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ORIGINAL: Dinana

Donna apparently hasn't noticed that we have something OTHER than the Baptist hymnal in the pew racks anyway! We use something called Celebration hymal or something, but she's right - we really don't use them. So sad. We're loosing part singing in the congregation from the under 40 crowd.

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ORIGINAL: GVfan

We don't use hymnals any more. The words are on the big screens. Guess they figure we don't need to see the various "parts" any more! That's a shame because I've been trying to learn tenor and it's easier for me when I can see the music.

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ORIGINAL: jchaz

Saw the 'new' hymnal in LifeWay the other day. Wasn't too impressed.

We use the old "redback" Church of God "Church Hymnal"... except ours are actually GREEN! Always thought it was funny we called 'em "redback". They were actually MAROON!

We also have the older "brown" version of the "Baptist Hymnal", but I don't care for it too much.

We're planning on getting a projector & screen for preservice announcements, and maybe sermon points, but I don't think I'll be using it regularly for song lyrics. I just don't like NBOT having people singing harmony! I might use it a little for a special chorus from time to time, but not routinely. I might even do some video segments to enhance a choir special, but again, that won't happen too much, either. I certainly think that these can easily be overdone, and I've always believed 'less is more' when it comes to that sort of thing.

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ORIGINAL: GVfan

We don't use hymnals any more. The words are on the big screens. Guess they figure we don't need to see the various "parts" any more! That's a shame because I've been trying to learn tenor and it's easier for me when I can see the music.

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ORIGINAL: PaulPate

Not being Southern Baptist, I haven't seen the new Baptist hymnal, but I would like to comment on using hymnals in general. I am another who bemoans the exclusive practice of "singing off the wall". I don't mind that for openong choruses, or praise and worship, but please don't take away my hymnal. At the church I attend and lead the singing, we use two hymnals. On Sunday morning we have a "called choir", where we invite anyone who would like to come to the choir and sing. At this time we use a song book called "Songs We Love To Sing". It is a compilation of convention style songs from the annual books The Church of God (Cleveland) used to put out, and some of the older standard hymns. On Sunday nights we have congregtional singing where we use "The Church Hymnal" otherwise known as "The Redback Hymnal". When we have visitors most of them comment favorably on our use of hymnals. What I fail to understand, is that so many people seem to think it has to be all one way. We do sing some praise and worship choruses. There are instances where they are most appropriate. There also are instances where nothing can suitably replace the choir and/or congregational singing from hymnals where all the parts are utilized. There is no reason that there cannot be a mix of old and new, hymns and choruses, and I believe that they all should be where everyone can participate.

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

I'm a member of an SBC church. We have Baptist Hymnals but they are circa 1992. We use screens for the lyrics.

I also play in our church orchestra. In order for the congregation to have the sheet music, we would need at least 3 different books in the pews to switch between - and sometimes choir octavos or collections. It's just impractical to have all those available or pause between each while people flip through the different books.

A hymnal in the pew used to be nice for the handful of us that could actually read music, but they are now too limiting, IMO.

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ORIGINAL: clout

Your right Jimbo. Very few of our congregants can read music. Those that can, don't get enough practice to do it effectively. We are raising a group of worshipers that can only sing a lead line, swing and sway, and this concerns me.

I have been SB for over 55 years and visit many different denominations, and have noticed that a good percentage of Wall Readers don't even participate. But as they say, this is 2008 and we must keep up with the times.

I love a song book and also using the Bible. Some churches are even puting the message text on the Wall.

I would like to say, "Gorbechave tear down that wall". (is that how you spell Gorbechave?)

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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

They don't use Baptist hymnals in the United Methodist churches.

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ORIGINAL: Patrick.Watts

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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

They don't use Baptist hymnals in the United Methodist churches.

Dave,

Would you use The Worship Hymnal?

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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Your church sounds great. I also think there should be a mix of music. My new church has three separate Sunday morning services - a contemplative, contemporary, and traditional. That forces you to make a decision about what type of music you want.

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ORIGINAL: PaulPate

Not being Southern Baptist, I haven't seen the new Baptist hymnal, but I would like to comment on using hymnals in general. I am another who bemoans the exclusive practice of "singing off the wall". I don't mind that for openong choruses, or praise and worship, but please don't take away my hymnal. At the church I attend and lead the singing, we use two hymnals. On Sunday morning we have a "called choir", where we invite anyone who would like to come to the choir and sing. At this time we use a song book called "Songs We Love To Sing". It is a compilation of convention style songs from the annual books The Church of God (Cleveland) used to put out, and some of the older standard hymns. On Sunday nights we have congregtional singing where we use "The Church Hymnal" otherwise known as "The Redback Hymnal". When we have visitors most of them comment favorably on our use of hymnals. What I fail to understand, is that so many people seem to think it has to be all one way. We do sing some praise and worship choruses. There are instances where they are most appropriate. There also are instances where nothing can suitably replace the choir and/or congregational singing from hymnals where all the parts are utilized. There is no reason that there cannot be a mix of old and new, hymns and choruses, and I believe that they all should be where everyone can participate.

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ORIGINAL: clout

When you think about paying $15.- $22. for one hymnal, maybe it is cheaper to sing off the wall.

Our church probably would have to order 800 to 1,000 hymnals. That could get expensive.

But I still like a hymnal

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When you think about paying $15.- $22. for one hymnal, maybe it is cheaper to sing off the wall.

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ORIGINAL: pastormiked

I prefer not to use a screen for messages, but wouldn't really have a problem with song lyrics. My opinion is when the scripture is on the screen (if the minister uses scripture, sad to say) it is easy for everyone to see, of course, but I feel it encourages what I call "Biblical Illiteracy". People are being taught not to use their Bibles or even bring their Bibles to church because one is provided for them in some congregations. I think it's important that we keep folks familiar with the Scriptures and that it's ok to underline, highlight, and know where to find the answers they're seeking. God's Word becomes so much more personal this way.