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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:12:17 AM
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rgsoundguy
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I know many in these forums consider this "throwing away" a vote.
Do you admit that it's a vote that carries with it no power to change anything?
Why not vote for one of the two candidates that you believe will cause the "least" amount of harm. Then in the next four years work your tail off to build up the party/candidate you believe is "best" for the job and then use that "power" you wheel to make some real change.
I don't disagree with you that maybe Barr would be a better candidate. My agrument is why allow the "worse" candidate into office whom we believe will take away more of our freedom, rights and liberities and take us further down a road that we don't want to go down?
Actually, if the "lesser of evils" realizes that he is losing votes to a more principled candidate. He may actually grow a conscience and do the right thing. My vote is going to Barr as well.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:20:59 AM
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JimboFletch
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Actually, if the "lesser of evils" realizes that he is losing votes to a more principled candidate. He may actually grow a conscience and do the right thing. My vote is going to Barr as well.
I respect your right to make that choice but, in all honesty, it seems like the proverbial tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear if it makes a sound.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:25:18 AM
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P31W
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He may actually grow a conscience and do the right thing.
If you are going to dream, DREAM BIG! 
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:27:15 AM
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P31W
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Actually, if the "lesser of evils" realizes that he is losing votes to a more principled candidate. He may actually grow a conscience and do the right thing. My vote is going to Barr as well.
One of the tactics in politics is to have people on the ballot who will split your apponets vote. Its as old as the hills. Obama is "glad" Barr is on the ballot. He loves the fact that you are others are going to vote for Barr.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:31:20 AM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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its pretty disgusting when i hear people say about palin 'She's a hottie'
is that any respectful way to talk to someone who might become president of the USA?
Even that is disgusting to me and im not a Palin fan.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:33:33 AM
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P31W
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It's been so long since someone called me a "hottie"!!!! I wish they would! It would make me smile - even laugh out loud and hit my husband in the chest. Tell him he better watch out!
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 9:58:06 AM
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Sarah Palin is hiding her
Christianity.
I see nothing Christ-like in her attacks and lies.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 10:29:30 AM
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P31W
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At least she admits to praying to God for guidance and proclaims the word of God as her guide in life.
Obama ways the bible is of no value in ruling a country. Reminds me of the signature passage you have posted Tracy. Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Obama belives he is such a great man that he even mocks God. When he mocks God's words he is mocking God Himself.
Do you believe Obama is telling a lie when he says we cannot use the bible to help us govern? to know what is right and what is wrong? to know what is truth and what is false?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 10:37:52 AM
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Do you believe Obama is telling a lie when he says we cannot use the bible to help us govern? to know what is right and what is wrong? to know what is truth and what is false?
Of course he is lying.
WE should use the Bible for EVERYTHING!
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 11:36:57 AM
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All she had to do was follow the rules and this wouldn't even be an issue. She allowed her personaly life to effect her professional life and that is wrong.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 11:39:27 AM
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Do you believe Obama is telling a lie when he says we cannot use the bible to help us govern? to know what is right and what is wrong? to know what is truth and what is false?
Of course he is lying.
WE should use the Bible for EVERYTHING!
Hey Trace
Then where is Sarah telling a lie... if I may ask?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 11:59:36 AM
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I'm stinking rich and my family knows and hobnobs with lots of politicians and government administrators (NY, federal, and European). Doesn't make me an "expert" but I'm not any LESS than you.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 12:23:57 PM
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P31W
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What makes you an expert in the area of government or economics pr foreign policy? Just wondering if I am reading the words of a doer (lots of experience in these types of matters) or a talker (someone with little to no experience)?
I asked you this question.
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Doesn't make me an "expert" but I'm not any LESS than you.
This is your reply. 
Like I said. I like to know who I reading and what level of expertise they have or if they have any facts to back up what they throw out in a world wide web.
You answered my question.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 12:43:50 PM
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ekserekseez
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You answered my question.
And what's your expertise? I told you.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 12:49:17 PM
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ekserekseez
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its pretty disgusting when i hear people say about palin 'She's a hottie'
I agree. Palin is disgusting and there is nothing hot about her, except her irrational temper.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 1:25:02 PM
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ekserekseez
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p31w, you asked for my expertise and I told you. I had also previously stated that I never claimed to be an "expert," just that my opinion is as valid as anyone else's.
I asked you for the courtesy of the same information and you have not yet replied. Is there a reason you don't want to define your level of expertise for us?
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 1:28:53 PM
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HighPlainsDrifter
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I agree. Palin is disgusting and there is nothing hot about her, except her irrational temper.
Nice.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 1:48:55 PM
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ekserekseez
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Nice
Actually, not so nice. Palin is hiding an almost maniacal ambition. Luckily, her reach overextends her grasp.
She is also hiding the fact that she is a socialist in fiscal policy. Fox News has reported her lack of fiscal responsibility.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 1:53:51 PM
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P31W
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Palin is hiding her complete ignorance of all things economic and fiscal.
So you are a rich person's kid and you use that experience to make the above claim.
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I asked you for the courtesy of the same information and you have not yet replied. Is there a reason you don't want to define your level of expertise for us?
Sorry for the delay. I have been busy on the Bible/Obama thread.
My level of expertise? Oh I have none other than I do know how to make money and an not an idiot with it comes to money.
Now do you have any "proof" to give us to support your opinion? Or is that just your "born rich" gut feeling?
Incase you ask me another question I may have to respond later. I do have lots of work to do and someone to get elected into office Nov. 4th. I am busy busy lately.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 2:50:59 PM
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I think everyone needs to take a step back and calm down.
Palin might be hiding other things and she might not but there are things that do call her ethics into question and those things are fair to ask about.
It's fair to ask if she's such a supporter for special needs children then why did she cut the Alsaks funding for the Special Olympics by half.
Maybe she believes that it should be supported by individuals and not the government.
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It's fair to ask if she was against the "bridge to nowhere" then why did she lobby for it at first and accept the money for it before turning against it.
I'd like to know the answer to that as well
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It is fair to ask what her foriegn relation qualifications are because the RNC has been touting her experience in that regard.
Those are the kinds of questions that are actually fair and reasonable.
She has more than the other parties Presidential candidate
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 4:03:05 PM
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Jhud
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Palin's poor supervision of her subordinates (and the husband!) to the point that they were exceeding even the Governor's authority had they been acting in her behalf.
Palin was a poor "parent" of state government because she let them do whatever they wanted.
So you are basing this assesment on the presumption that she fired a subordinate who was protecting a bad cop.
Would this be good oversite by any measure?
This is why liberalism makes no sense.
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RE: What is Sarah Palin Hiding? - 10/13/2008 4:35:48 PM
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Jhud
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You can not be that dense!
But obtuse is becoming a distinct possibility!
She was well within her rights to fire a subordinate, she was not within her rights to allow a vendetta against a cop, good or bad.
At least, that's what I got out of it - according to the Branchflower report.
I, personally, think she didn't have a clue what was going on with all the behind the scenes stuff her people (and husband) were doing; That's what makes it bad.
I know you conservatives like less government oversight, but don't you think thats carrying it a little far?!
The entire original case was based on the firing of Monegan; only after it became evident that she was fully in her rights to do so (as you now admit) was there concern about others talking to state officials. And had she not been governor, then there would have been no problem with the same people making the same inquiries (as occurred before she was governor) - of course, then the state officials ignored those inquiries.
So to sum up, the liberal position is, pursuing the removal of bad cops is ok, as long as you are in no position to actually effect the removal of a bad cop.
And this explains why there is still a bad cop on duty in Alaska.
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