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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/17/2005 4:48:20 PM
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Georgiagirl
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Quote: "If Jesus says that to divorce and marry another while one has a living spouse is adultery(having unlawful relations with one who is NOT your spouse)........why do we think that Jesus WILL bless this? Are His words not from the Father Himself passed down to those who say they love the Lord"? In Him, Cindy
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This is getting old, so this will be my last reply to y'all on this subject.
It IS being a Pharisee to try and heap false guilt on people who God has set free and forgiven!!!!!
I WAS in adultery........ UNTIL I got born again 10 yrs ago. My old life with ALL of its past sins is gone. That includes my first marriage, divorce and remarriage. I am a NEW creation in ChristJesus, the old has gone and the new has come. I will NOT let someone put me into bondage to a sin that has been covered and erased by the spotless blood of the Lamb. It is an insult to God to live in guilt from a sin that He no longer acknowledges.
My DH just got born again a few months ago. He could NOT have receieved Gods grace, mercy and freedom from the bondage of addiction if we were living in a continual state of adultery. I did not think such a radical transformation was possible but God has really done and is doing an awesome work in my husband- to God be the glory!! According to some, he would have had to separate from me to get saved. He didnt!! I can tell you he is already a very powerful witness for the Lord and is growing in grace and love. God has so blessed his life and we have saw radical, MIRACULOUS answers to DH's prayers. NONE of this would be happening if we were "living in sin"!!!!
I feel very sorry for people who cannot accept God's total forgiveness, grace and mercy. It must grieve God to see His Son's sacrifice thought so little of. I beg y'all to please do some serious, prayerful study on what the death of Christ has accomplished for us believers. I don't think you quite understand how wide and deep is the love and forgiveness of our merciful Savior.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/17/2005 9:10:53 PM
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/17/2005 11:02:23 PM
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My DH just got born again a few months ago. He could NOT have receieved Gods grace, mercy and freedom from the bondage of addiction if we were living in a continual state of adultery.
That is not true. EVERY person who becomes born again is entrenched in some sin or another. The Lord doesn't wait until we are "sinfree" before He will 'deliver' us.
What is true is that the Lord is merciful many times to deal with one sin at a time, but that doesn't mean the ones He hasn't yet addressed are not sin.......they are just "unknown" to the person as of that point. This is true for all of us. Most all people who come to saving faith in Jesus and don't know all their sins, still practice sin, yet the Lord's Grace is extended. Blessings in Him, Cindy
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/17/2005 11:07:59 PM
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Hi Lisa,
I hope my posts didn't sound like I was attacking anyone. My intention is to discuss scripture and Christian practice, not pick apart anyone's person or throw insults in a nonbiblical/ungodly manner.......Blessings in Him, Cindy
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/18/2005 9:56:42 AM
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Thank you Neuronstatic and Keabird for taking the time and effort to fully explain not just what was said in scripture but what was meant. I was brought up in very legalistic church setting. I can see this so much more clearly the older I get. Divorce and remarriage was one of those unacceptable things. To get divorced was just shameful.
Remarriage was even more unacceptable. However over the years I have felt God pointing me at other couple's and saying "see how produtive they are in the church. see how God is using them. See how good of a marriage relationship they are displaying before the community. This is their second marriage and their former spouses are still living." In fact I am surprised at how many of those couples who seems to be the near perfect couple are indeed in their 2nd marriage.
I look forward to my 2nd marriage when the day comes that God chooses to bless me in that way.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/19/2005 10:36:45 AM
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My old life with ALL of its past sins is gone. That includes my first marriage, divorce and remarriage.
Only sins are repentable. The lawful marriage is a not a sin from which someone can repent. To throw the marriage into the pile of the sins of divorce and remarriage is blasphemy. It also endorses the ongoing sin of adultery, a license being granted to continue in that sin on the grounds that the remarriage is forgiven. Well a thief wouldn't be allowed to continue stealing because he was honest enough to admit that stealing is wrong, yet that liberty of continuance is granted to adulterers.
Jesus is deadly serious when it comes to his definition of adultery that includes the state of being remarried. He is defending the institution of marriage as Christians are supposed to do at the expense of their own interests.
The truth hurts sometimes. Real bad.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/19/2005 12:54:57 PM
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The truth hurts sometimes. Real bad.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/19/2005 3:50:50 PM
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/19/2005 6:34:25 PM
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Here's a verse which talks about forsaking one's sin in order to receive mercy...
Proverbs 28:13
He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.
So does this mean that if we don't confess and forsake, then we don't have mercy???
This verse doesn't say just confess, but confess and forsake...
I believe the principle of confessing and forsaking fits in perfectly with the rest of Scripture...
And if remarriage is adultery and therefore sin, how does one confess and forsake it???
YHWH bless... 
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/20/2005 12:28:18 AM
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What is often seen in discussions on the sanctity of marriage is the bringing in of a perception of mercy as a means of pitting mercy against truth.
An extreme example of this is those who say God is too merciful to have an eternal damnation waiting for those who love not the truth. Yes, he is merciful but his mercy doesn't supercede His truth of what he has said must come to pass. He also loves judgment. It is his judgment that on account of marriage being fashioned after the pattern of Adam and Eve's marriage as demonstrated by Jesus making the same pronouncement over all contemporary marriages as was made over that first one; ["they are no more twain but one flesh, what therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder"] that all present day lawful marriages possess identical status as if each wife had been literally made from her husbands rib.
Those pushing for allowing divorce (whether it is for adultery only or whatever, the fact remains that they are pushing for divorce) can be asked the question: If that first lawful wife had been literally made from your rib, would you agree that you are one flesh, husband and wife, which cannot be altered unless one of you dies?
By agreeing with this, the remarried should be able to see that that first lawful marriage has not been dissolved by the divorce any more than a divorce paper could have altered the past historical fact that Eve had been made from Adam's rib and was one flesh with him until death.
For the remarried to not agree with this is paramount to calling Jesus a liar. Jesus, equating their first lawful marriage to that of Adam and Eve by making the same pronouncement over both must be regarded as a liar.
Paul, when referring to God's judgments made reference to those who turned the truth of God into a lie. In fact, the state of having done that can in of itself be a form of a cause and effect type of judgment.
Like those who receive not a love for the truth who are sent a strong delusion that they might be damned for finding pleasure in unrighteousness.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/20/2005 8:47:33 AM
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You know, the basic problem the "cannot remarry" folks have with getting married after divorce is that they perceive divorce as "the sin". Divorce was the awful and terrible consequence of sin, not the sin itself. What everyone needs to remember is that marriage takes two to make it work. It only takes one to destroy it. It can be destroyed by the sins of one.
Now what really, really bugs me, is when I as the victim of divorce are being told 2 things by those who have the opinion that it is wrong to remarry that are simply not true.
The first thing I am told is "you have sinned because you have divorced" and the second thing I am told is "you can never marry again because you have sinned".
Now let us look at the first assertion, that I have sinned by being divorced. How true is that? Was God in sin when He divorced His people? Jesus said Himself that if someone is divorced for the other's sexual immorality in the marriage then they are not in sin. Where did Jesus or God say that divorce was the sin? No where.
If we continue to look at that assertion, that divorce is the sin, we find 3 points worth noting. Point A is that divorce is not sin. Point B is that not all those who are divorced are the culprits in the sin that led to the divorce. And Point C is that there did have to be sin that led to the divorce.
So then, it follows that if I was not the one sinning to bring about the divorce, I am not the culprit that led to the divorce, and I am not in sin by being divorced, where then do you find fault?
Ah, but you say "we find no fault in you for being divorced, only for remarriage".
Ok, now that I can say "there is no fault in me in my divorced state", I am not in any marital sinful state. And in fact, as Jesus said in Matthew 5 and 19, there are reasons for allowing a divorce. And Paul said that when a believer spouse is left by a non-believer spouse, the person who is left is free from the bondage of the marital relationship.
Now let's go back a bit further. Divorce is by definition "the termination of the marriage covenant and the breaking of the bonds of marriage releasing both spouses from their vows." There can be no dispute of that fact of how divorce was conceived by Moses and the ancient Hebrews. It is a point of fact. That is what divorce is.
And now we have a scenario where two people are married and then one does something evil and brings about the divorce. The innocent spouse may have been less than ideal in the marriage, because all of us are human and prone to errors. But so was the other person. So while both gave reasons for not being completely happy in the marriage, it was the choices of the errant spouse that led to the divorce.
So the two spouses cannot reconcile and one leaves (i.e. divorces). Because we are called to peace, our conduct in the divorce must remain upright. We should not make a divorce a case of vengeance from either side (that is God's job). Now when the spouses are divorced, by definition they are completely released from their marriage covenant, in both civil and spiritual duties. If there are children, their duties and requirements as parents remain in effect.
So I am divorced, and not by my choosing. I am by definition, free from the marriage covenant. Any sins I committed in the marriage have been repented and forgiven. I am at peace, and I am free to remarry.
But I know some of you would say "no you are not". However, because there is overwhelming evidence to support marriage, divorce, and remarriage laws in the OT, and because Jesus Himself says that there are valid reasons for divorce, I am free to remarry.
Anyone who disagrees that remarriage for the blameless is possible, is quite mistaken. And to debate the point further actually increases the degree of blame you now share for that false teaching that is against the very principles of God and Jesus. I see no other way to understand this concept taking the scriptures in their entireity.
If you find this understanding too difficult to take because it doesn't fit your box for God, I suggest you get rid of all boxes and instead of trying to adapt God's word to your ideas, adapt your ideas to God's word.
I am neuronstatic. This is my God-given belief and my conviction. And in 2 days I will be putting my beliefs into practice when I marry again. If you still condemn me, may God have mercy on you, because judgment is merciless for those who do not show mercy.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/20/2005 9:48:17 AM
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Neuronstatic has hit it on the head. There are many interpretations to the scriptures. My wife asked me for a divorce. We had attended counceling through a base chaplain. I then found she was having a "sexual" relationship with a man over the internet (sending pictures, discussions of things). I felt very comfotable that I was moraly and Biblically released from the marriage. I do not think Jesus intended me to spend my life in that situation. I am now happiily remarried (by a minister) and I feel the marriage is blessed.
As for other peoples postings in here. I have seen some that was justy a very energized explaination of their faith, and others who were throwing rocks while living in a glass home.
Neuronstatic, may God bless your new marriage.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/20/2005 4:06:38 PM
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What I can't help but notice in this entire thread is how the anti-remarriage folk seem to turn a blind eye to questions that are valid challenges to their interpretations of the Bible.
I asked several times for people to consider Jesus' "lenient" attitude to David eating the forbidden bread, even though David broke the law to do so - not one anti-remarriage person has responded to that, as far as I can see.
Another fact that these people have also appeared to turn a blind eye to is that God IS blessing remarriages, he IS building and restoring both individuals and families in the context of remarriage, and yet not one of these anti-remarriage people has acknowledged that, as far as I can see.
My signature is Jesus' words that the devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. If a couple have remarried in Christ, are raising their children in Christ, are treating each other with the love of Christ, and if their lives are obviously bearing fruit for the Lord in encouraging their children to live for God, encouraging others to live for God, and helping each other grow in Christ, thus bearing fruit in the Lord, then obviously satan is not behind that, because that is the LAST thing satan wants to happen. These anti-remarriage people do not even acknowledge this and seem quite unable to accept that God blesses remarriage.
Each remarriage has its own factual context and history, and only the individuals involved can know in their hearts whether they were wrong to remarry or not. One of the posters here, Cheryl, believes that her remarriage was wrong and she removed herself from it. That was her conviction before the Lord, and I respect that. However, not everyone has the same conviction or lives in the same context as Cheryl. I shared a story of a family that went through this issue before the Lord, where after much prayer and seeking God's will through the Word, concluded that the Lord did not want them to break up their family. They had had previous relationships outside of God, a marriage on one side, but then married in the Lord after being saved. To break up would have meant breaking the vows they made in the Lord and would have brought about destruction to their children - just what satan ordered. However, the fruit of their family, as a whole, is obviously one of love, peace, joy, encouragement in Christ and dedication to Christ. They are a wonderful example of a loving, stable Christian family to many. It is obvious to me that the anti-remarriage folk are quite misled in their judgments of this kind of situation.
Sherri
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/20/2005 11:57:26 PM
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If I may....
I spent 2.5 very long years after my former wife asked me to separate from her waiting.....; and I waited...went into recovery for old addictive behavior issues, and waited..and got healthier, the most healthy I had been in 43 years....and worked on me....and waited....and really walked in the "until death do us part" of the marriage.
Then, after she continued w/divorce, and then after the judgement, I met someone. I felt guilty as all get out...and wondered if God was going to smite me down...but He didn't..He just kept on loving me more....
I am at a crossroads whether to stay and wait...or move on.....but realize that I was the one who didn't want to divorce... and she left for unbiblical reasons...so I feel that by God's word...not by "what He told me", that I am free to move on....
It's not what we hear..it's what is written....
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/21/2005 12:05:41 AM
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Amen keabird, and allow me to add one more thing.
It is clear that God blesses marriage after divorce when the couple put God first and live their lives for the Lord. It is clear that they produce good fruit in their children and their lives. It is clear that these things are of God, brought about by the Holy Spirit's work in their lives.
It is also clear that to call something that is of the Holy Spirit as evil and of Satan is teetering severely close to, if not over, the border of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. And that is exactly how it smells to me. To call the good works of the Spirit that produce good fruit in the restored lives and families anything other than a testimony to God's grace and power is simply blasphemy.
Very good point! I am remarried. My family is living proof that God does bestow blessings on the remarried. Blessings that are a true miracle!! There is no coincidence in it. My first marriage was filled with sin. I am so glad I found Jesus and I was able to repent of my sins. I am glad my slate was wiped clean and I was able to start again. I am not saying my current marriage is not without it's faults but as I said...we are proof positive that God does bestow blessings on the remarried!
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 11:00:45 AM
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I used to be very legalistic in my thinking. I thank God he changed that. I used to be on the side of the fence with the no divorce, no remarriage crowd. It seemed so black and white. But over the years what I thought I understood and what I saw in reality were not adding up so I knew I must have missed the truth somewhere.
For those of you who are anti-remarriage after divorce I do appreciate your dedication to what you beleive to be true. I respect you convictions though I no longer share them.
When I am not sure about what the Bible says vs what it means, meaning our interpretation is based on our limited understanding of the culture and what the people of that day understood already, I look to the Bible for examples.
I find in the book of Ester a King who divorced his Queen (wife), then sought out a new Queen (wife). It is very clear that God directed this whole thing and even chose to include the story in the Bible. While Ester had never been married before, the King certainly had. Yet God brought Ester to the King and allowed her to find favor in the Kings eye. God blessed that relationship and even used her in great way.
God would never do anything that is contrary to his word. God would not lead a person to a sinful relationship and bless it, and then condemn it as sinful.
What about David and Bathsehba? Clearly a relationship born out of adultery. Yet God chose Bathsheba to be in the linage of Christ. Not only was David not in his first marriage, he was still married to the other wives! David practiced polygamy. God never condoned having multiple wives yet God allowed it and clearly blessed it at times.
Just following the thought, Rahab the harlot. So many get hung up on the fact that she told a clear lie to protect the spies that she hid in her house. I even heard a preacher recently label her a failure for this and God blessed her anyway. Bah humbug! She was totally justified in telling the lie! Two laws were in conflict, lying and murder; she yielded to the higher law and told the lie to protect the lives of the innocent. In return God blessed her and chose her also to be in the linage of Christ. Then God placed her in the great "Hall of Faith" in Hebrews 11.
"Till death do you part." I assure you while my spouse was certainly not dead, the realationship died a long time ago.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 5:15:33 PM
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I am at a crossroads whether to stay and wait...or move on.....but realize that I was the one who didn't want to divorce... and she left for unbiblical reasons...so I feel that by God's word...not by "what He told me", that I am free to move on....
It's not what we hear..it's what is written....
Tim, the Word of God is clear in your situation: I Cor. 7:10-11.......remain UNMARRIED or be reconciled. Paul did not give the option of "moving on". In Him, Cindy
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 5:30:37 PM
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I used to be on the side of the fence with the no divorce, no remarriage crowd. It seemed so black and white. But over the years what I thought I understood and what I saw in reality were not adding up so I knew I must have missed the truth somewhere.
SD, If what you saw in the Word of God was so black and white, what in God's Word changed your mind...........or did relationship change your mind----meaning you saw what looked like "blessed" relationships even though the Word of God called them adultery?
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When I am not sure about what the Bible says vs what it means, meaning our interpretation is based on our limited understanding of the culture and what the people of that day understood already, I look to the Bible for examples. I find in the book of Ester a King who divorced his Queen (wife), then sought out a new Queen (wife). It is very clear that God directed this whole thing and even chose to include the story in the Bible. While Ester had never been married before, the King certainly had. Yet God brought Ester to the King and allowed her to find favor in the Kings eye. God blessed that relationship and even used her in great way. God would never do anything that is contrary to his word. God would not lead a person to a sinful relationship and bless it, and then condemn it as sinful.
Divorce in the OT was "tolerated".........yet what does Jesus say about those who divorce and remarry? They commit adultery. In the OT, a divorcee was ALLOWED to remarry. She was NOT called an adulteress. We see very different things in the NT vs. the OT.
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What about David and Bathsehba? Clearly a relationship born out of adultery. Yet God chose Bathsheba to be in the linage of Christ. Not only was David not in his first marriage, he was still married to the other wives! David practiced polygamy. God never condoned having multiple wives yet God allowed it and clearly blessed it at times.
Do you believe Polygamy ok with Jesus as well? We have to remember, yes, Jesus did come from David and Bathsheba's lineage, but David and Bathsheba suffered TERRIBLY for their sin........David most of all. The rest of his life was filled with sadness and loss due to his sin. I wouldn't exactly call them "blessed".........except that the Lord came from that line.
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"Till death do you part." I assure you while my spouse was certainly not dead, the realationship died a long time ago.
No relationship is truly "dead" unless one of the spouses is dead. The Lord is ABLE to revive anything that "looks" dead. The Word of God states that a woman is bound to her husband by law until death (Rom. 7:2-3, I Cor. 7:39). I would encourage you to pray for your spouse and your marriage and don't give up by entering into an adulterous marriage. You may be very sorry later down the road and then faced with the terrible decisions some brothers and sisters have had to make when the Lord convicts them of their adultery by His Word. Blessings in Him, Cindy
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 5:44:50 PM
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No relationship is truly "dead" unless one of the spouses is dead. The Lord is ABLE to revive anything that "looks" dead.
Sure he can revive anything I agree. Does he always? I don't think so.
Like anything else you speak with your Lord about - his answer can be YES, NO, Or LATER!
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 7:59:54 PM
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I have no intention of entering an adulterous marriage. When I remarry, I will say "I do" and she will say "I do" and we will be lawfully and legitimately married and it will not be an adulterous relationship at all. As for my first marriage I cannot go back to the kind of abuse and treatment that was dealt to me. I would rather die.
What changed my thinking? Understanding the scripture as a whole.
If anyone wants to blast me further go ahead, but I have stated my beliefs and don’t plan to respond any further.
For the record I do not encourage or promote divorce, but when a person comes to the point that they know that is the right answer for them then I will stand with them on their decision. Each person must come to that point on their own.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 10:01:36 PM
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I asked several times for people to consider Jesus' "lenient" attitude to David eating the forbidden bread, even though David broke the law to do so - not one anti-remarriage person has responded to that, as far as I can see.
Speaking of David. He was a polygamist. He committed adultery. He didn't divorce, but he didn't need to, he was the king and had whoever he wanted. So in the case of polygamy, was David in sin from his second marriage on? So should he have had to divorce all his wives from his second on to get right with God? Are you saying that David didn't get right with God? Or which wife was his "flesh and blood" wife, the one he is married to in God's eyes? Only Saul's daughter who bore him no children?
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/22/2005 11:39:17 PM
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lastblast
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I asked several times for people to consider Jesus' "lenient" attitude to David eating the forbidden bread, even though David broke the law to do so - not one anti-remarriage person has responded to that, as far as I can see.
Speaking of David. He was a polygamist. He committed adultery. He didn't divorce, but he didn't need to, he was the king and had whoever he wanted. So in the case of polygamy, was David in sin from his second marriage on? So should he have had to divorce all his wives from his second on to get right with God? Are you saying that David didn't get right with God? Or which wife was his "flesh and blood" wife, the one he is married to in God's eyes? Only Saul's daughter who bore him no children?
There were many things the Lord "tolerated" in the OT that He no longer tolerates, just as there are things now where Grace is extended where there was DEATH in the OT. The example of the coming Grace of Christ was shown in David and the showbread situation.........yes, there was a "rule/command" concerning who could eat this, yet Grace was extended for extenuating circumstances. David did not break a moral law though, he broke a ceremonial law. Very different. Jesus showed this same type of thing when He healed on the Sabbath. He did a GOOD thing. Trying to justify staying or entering into a biblically sinful relationship, I don't believe falls under the "good thing" category of things we see done in scripture where disobedience can be justified.
As for polygamy, it was tolerated by God, not ordained by Him in OT times. In NT times, Jesus brought marriage back to the creation intent......one woman/one man---joined BY GOD, for life. Since God is the one who joins a marriage into "one flesh", only God has the power to dissolve this union on His terms, not ours. He chooses to do so through death.
Adultery in the OT was punishable by death. In the NT Jesus extended the ability to 'repent'. Hosea and Gomer's marriage was an example of the Grace which was coming through Christ-----the Lord's longsuffering and love even in our sin. Blessings in Him, Cindy
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/23/2005 5:14:32 PM
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I am at a crossroads whether to stay and wait...or move on.....but realize that I was the one who didn't want to divorce... and she left for unbiblical reasons...so I feel that by God's word...not by "what He told me", that I am free to move on....
It's not what we hear..it's what is written....
Tim, the Word of God is clear in your situation: I Cor. 7:10-11.......remain UNMARRIED or be reconciled. Paul did not give the option of "moving on". In Him, Cindy
Sorry...two issues..
1. 1 Co 7:15
2. 1 Co 7:27-28
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No guilt in life, no fear in death, this is the power of Christ in me....Rita Springer
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 12/23/2005 11:10:08 PM
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