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RE: Prince Charles - 3/17/2006 8:04:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: TheProfessor Antichrist is a way of being. True Professor, But (he) will also be a person in the last days powered by Satan himself...
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RE: Prince Charles - 3/17/2006 8:06:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: TheProfessor man of sin - human sin son of perdition - result of spiritual ruin. Actually the Bible never personifies antichrist. John, who is the only one to use the word, never personified it. You are in error. Mankind is falling away from truth by leaps and bounds. The only man necessary to make that happen is each individual. Look in the mirror, not the news. Actually Professor, You might want to go back to the chalkboard on that. The Apostle Paul and Daniel personifies him very well indeed.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/17/2006 5:11:23 AM
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Thanks ted2, I appreciate the sites God Bless you and yours, YFIC
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/17/2006 10:16:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: TheProfessor Antichrist is a way of being. True Professor, But (he) will also be a person in the last days powered by Satan himself... According to which scripture?
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 3:43:00 AM
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Ted, please pass this on to the entire forum topic: For accurate and much more complete information on Prince Charles and his role as the future AntiChrist prophesied in scripture, see these the URLs of the publisher of Tim Cohen's books, including The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea, here: http://www.prophecyhouse.com (the book may be previewed here) http://www.prophecyhouse.com/order (detailed information about all of Tim Cohen's books and CD and DVD sets here) You folks could learn alot from the above URLs, as could everyone else attempting to examine this topic. Thanks.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 5:56:30 AM
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Hey, Your site crashed my browser. You might want to warn people that it loads a Java applet from the start, which is kind of strange anyway to load such a large file like that. Why not redesign the page into html or something. That's just a tip. On other notes, considering that Prince Charles has pretty much no power and it would take an act of the British Legislature to give him any power, I don't think he should be considered in the running of the AC. Just my 2 cents. Chris
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 4:43:15 PM
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This one is for you cow257: ..according to this one: 2 Thessalonians 2:4 (New King James Version) who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Simple Bible interpretation indicates a human being...,in order to sit down in the forth coming 3er Temple in Jesuralem. But the antichrist may be human and animal [beast ] all rolled into one big impressive being... a human being empowered by satan, with the capacity to manifest a non human entity that will sit down [ to rest its 'buttocks'] at some kind of chair or throne....Can you picture this scenario in you mind ?? I give you another one that ought to blow yours socks off... the antichrist may very well be a Therion or beast[ literally ],parte animal and part beast or just a beast 100% Check out a greek dictionary the word ' therion'. I will post an impressive commentary that KevinKevin ODonnell <kevinod223@...> left in a pre-wrath forum reference therion: Dan. 9:26 says, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation's are determined." I can agree with what you mean about the Roman Empire being the place from which the AC COMES FROM if...the "People" that Dan. 9:26 is talking about are the ones who destroyed the city and the temple in 70 AD. Something bothers me, though, about Dan. 9:26. What flood is it talking about where it says, "the end thereof shall be with a flood?" I don't recall there being a flood in 70 AD. I may be wrong. I just don't remember reading about it. Is this the same flood mentioned in Rev. 12:15-16? I have always understood that to mean the flood that the Serpent causes when the Jews try to escape to Petra during the reign of the AC. >>There WILL be some of ancient Rome in this new empire<< OR...just the Prince who is to come is the one from this "ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE." Does Dan. 9:26 really suggest that the AC's empire will actually come out of ancient Rome too? Or just the AC? I'm just referring to my out of the box thinking again. The foot is a completely different entity from the leg. I have a question for the Greek scholars as well. Rev. 13 calls the AC a Beast. The Greek for that word is "Therion." This is the same word used in ACts 28 where Paul was bitten by a venomous snake. According to Auer Arndt and Gingrich lexicon, and Vine's expository Dictionary, that meaning of Therion is, as Vines and company called it, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." There are Greek words that mean just an animal like tiger and etc. And there are Greek words that suggest a figurative sense meaning a human with a beastly nature. The word, Therion, is not those in Rev. 13. The Greek word for Beast in Rev. 13, Therion, as I have said means, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." It gives me the impression that this AC is more animal than human. What say you all. Need to know, Kevin
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 4:51:08 PM
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thuck Thank you brother thuck...did not know there were dvd's available.... Any links you guys find out there, please post. thanks, ted2
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 7:45:39 PM
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I don't remember any animal ever being called a prince, I always seen this as a person and one of royal lineage, anyway thanks for the links I will definately give them a try, and oh yeah, just for future reference please look up all the countries and many companies of the worldly Prince Charles is involved in,look up the old achives and see he has been very involved in the middle east peace plan and always has been behind the scenes of it all, and don't be surpised when he steps forward and tries to take the name prince of peace in the middle east, if not him keep an eye pealed to King Juan Carlos of Spain or his son the prince, as he has been asked to be present when they sign the peace deal and Jersalem is requesting his presents as he has been very actively involved and holds the title King of Israel and can make claim to the glory and honor of the role at anytime. Type in either name into a search engine and it will show you what their claims to fames are lately.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 7:56:58 PM
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hmmm, prince charles as the anti-christ. i highly doubt it, but nevertheless, you have all given me something to think about.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 7:57:44 PM
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It is certainly a unique perspective.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/27/2006 8:14:27 PM
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I concur, an interesting topic.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/30/2006 2:26:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: ted2 This one is for you cow257: ..according to this one: 2 Thessalonians 2:4 (New King James Version) who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Simple Bible interpretation indicates a human being...,in order to sit down in the forth coming 3er Temple in Jesuralem. But the antichrist may be human and animal [beast ] all rolled into one big impressive being... a human being empowered by satan, with the capacity to manifest a non human entity that will sit down [ to rest its 'buttocks'] at some kind of chair or throne....Can you picture this scenario in you mind ?? I give you another one that ought to blow yours socks off... the antichrist may very well be a Therion or beast[ literally ],parte animal and part beast or just a beast 100% Check out a greek dictionary the word ' therion'. I will post an impressive commentary that KevinKevin ODonnell <kevinod223@...> left in a pre-wrath forum reference therion: Dan. 9:26 says, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation's are determined." I can agree with what you mean about the Roman Empire being the place from which the AC COMES FROM if...the "People" that Dan. 9:26 is talking about are the ones who destroyed the city and the temple in 70 AD. Something bothers me, though, about Dan. 9:26. What flood is it talking about where it says, "the end thereof shall be with a flood?" I don't recall there being a flood in 70 AD. I may be wrong. I just don't remember reading about it. Is this the same flood mentioned in Rev. 12:15-16? I have always understood that to mean the flood that the Serpent causes when the Jews try to escape to Petra during the reign of the AC. >>There WILL be some of ancient Rome in this new empire<< OR...just the Prince who is to come is the one from this "ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE." Does Dan. 9:26 really suggest that the AC's empire will actually come out of ancient Rome too? Or just the AC? I'm just referring to my out of the box thinking again. The foot is a completely different entity from the leg. I have a question for the Greek scholars as well. Rev. 13 calls the AC a Beast. The Greek for that word is "Therion." This is the same word used in ACts 28 where Paul was bitten by a venomous snake. According to Auer Arndt and Gingrich lexicon, and Vine's expository Dictionary, that meaning of Therion is, as Vines and company called it, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." There are Greek words that mean just an animal like tiger and etc. And there are Greek words that suggest a figurative sense meaning a human with a beastly nature. The word, Therion, is not those in Rev. 13. The Greek word for Beast in Rev. 13, Therion, as I have said means, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." It gives me the impression that this AC is more animal than human. What say you all. Need to know, Kevin Hey, old chap. Didn't catch Prince Charles in there anywhere. Didn't see any antichrist in your scriptural references, either. Don't mean to rain on your parade, old boy. Your AC sounds like Arnold Schwartzeneggar, though.
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/30/2006 8:28:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: ted2 This one is for you cow257: ..according to this one: 2 Thessalonians 2:4 (New King James Version) who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Simple Bible interpretation indicates a human being...,in order to sit down in the forth coming 3er Temple in Jesuralem. But the antichrist may be human and animal [beast ] all rolled into one big impressive being... a human being empowered by satan, with the capacity to manifest a non human entity that will sit down [ to rest its 'buttocks'] at some kind of chair or throne....Can you picture this scenario in you mind ?? I give you another one that ought to blow yours socks off... the antichrist may very well be a Therion or beast[ literally ],parte animal and part beast or just a beast 100% Check out a greek dictionary the word ' therion'. I will post an impressive commentary that KevinKevin ODonnell <kevinod223@...> left in a pre-wrath forum reference therion: Dan. 9:26 says, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation's are determined." I can agree with what you mean about the Roman Empire being the place from which the AC COMES FROM if...the "People" that Dan. 9:26 is talking about are the ones who destroyed the city and the temple in 70 AD. Something bothers me, though, about Dan. 9:26. What flood is it talking about where it says, "the end thereof shall be with a flood?" I don't recall there being a flood in 70 AD. I may be wrong. I just don't remember reading about it. Is this the same flood mentioned in Rev. 12:15-16? I have always understood that to mean the flood that the Serpent causes when the Jews try to escape to Petra during the reign of the AC. >>There WILL be some of ancient Rome in this new empire<< OR...just the Prince who is to come is the one from this "ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE." Does Dan. 9:26 really suggest that the AC's empire will actually come out of ancient Rome too? Or just the AC? I'm just referring to my out of the box thinking again. The foot is a completely different entity from the leg. I have a question for the Greek scholars as well. Rev. 13 calls the AC a Beast. The Greek for that word is "Therion." This is the same word used in ACts 28 where Paul was bitten by a venomous snake. According to Auer Arndt and Gingrich lexicon, and Vine's expository Dictionary, that meaning of Therion is, as Vines and company called it, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." There are Greek words that mean just an animal like tiger and etc. And there are Greek words that suggest a figurative sense meaning a human with a beastly nature. The word, Therion, is not those in Rev. 13. The Greek word for Beast in Rev. 13, Therion, as I have said means, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." It gives me the impression that this AC is more animal than human. What say you all. Need to know, Kevin Hey, old chap. Didn't catch Prince Charles in there anywhere. Didn't see any antichrist in your scriptural references, either. Don't mean to rain on your parade, old boy. Your AC sounds like Arnold Schwartzeneggar, though. Cow257, I thought ted2 answered the question you asked me earlier very well. Do you not see this either? Does the man of sin not fit your antichrist definition?
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/30/2006 10:24:10 PM
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Sorry about the long nap. Here's a bit of an eyeopener: Christian News, Updated Daily - Christian Today > Prince Charles Opens Interfaith Venue http://www.christiantoday.com/news/society/prince.charles.opens.interfaith.venue/877.htm Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes', and your 'No', 'No'. (Mt 5:37) Prince Charles Opens Interfaith Venue A new interfaith venue has been launched by Prince Charles in London this week to promote understanding between the major faiths in the UK with a view to safeguarding peace. Posted: Friday, May 5 , 2006, 6:47 (BST) Prince Charles launched a new venue in London Thursday to be used as a meeting place for members of different religions to foster peace and reconciliation. (Reuters/Kimberly White) Prince Charles launched a new venue in London Thursday to be used as a meeting place for members of different religions to explore common challenges and undertake scriptural exploration with a view to fostering peace and reconciliation. The goat-hair Bedouin tent from Saudi Arabia has been set up in the grounds of the former St Ethelburga’s Church, which was rebuilt after an IRA bomb destroyed most of the building in 1993. Prince Charles returned to unveil the new venue this week following his inauguration of the rebuilt church as a centre for peace and reconciliation in 2002. He told the various faith representatives gathered for the launch that there was a need for understanding as different religions attempt to “explain the nature of mystery,” reports AFP. The heir to the throne urged that with greater understanding of different religions, “we might perhaps reduce the level of conflict and violence and misunderstanding”. He also urged the multi-faith audience not to “overdo the way in which we decide that we know everything”. The audience included the Bishop of London, the Rt Rev Richard Chartres, who said: "Part of the gospel agenda in London is to find fresh ways of relating to our neighbours who practice other faiths. An introverted and fearful church is a poor witness to Jesus Christ. "It is in this spirit that a new meeting place is being opened this morning at the St Ethelburga Centre by the Prince of Wales.” He continued: “Our intention at St Ethelburga’s is to create “a big tent” where all can feel at home and where the role of host can be assumed by different people in turn.” Today we have an unprecedented opportunity to weave a strong fabric from diverse threads and build a multiracial, multicultural and multiethnic international society. Former US president Bill Clinton The venue has been established in order to allow Jews, Christians and Muslims to come together to explore some of the contemporary challenges common to the three major faiths as well as to conduct research into the Torah, Bible and Quran to gain wider understanding and inspiration. The Bishop of London stressed, however, that the interfaith work would not in any way compromise the distinctiveness of the three faiths. “While the encounter is not polemical there is no covert agenda which minimises the differences between faiths. In the case of the three faiths which in different ways look back to Abraham it is our common conviction that there is no “fourth position” from which our faiths can be seen as mere local editions of some universal spiritual truth,” he said. Syncretism is not the agenda and indeed the experience of scriptural reasoning for a Christian is often to sharpen the sense of the uniqueness of the incarnation as well as identifying much common ground.” The launch was also attended by Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks and representatives of the Baha'i, Buddhist, Jain, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Sikh and Muslim faiths. Support also came in from notable figures unable to attend the event, including U2’s Bono, who said the “'tent project' is taking a crucial lead in starting a historic conversation” that pitches the three main religions “in terms of what they have in common”. Other words of support and encouragement came from Desmond Tutu and former US president Bill Clinton, who said: “Today we have an unprecedented opportunity to weave a strong fabric from diverse threads and build a multiracial, multicultural and multiethnic international society.” He went on to describe ‘The Tent’ as a “wonderful step toward encouraging others to embrace our diversity, respect our differences, and unite around our shared dreams and values”. It seems to me that the world would be extremely grateful to the Prince if he could unite these three religions that seem so at odds with one another. Especially with certain of these religions hell bent on world domination. Indeed, they may even want to proclaim him "savior of mankind" as the Brazilians already have. Who knows? Maybe they'll even follow his lead and get "chipped", for strictly security reasons of course. You never know who might want to steal your identity. Better be safe than sorry, old chap. In Christ, Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 5/31/2006 5:03:23 PM
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ORIGINAL: ted2 This one is for you cow257: ..according to this one: 2 Thessalonians 2:4 (New King James Version) who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Simple Bible interpretation indicates a human being...,in order to sit down in the forth coming 3er Temple in Jesuralem. But the antichrist may be human and animal [beast ] all rolled into one big impressive being... a human being empowered by satan, with the capacity to manifest a non human entity that will sit down [ to rest its 'buttocks'] at some kind of chair or throne....Can you picture this scenario in you mind ?? I give you another one that ought to blow yours socks off... the antichrist may very well be a Therion or beast[ literally ],parte animal and part beast or just a beast 100% Check out a greek dictionary the word ' therion'. I will post an impressive commentary that KevinKevin ODonnell <kevinod223@...> left in a pre-wrath forum reference therion: Dan. 9:26 says, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation's are determined." I can agree with what you mean about the Roman Empire being the place from which the AC COMES FROM if...the "People" that Dan. 9:26 is talking about are the ones who destroyed the city and the temple in 70 AD. Something bothers me, though, about Dan. 9:26. What flood is it talking about where it says, "the end thereof shall be with a flood?" I don't recall there being a flood in 70 AD. I may be wrong. I just don't remember reading about it. Is this the same flood mentioned in Rev. 12:15-16? I have always understood that to mean the flood that the Serpent causes when the Jews try to escape to Petra during the reign of the AC. >>There WILL be some of ancient Rome in this new empire<< OR...just the Prince who is to come is the one from this "ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE." Does Dan. 9:26 really suggest that the AC's empire will actually come out of ancient Rome too? Or just the AC? I'm just referring to my out of the box thinking again. The foot is a completely different entity from the leg. I have a question for the Greek scholars as well. Rev. 13 calls the AC a Beast. The Greek for that word is "Therion." This is the same word used in ACts 28 where Paul was bitten by a venomous snake. According to Auer Arndt and Gingrich lexicon, and Vine's expository Dictionary, that meaning of Therion is, as Vines and company called it, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." There are Greek words that mean just an animal like tiger and etc. And there are Greek words that suggest a figurative sense meaning a human with a beastly nature. The word, Therion, is not those in Rev. 13. The Greek word for Beast in Rev. 13, Therion, as I have said means, "of animal like being of a supernatural kind." It gives me the impression that this AC is more animal than human. What say you all. Need to know, Kevin Hey, old chap. Didn't catch Prince Charles in there anywhere. Didn't see any antichrist in your scriptural references, either. Don't mean to rain on your parade, old boy. Your AC sounds like Arnold Schwartzeneggar, though. Cow257, I thought ted2 answered the question you asked me earlier very well. Do you not see this either? Does the man of sin not fit your antichrist definition? First, none of the scriptures says "antichrist", so the label is inferred only. Secondly, the case for Prince Charles is not made.
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RE: Prince Charles - 6/2/2006 4:26:54 PM
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Well,once you read Tim Cohen's "Antichrist and a cup of tea ", your views on this person will change drastically... Forget about King Juan Carlos. He sits below Charles in the lineage chart that identifies the a.c. It is an impresive book that took the writer around 10 years to research. He has updated his web site to include new products that will help in our understanding.. Thank you Isaiah 29...please if you find any web sites relating tothis sugject, please post. ted2
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RE: Prince Charles - 6/3/2006 11:32:02 AM
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Dear Ted, I thoroughly agree with you concerning the impact reading Tim Cohen's book, The Anti-Christ and a Cup of Tea, has on one's perception of the bonny Prince Charles, although I do question some of Cohen's conclusions vis-a-vis Charles and his role as anti-Christ. There is also a mounting pile of evidence pointing to his son, Prince William, who is perhaps the most beloved Prince on planet earth at this time. Charles' role could be that of preparing the way for William, who was named after William the Conqueror. William's second name is "Arthur", as in the return of the "once and future" King Arthur. William's mother, the Lady Diana, was named after "Diana" the "Queen of Heavens. I've been doing a study of opposites regarding the anti-Christ assuming that the anti-Christ will actually not just be "against" Christ, but in life actually the "opposite" of Christ. Now follow the bouncing ball. William is the son of Charles (whose name means "man", and Diana (named after the Goddess Diana, "Queen of the Heavens"). Hence William symbolically could be seen as the offspring of the union between a man (Charles) and the Goddess (Diana). Jesus was the offspring of the union of a woman and God. Jesus was born to Mary in a manger attended only by only by humble shepherds/ William was born at St. Mary's Hospital attended by the best physicians. Jesus was born in the dead of winter/ William was born during the height of the summer, the solstice, June 21. Jesus birth was heralded by a star, William's birth was heralded by a solar eclipse. Jesus was born in poverty/ William was born into fabulous wealth. Jesus royalty was hidden/ William's royalty is proclaimed throughout the world. Jesus' birth was unpublicized, Herod the king of Israel did not even know it had occurred./ William's birth was the most publicized birth in history. Jesus' "father" died when he was still young, from then on He was raised by His mother. William's mother died when he was still young, from then on He was raised by his father. Jesus "had no beauty that we should desire Him" Is. 53: 2/ William is incredibly handsome. Jesus came into His heavenly kingdom which had been prepared for Him by His heavenly Father/William will come into his earthly kingdom which has been prepared for him by his earthly father. These are just a few of the antithetical anomalies we see between the life of Jesus Christ and the life of Prince William. Here are some good links to study http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/antichrist/1.html http://home.tiscali.de/alex.sk/A_Springmeier.html In Christ, Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 7/3/2006 5:42:57 PM
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Thank you 'thuck' for the links you send us. I went ahead and bought some of the dvds and they are very good...highly recommended. I believe Tin Cohen is right on target. Give praise to the Lord Jesus for this gift of understanding via Tim Cohen. Love, ted x.
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RE: Prince Charles - 7/3/2006 9:48:48 PM
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ORIGINAL: Isaiah29 These are just a few of the antithetical anomalies we see between the life of Jesus Christ and the life of Prince William. You can find antithetical anomalies and similarities between a number of people. This reminds me of those comparison/contrasts between Lincoln and JFK. It's interesting and entertaining, but I wouldn't get fatalistic about them.
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RE: Prince Charles - 7/5/2006 9:16:52 AM
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Hey, I'm a web developer, does that mean I could say who the anti-christ is? I'll be back with proof that Bill Gates is the anti-christ and Steve Jobs is priest who does miracles for him.
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