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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:13:52 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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People are casting vote for the person they best feel represents their views... It's more a popularity contest than electing a "leader"... And however a person is perceived doesn't change their abilities...
Obama is over his head as well and surely dishonest and he's the one actually running for President...
It's all of your opinion and at present not a very popular one.
FreddieD
Not much of defense of Obama being honest and having leadership skills... You can have the last American Idol running the country with that logic...
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:15:04 PM
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As someone who lived in Alaska the majority of his adult life and worked in the law enforcement community, his firing had nothing to do with her her brother in law.
She is not dishonest.
I don't know how you can say she's dishonest when dishonest reporting is where you seem to be getting your information.
I've been getting some of my info from Mudflats.
Seems to be an honest Alaskan news source. Am I wrong? Why?
Because it's a blog... Do you normally read editorials for the honest news?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:16:15 PM
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These things are what McCain is speaking of busting up
ACORN for example is so buried within 75 other organizations its a little deceiving for the Gov to get a hold on what the other 74 are doing...
Peloski is just an idiot and a curser, who doesn’t know her head from her feet,
Ayres is a known terrorist and it’s no wonder why he has a job in an Islamic $$$ affronted university, and personally there is no reason to waste time on MoveOn.org because I already can see the BIG picture.
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No, that isn't what I wanted you to explain. I wanted this to be explain:
" So basically, you are saying that Obama is inexperienced just like Palin. So if I'm hearing you correctly that means McCain should win this election hands down based on experience. "
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:21:50 PM
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You can have the last American Idol running the country with that logic...
Did not the last "American Idol" have the support of the conservatives?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:22:28 PM
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As someone who lived in Alaska the majority of his adult life and worked in the law enforcement community, his firing had nothing to do with her her brother in law.
She is not dishonest.
I don't know how you can say she's dishonest when dishonest reporting is where you seem to be getting your information.
I've been getting some of my info from Mudflats.
Seems to be an honest Alaskan news source. Am I wrong? Why?
The only honest news source that is not bias… is generally founded in the Christian prospective, where they actually present all sides truthfully…even the side the secular news casters do not want one to know…go figure!
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/index.aspx?WT.svl=menu]
http://www.cbn.com/media/index.aspx?s=newswatch&title=Newswatch&prgm=newswatch
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:39:28 PM
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People are casting vote for the person they best feel represents their views... It's more a popularity contest than electing a "leader"... And however a person is perceived doesn't change their abilities...
Obama is over his head as well and surely dishonest and he's the one actually running for President...
It's all of your opinion and at present not a very popular one.
FreddieD
Is that what this is about? Popularity? Lets just lick our fingers and stick them in the air to see which way the wind is blowing today.
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I've been getting some of my info from Mudflats.
Seems to be an honest Alaskan news source. Am I wrong? Why?
Loks like a rather biased blog. Whose actualy writing it? I couldn't find any names. My guess is, they're probably in Anchorage. The saying in Alaska is that Anchorage is only an hour from Alaska.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:39:32 PM
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Other than flogging a single dead horse (a mistake on my part I have acknowledged over & over & over again.......)
I have yet to see any real argument against the info I find.
I am not sure what good such acknowledgements do when you keep doing the same thing over and over again; when you are able to make a substantive argument based on definitive facts perhaps your posts will be worth considering; until then, you only seem to further your reputation as a leftist slime merchant.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:45:15 PM
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Is that what this is about? Popularity? Lets just lick our fingers and stick them in the air to see which way the wind is blowing today.
One is elected by having most of the votes. That is what is definded as popular.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:46:11 PM
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I find the comments on this thread fascinating. They seem to prove that Nietschze was correct about human nature after all.
Wow, name dropping Nietschze; what else do you remember from your undergraduate philosophy class?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:47:12 PM
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You can have the last American Idol running the country with that logic...
Did not the last "American Idol" have the support of the conservatives?
FreddieD
No idea, but that doesn't change the fact you equate popularity to ability...
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:50:45 PM
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Is that what this is about? Popularity? Lets just lick our fingers and stick them in the air to see which way the wind is blowing today.
One is elected by having most of the votes. That is what is definded as popular.
FreddieD
What did you put in your Cheerios this morning? My comment was about your noting that John's opinion was not a very popular one:
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It's all of your opinion and at present not a very popular one.
What does this have to do with votes? Right now we're not voting. The polls keep changing everyday. Whom or what is popular today is unpopular tomorrow. If you're looking to go with what's popular you're nothing more than a bobber riding the current, being pulled wherever it leads. talk about no purpose or direction....
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 2:51:03 PM
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My opinion on all this is that it's not so much a character issue as it is an competence (administrative) one. Distracted people are not as competent at their jobs; Why continuously distract them? Why allow your unelected spouse to be so disruptive? Why allow your entire staff to circumvent an established chain of command?
Because you don't like the original answer?!
Do you allow young children to repeatedly question an answer they don't like?
In another sense, you could call this poor parenting of a State govenment.
Why is it Palin failed to 'parent' well by firing Monegan, but Monegan was perfectly justified in protecting a bad cop?
That is what I love about leftists; they claim to hate corrupt authority until they find out that it's their guys who are corrupt; then they run to protect them.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 3:29:08 PM
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So basically, you are saying that Obama is inexperienced just like Palin. So if I'm hearing you correctly that means McCain should win this election hands down based on experience. Unless you don't mind cronies helping Obama run things; you know Peloski, Frank, ACORN, Ayers, MoveOn.org.
I don't know how you concluded that. Could you explain?
FreddieD
If you need that explained then you are clearly not paying attention!!
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 4:30:34 PM
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Why is it Palin failed to 'parent' well by firing Monegan, but Monegan was perfectly justified in protecting a bad cop?
The whole point about Sarah Palin wanting Wooten out was that is was strictly personal.
She had to follow procedures to follow, and decided instead to take a shortcut thru Monegan's career when he wouldn't do her bidding. In other words, if Palin wanted Wooten out, why did Monegan have to pay for her grudge?
Finally, Todd Palin had no right getting involved in the internal state question of whether Wooten should have been fired or not. Todd Palin is not a state employee, and has no business squatting around his wife's offices, nor pressuring state employees on any issue.
Doesn't the guy have a job? Because he seems to have an awful lot of free time on his hands.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 4:34:34 PM
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Why is it Palin failed to 'parent' well by firing Monegan, but Monegan was perfectly justified in protecting a bad cop?
The whole point about Sarah Palin wanting Wooten out was that is was strictly personal.
She had to follow procedures to follow, and decided instead to take a shortcut thru Monegan's career when he wouldn't do her bidding. In other words, if Palin wanted Wooten out, why did Monegan have to pay for her grudge?
Finally, Todd Palin had no right getting involved in the internal state question of whether Wooten should have been fired or not. Todd Palin is not a state employee, and has no business squatting around his wife's offices, nor pressuring state employees on any issue.
Doesn't the guy have a job? Because he seems to have an awful lot of free time on his hands.
Is this just pure speculation on your part? Or, are you finding facts to fit your perspective in selected news pieces? And, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands as well to go online Palinbashing. I'm also guessing you're not married.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 4:36:18 PM
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Unless you don't mind cronies helping Obama run things; you know Peloski, Frank, ACORN, Ayers, MoveOn.org.
After what I've watched the last 7.75 years it isn't as scary to me after witnessing names such as Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Halliburton, etc. and what they have done for this president.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 4:37:42 PM
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Is this just pure speculation on your part? Or, are you finding facts to fit your perspective in selected news pieces?
Just putting two and two together.
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And, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands as well to go online Palinbashing.
On weekends, yeah, usually. Although how is criticism equal bashing?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 4:42:07 PM
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Is this just pure speculation on your part? Or, are you finding facts to fit your perspective in selected news pieces?
Just putting two and two together.
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And, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands as well to go online Palinbashing.
On weekends, yeah, usually. Although how is criticism equal bashing?
Putting two and two together? You mean finding information that supports your opinion and then speculating? Is that like, new math?
Finding information to bolster your opinion and then throwing tossing your opinion out as fact is not criticizing. You seem brighter than many of the left leaning CW members, but critical thinking is not something the left embraces.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 6:03:00 PM
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Did not the last "American Idol" have the support of the conservatives?
Actually, somehow Kerry managed to lose despite running against one of the least popular Presidents in the history of the US. I'm still not sure what happened there. It's kind of mind-blowing. How did Democrats manage to choose the opponent so poorly? It should have been a cakewalk...
As for polls, as Twain said, there are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, **** lies, and statistics.
I am not sure why wanting Wooten out would have to be personal. If a governor found out that a state trooper NOT related to them was drinking on the job, poaching, had threatened to kill someone (even if it WEREN'T the governor's father), and had tasered an 11 year old, most people would consider that governor a HERO for insisting that that state trooper be fired before somebody got killed by that trooper's horrible lack of common sense, rational thought, and good judgement. So, one really has to wonder... why on earth would Monegan resist the firing of the state trooper who was that screwed up? And then go on to do other stuff behind the governor's (his boss's) back?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 6:20:24 PM
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Palin's not really hiding anything. It's pretty much common knowledge that she is an undereducated, unvetted political hack who McCain has been able to train to repeat the same few phrases over and over again.
The phony cutsiness, the false and lying homey folksiness, and the "you betchas" are all a mask covering the face of a shrill, ravening, salivating GOP version of Hillary Clinton, only without the education or taste in clothes. Please note that this is NOT an endorsedment of the Marxist Clinton (except possibly for her taste in clothes).
It's very simple. McCain's campaign is morally bankrupt since he embraces socialism and the "bailout." While I certainly don't want a communist like Obama to win, McCain/Palin are little better. Personal attacks, which every poll shows to be backfiring on the GOP, are the only ammo this pair of loser RINOs has until Election Day.
What's Palin hiding? Not much. Certainly not political or economic insight.
OBAMA/BIDEN = SOCIALISM (fast track)
McCAIN/PALIN = SOCIALISM (slow boat)
You really think Hilary has better taste in Clothes? Say what you will about Sarah Palin, but she is a looker. I find her very attractive as far as appearance goes and that includes her wardrobe. Especially when compared to Hilary. If I was shallow, I would vote for McCain rather than voting my conscience simply so I could increase my chance of seeing her, as well as Cindy McCain who I also find attractive for the next four years. But my vote is still for Barr.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 7:56:14 PM
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Why is it Palin failed to 'parent' well by firing Monegan, but Monegan was perfectly justified in protecting a bad cop?
The whole point about Sarah Palin wanting Wooten out was that is was strictly personal.
She had to follow procedures to follow, and decided instead to take a shortcut thru Monegan's career when he wouldn't do her bidding. In other words, if Palin wanted Wooten out, why did Monegan have to pay for her grudge?
Finally, Todd Palin had no right getting involved in the internal state question of whether Wooten should have been fired or not. Todd Palin is not a state employee, and has no business squatting around his wife's offices, nor pressuring state employees on any issue.
Doesn't the guy have a job? Because he seems to have an awful lot of free time on his hands.
Is this just pure speculation on your part? Or, are you finding facts to fit your perspective in selected news pieces? And, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands as well to go online Palinbashing. I'm also guessing you're not married.
Thanx Todd!
You said it better than I could have said it myself.
zamdad -
>I AM married (we have 2 teenagers)
>My opinions are based on reading the Branchflower report (PDF) online.
Palin's poor supervision of her subordinates (and the husband!) to the point that they were exceeding even the Governor's authority had they been acting in her behalf.
Palin was a poor "parent" of state government because she let them do whatever they wanted.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/12/2008 9:12:25 PM
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Sarah Palin is hiding the fact that she is ignorant of the issues, uneducated about government, and a general drag on a truly conservative agenda.
Since I want McCain the socialist to lose, I am genuinely amused by the effort, energy, and funding that lil' Sarah's rabid fanclub puts into their idol worship of her. Their enthusiastic and mindless support for this nonentity is actually backfiring and keeping McCain from delivering a real campaign, and the Marxists under Obama are probably going to clean the GOP up.
It is funny how Palin's supporters will go to any length to defend her. If Sarah had an abortion, it would suddenly be a sacrament to these people.
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