We are electing a leader, aren't we?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:22:36 PM
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I wasn't aware that one's abilities where subject to confidence of the public...
We are electing a leader, aren't we?
FreddieD
And Obama's a leader? He seems more like an orator, sort of like a motivational speaker.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:28:38 PM
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As expressed by the Dem exposure of the controversy in Alaska, which was just a media ploy acknowledgement to those cronies involved in Washington, because they know, She will do it!
Exactly. I think this is what Freddie fears.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:40:28 PM
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Freddie, you haven't answered my questions. Are your questions more important than my questions?
Don’t dodge. I told you your question wasn’t relative. Lets just say that I am afraid of her running this country, as you are afraid of Obama. Reason? She is in over her head and she is dishonest.
For you entertainment and education.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:44:11 PM
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Freddie, you haven't answered my questions. Are your questions more important than my questions?
Don’t dodge. I told you your question wasn’t relative. Lets just say that I am afraid of her running this country, as you are afraid of Obama. Reason? She is in over her head and she is dishonest.
For you entertainment and education.
FreddieD
So basically, you are saying that Obama is inexperienced just like Palin. So if I'm hearing you correctly that means McCain should win this election hands down based on experience. Unless you don't mind cronies helping Obama run things; you know Peloski, Frank, ACORN, Ayers, MoveOn.org.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:49:46 PM
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So basically, you are saying that Obama is inexperienced just like Palin. So if I'm hearing you correctly that means McCain should win this election hands down based on experience. Unless you don't mind cronies helping Obama run things; you know Peloski, Frank, ACORN, Ayers, MoveOn.org.
I don't know how you concluded that. Could you explain?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:51:12 PM
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So basically, you are saying that Obama is inexperienced just like Palin. So if I'm hearing you correctly that means McCain should win this election hands down based on experience. Unless you don't mind cronies helping Obama run things; you know Peloski, Frank, ACORN, Ayers, MoveOn.org.
I don't know how you concluded that. Could you explain?
FreddieD
I guess the same way you seem to think Gov. Palin would operate in a informational vaccum. Except all of those cronies of Obama are real -- feeding him his world view.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:56:11 PM
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Freddie, you haven't answered my questions. Are your questions more important than my questions?
Don’t dodge. I told you your question wasn’t relative. Lets just say that I am afraid of her running this country, as you are afraid of Obama. Reason? She is in over her head and she is dishonest.
For you entertainment and education.
FreddieD
Catchy little link there. I just love the credibility of Youtube. I also love how this investigation of Sarah's firing of her department head of public safety took such an ugly turn after her name was mentioned as a possibility of becoming a nominee. As someone who lived in Alaska the majority of his adult life and worked in the law enforcement community, his firing had nothing to do with her her brother in law. Moneghan aws told what his budget was going to be and he did not like it. Having been part of a good ole boy network, he did not take too kindly to the woman at the top telling him what to do. As a result, he got canned. Then, because life is politics, he claims it's about the brother in law whose a disgrace to the badge.
The left leaning "mainstream" media loves this kind of stuff as it can be used to paint the picture they want. Whatever it takes to get "The One" elected and impliment more social policies.
She is not dishonest. She can relate to middle class America better than Ivy League educated Barackstar. She has a proven record of cleaning up the messes that are created when politicians make politics their career as opposed to serving the people who elect them. Obama makes all kinds of promises to look out for the middle class, but how's he going to do that when his tax policies will drive business away. The government neds private enterprise to fund itself. The parasite seems to be eating the host.
I don't know how you can say she's dishonest when dishonest reporting is where you seem to be getting your information. Obama, from my perspective, is dishonest when he doesn't disassociate himself from Reverand Wright until the media has to run with the story. When his association with Ayers goes from "a guy in the neighborhood," to "I was only eight years old," to "I thought he was rehabilitated."
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 1:59:38 PM
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I wasn't aware that one's abilities where subject to confidence of the public...
We are electing a leader, aren't we?
FreddieD
People are casting vote for the person they best feel represents their views... It's more a popularity contest than electing a "leader"... And however a person is perceived doesn't change their abilities...
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:03:47 PM
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Freddie, you haven't answered my questions. Are your questions more important than my questions?
Don’t dodge. I told you your question wasn’t relative. Lets just say that I am afraid of her running this country, as you are afraid of Obama. Reason? She is in over her head and she is dishonest.
For you entertainment and education.
FreddieD
Obama is over his head as well and surely dishonest and he's the one actually running for President... And is seems Obama is running against only Palin...
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:09:37 PM
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People are casting vote for the person they best feel represents their views... It's more a popularity contest than electing a "leader"... And however a person is perceived doesn't change their abilities...
Obama is over his head as well and surely dishonest and he's the one actually running for President...
It's all of your opinion and at present not a very popular one.
FreddieD
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:10:01 PM
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As someone who lived in Alaska the majority of his adult life and worked in the law enforcement community, his firing had nothing to do with her her brother in law.
She is not dishonest.
I don't know how you can say she's dishonest when dishonest reporting is where you seem to be getting your information.
I've been getting some of my info from Mudflats.
Seems to be an honest Alaskan news source. Am I wrong? Why?
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