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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/27/2006 3:43:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic It is a sad thing to be in an army that shoots its own wounded. No, those of us who share God's Word on the topic of Divorce are not "shooting" the wounded. We are trying to apply a HEALING balm because we care about those who name the name of Christ. Jesus says that the Truth will set one free.........and "my people perish for a lack of knowledge". Many do not want to be "free", they do not want knowledge of the Word..........they desire rather to hear "smooth words" to soothe their consciences and uplift the works of the flesh. The prophets of old did not bring "smooth" words to the people of God, but exposed their sin........and they were murdered---because the people loved their works of darkness (Jn. 3:17-25). If I bring you my own word, then I deserve what I get. Yet, if I bring the LORD'S Word and that is rejected in favor of the flesh's wants/reasonings, then I stand guiltless before the Lord and the one who rejects His Word, rejects Him...........though they may profess otherwise. In Him, Cindy When you talk of "repenting of an adulterous marriage" aren't you talking about divorcing the current spouse? How is that "applying a healing balm?"
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/27/2006 3:48:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: stateofgrace Alaska, I am going to respectfully ask you to quit labeling people around here as "pro divorce." Now, I am rather on edge due to some recent surgery, and am likely not to mince words if pushed. Your language is rude and disrespectful to the utmost degree. It would be more accurate to say that some people believe that divorce is biblically allowable in certain situations....and some people don't. Of course, putting it that way doesn't give you a cute little tag line to sterotype people with, but it would be more accurate then your label is. I have never counseled someone to get a divorce. If asked, I would counsel someone to NOT initate a divorce. I WOULD counsel an abused spouse to seek shelter, with the intention that the marriage eventually be healed through prayer, discipleship and counseling. Therefore, I am NOT pro-divorce. And I once again ask you to stop using this term to describe people around here who have similarly told you that they are not pro-divorce. I have tried, I believe, in the past, to explain that even many of the divorced partiapting here, are not in favor of divorce. And many of the divorced participating here were abandoned. Many of have been treated with extreme cruelty by the very one who vowed to stay by their side...are you showing them mercy or pouring salt on their wounds? Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Matthew 5:7) Very nicely worded! I pray every thing is going well with your recovery from surgery.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/27/2006 6:17:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: Hischild1994 When you talk of "repenting of an adulterous marriage" aren't you talking about divorcing the current spouse? How is that "applying a healing balm?" Would it be a "healing balm" to counsel one who is fornicating outside of marriage to forsake the sin ? Would it be healing to counsel one in a homosexual marriage to forsake that union as the fruit of repentance? How about a man who is committing adultery against his wife and has produced a couple of kids with the other woman----would it be a "good" thing to counsel him to forsake that relationship since it is sin in the Lord's eyes? In Him, Cindy
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/27/2006 6:50:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic It is a sad thing to be in an army that shoots its own wounded. No, those of us who share God's Word on the topic of Divorce are not "shooting" the wounded. We are trying to apply a HEALING balm because we care about those who name the name of Christ. Jesus says that the Truth will set one free.........and "my people perish for a lack of knowledge". Many do not want to be "free", they do not want knowledge of the Word..........they desire rather to hear "smooth words" to soothe their consciences and uplift the works of the flesh. But Cindy, that is not the case. People who have not sinned or have sinned and repented no longer have the guilt. God does not hold guilt against a repentant sinner and God does not hold the guilt of another against an innocent. If a person sins and divorces their spouse, NO ONE can hold guilt against the innocent spouse. Yet the wounded person who has been divorced and abandoned is being "shot" by those that seek to impose their own self-righteous rules and requirements on them. You see Cindy, it is those who seek a works-based righteousness and the keeping of their own personal interpretations of the Law that are the shooters. Instead of accepting the healing balm of God's forgiveness and God's mercy that allows the wounded Christian the freedom in Christ to marry again, the shooters try to define what balm that should be applied to fit their own ideas of righteousness irrespective of the clear words of Christ. The Scriptures clearly allow for divorce for sexual immorality, and indeed clearly allow for remarriage. All those that deny these clear instructions of the New Testament are shooting the walking wounded in the army of Christ. quote:
ORIGINAL: lastblast The prophets of old did not bring "smooth" words to the people of God, but exposed their sin........and they were murdered---because the people loved their works of darkness (Jn. 3:17-25). If I bring you my own word, then I deserve what I get. Yet, if I bring the LORD'S Word and that is rejected in favor of the flesh's wants/reasonings, then I stand guiltless before the Lord and the one who rejects His Word, rejects Him...........though they may profess otherwise. In Him, Cindy The prophets of old told the UNREPENTANT nation of Israel, which was mired in their own sin and depravity to REPENT or suffer the consequences. And as we see, when God told His people to repent and they did, they were completely forgiven and God did not hold them guilty to the forgiven sins. But never did God tell His people Israel that because their neighbor sinned they were to be held accountable for the other's offenses. Furthermore, because the Pharisees loved their rules and their law more than the Law of God, and indeed counted on it for their righteousness, the message of the gospel appeared foolish to them. To be forgiven for sins without personal blood sacrifice was unthinkable. To be told that a Samaritan could inherit the kingdom of God was inconceivable. You see, the Jews always sought smooth words. In the OT times they wanted to hear that they could live like the pagan nations and God was pleased. In NT times they wanted to hear that they were doing everything right and God was pleased. In short, they wanted to hear that it was up to them when it was not. It has never been up to man, it has always been up to God. So then, the man or woman who has been loosed (1 Cor 7:27-28) is not bound and they do not sin to remarry. The reason this is so is because it is the will of God that such things happen to us in life. Nothing happens outside of God's will. Even the bad things happen with God in control, working everything together for good. And just as He allowed legitimate divorce, which is painful and terrible, it was still God that allowed it to happen in His Law, given through Moses. So then what you loose on earth is loosed in heaven. When God, through the actions of the sinner intent on evil, dissolved the marriage bonds, it was dissolved. That is the definition of divorce, the dissolution of the marriage bond. So no, it is not the seeking of smooth words that I and others look to for the grounds of legitimate divorce. It is instead the seeking of God's will for our lives, and the following of that will, not the intent of men, that leads us to the conclusion that there is legitimate divorce and the possibility of subsequent remarriage. The divorce exposes the sin of the guilty and reveals the wounds of the innocent. Deny the innocent their scriptural legitimacy, and you shoot them, over and over and over. You offer no balm, only guilt and penance. I do not follow a works based religion nor do I deny the ability of God to completely forgive sins.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/28/2006 8:00:10 PM
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What does loosed mean? My other question is something that may have been covered and I tried to read through many of the pages, but I never found it answered. I understand that if God puts two people together, no man should interfere with that. That goes with the "let no man put asunder" verse. But what if the marriage wasn't something God put together in the first place and after some years go by, one or both spouses realize they made a big mistake and shouldn't be together. What then? Its hard to wrap my mind around God making or even wanting those two people to stay together and be miserable. Sure He can fix any marriage, but we have free will. Wouldn't both spouses then need to want help from God? And if one is stubborn and refuses help of any kind due to pride and selfishness or whatever, wouldn't God give mercy to the other one and couldn't that mercy have something to do with absolving that spouse from marriage. Especially if the marriage is more of a prison then a loving covenant?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/1/2006 3:26:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: cowgirl28 What does loosed mean? Loosed means to be let go or unbound from a binding agreement. quote:
ORIGINAL: cowgirl28 My other question is something that may have been covered and I tried to read through many of the pages, but I never found it answered. I understand that if God puts two people together, no man should interfere with that. That goes with the "let no man put asunder" verse. But what if the marriage wasn't something God put together in the first place and after some years go by, one or both spouses realize they made a big mistake and shouldn't be together. What then? Its hard to wrap my mind around God making or even wanting those two people to stay together and be miserable. Sure He can fix any marriage, but we have free will. Wouldn't both spouses then need to want help from God? And if one is stubborn and refuses help of any kind due to pride and selfishness or whatever, wouldn't God give mercy to the other one and couldn't that mercy have something to do with absolving that spouse from marriage. Especially if the marriage is more of a prison then a loving covenant? We need to remember that God is in control of all things and allows us to make mistakes. He may allow us to experience the consequences of our actions - even after we have repented and asked forgiveness. It is important to remember that God can and will do miraculous things. We need to seek His will for our lives and follow His leading. It may be His will to take that horrible marriage and transform it. It may happen quickly or it might take a lifetime, but if we are listening to Him and actively seeking Him - He is faithful to answer. In other cases, God hardens the heart of the spouse and they leave - never to return. As the other spouse picks up the pieces, God may direct their steps to remain single or to remarry. The KEY thing is to be listening and open to His leading. The difficult thing is then to figure out how to know when God is speaking and when it is not God's voice we hear. God is faithful to speak to our hearts, He will not go against His nature, although His will may not always make sense to us. The point is to know God as intimately as possible - so that we (as His sheep) will know His voice and know who to follow. I know that this doesn't really seem like an answer, but I hope that maybe it helps a little.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 9:14:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: Hischild1994 When you talk of "repenting of an adulterous marriage" aren't you talking about divorcing the current spouse? How is that "applying a healing balm?" Would it be a "healing balm" to counsel one who is fornicating outside of marriage to forsake the sin ? Would it be healing to counsel one in a homosexual marriage to forsake that union as the fruit of repentance? How about a man who is committing adultery against his wife and has produced a couple of kids with the other woman----would it be a "good" thing to counsel him to forsake that relationship since it is sin in the Lord's eyes? In Him, Cindy God hates divorce. You're encouraging people to get divorced again.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 1:33:48 PM
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ORIGINAL: Hischild1994 God hates divorce. You're encouraging people to get divorced again. Did God hate the putting away of the unlawful wives in Ezra 9-10? No, it was required in repentance. They did it to restore the favor of God upon them. In the same way, if someone is committing adultery, repentance means to stop sinning in THAT relationship which is not honored by God. That is a HUGE difference from putting away a covenant spouse----THAT is what God hates---especially when it is done treacherously. We have His commands when it may be necessary to separate: Remain UNMARRIED or be reconciled (I Cor. 7:10-11). In Him, Cindy
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 2:08:27 PM
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One more thing, remember that God was commanding the Israelites to put away their pagan wives. You cannot equate that to every Joe and Jane on the street. Israel had a special calling to be pure and undefiled. And the Israelites defiled themselves by attaching to pagan women. So then, that analogy does not hold with the divorce between two believers over adultery. That is a completely different situation.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 2:23:41 PM
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God hates divorce. You're encouraging people to get divorced again. In Mal. the hating of divorce is in the context of the wife of his youth suggesting the first lawful marriage. Mal. also refers to the one flesh concept after the Adam and Eve scenario. The leaving and cleaving of which Jesus spoke also was in reference to a first lawful marriage because it is also directly related to Adam and Eve. Since Jesus said that to remarry is adultery, it is understood to be a remarriage while the first lawful spouse is alive. Paul said it perfectly in 1 Cor. 7:39. Jesus does not hate the repentance from adultery, which repentance will involve the putting asunder of that adulterous marriage.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 7:27:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic So then Cindy you do agree that God can command divorce and indeed He then is the one that puts a marriage asunder? Of course, if it's an UNLAWFUL marriage that He did not "join" as ONE.........homosexuals, adulterers, incestuous marriages, etc........all fit the bill. These "unions" are not joined by God as they are sinful relationships. In Him, Cindy
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 7:28:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic Israel had a special calling to be pure and undefiled And we do not?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/7/2006 9:51:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic So then Cindy you do agree that God can command divorce and indeed He then is the one that puts a marriage asunder? Of course, if it's an UNLAWFUL marriage that He did not "join" as ONE.........homosexuals, adulterers, incestuous marriages, etc........all fit the bill. These "unions" are not joined by God as they are sinful relationships. In Him, Cindy So then, if you deem the marriage unlawful, then God can dissolve it. What about the women who married the Israelites? Because of their Law, I am pretty sure they used proper marriage procedure. They were legally married. And they consumated a one flesh union. Yet you do not consider it lawful. Why? Oh because God dissolved it. Therefore are you willing to say that if God dissolves other marriages through divorce they are not lawful? Or only the ones that meet your personal criteria?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 9:08:46 AM
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ADMIN'S NOTE :: ATTENTION PLEASE To everyone, I want to be very clear about something. The purpose of this thread is to dicuss the TOPIC of divorce. It is NOT for the purpose of discussing YOUR divorce. I have found that people who post with statements like, "so because I divorced my spouse I am now forever a sinner and never to be forgiven?" are opening themselves up to being hurt or hurting someone else. If you are not able to participate in this topic without discussing the experience of YOUR divorce then I must request that you stay out of the thread. Posts which ignore this warning will be removed without warning and may result in other action in accordance with the Terms of Service. Thank you for your attention, understanding, and cooperation. Please do not reply to this message within the Community. Please email Community@salemwebnetwork.com with questions, comments, or concerns. Please do not send me PMs regarding this message.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 8:01:26 PM
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So then, if you deem the marriage unlawful, then God can dissolve it. Not quite. If a marriage is adultery because one of the partners has a living lawful spouse, then it is God who says that marriage is adultery as per 1Cor. 7:39 Mark 10:2-12 and Luke 16:18. If the NT commanded the husband to divorce his wife after her adultery, then yes, one could claim that the divorce for adultery is not man's doing but God's. But since the divorce for adultery people claim the man has a choice to divorce if she commits adultery, then the doing is very plainly placed into the hands of man. But Jesus said "let not man put asunder" when addressing lawful marriages after the pattern of Adam and Eve. The "till death do us part' folks fully agree that man may not put asunder that lawful marriage while as the pdf maintain that man may very well put it asunder. I think a first grader can see that something is wrong with the PDF position. Jesus says "let not man put asunder", but the PDF interpret a complex sentence with the result that Jesus didn't at all mean "let not man put asunder"? Ok everyone, get ready, we may be getting hit with: " 'let not man put asunder' doesn't really mean that in the Greek".
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 8:22:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic So then, if you deem the marriage unlawful, then God can dissolve it. No, if GOD deems a marriage unlawful, the "two" were never joined as "one" by Him to begin with. It matters not what secular law states to the contrary. If 2 homosexuals marry, they are NOT joined in the eyes of God. They just need to forsake their sin, which may include a secular/civil divorce as part of their repentance. I believe the same holds true to adulterous marriages and to incestuous marriages. In Him, Cindy
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 9:14:11 PM
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Sorry - I don't know Greek... The IDEAL for marriage is that it be permanent. Yes, that was God's intent and plan. The problem? SIN. Homosexuality is a different issue all together. In the law it is addressed separately from adultery and indeed it is a separate issue. God wants us to live according to His will - most of all He wants us to seek Him. If we are faithful to seek Him, He will be faithful to work in our lives and our hearts. Matthew 7 Judging Others 1 "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5 "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. 6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. Prayer and the Golden Rule 7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 "For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 "Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? 10 "Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? 11 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him! 12 "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 9:42:31 PM
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12 "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets. Because many of the divorced will go to hell by way of what is being endorsed by most churches, it is love to enlighten the divorced and to warn them in the strongest possible way because hell isn't worth it. The love of Christ is what constrains those like lastblast to pull the endangered out of the fire. Yes, I am judging . Exactly what Jesus said I am supposed to do. Because I am not judging according to appearance but righteously. Does anyone want the scripture where Jesus said that is what we are supposed to do? How can we warn, exhort and rebuke, as the scripture commands, if we can't allow the word to identify dangers that those duties are worthy of? It is the pdf who are judging unrighteously by judging the love of Christ working through the likes of lastblast and 1956Ford and others as being not the love of Christ. The Pharisees did not have it in them to recognise the harsh rebukes Jesus directed at them as being expressions of the mercy and love of God.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/8/2006 10:02:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: neuronstatic So then, if you deem the marriage unlawful, then God can dissolve it. No, if GOD deems a marriage unlawful, the "two" were never joined as "one" by Him to begin with. It matters not what secular law states to the contrary. If 2 homosexuals marry, they are NOT joined in the eyes of God. They just need to forsake their sin, which may include a secular/civil divorce as part of their repentance. I believe the same holds true to adulterous marriages and to incestuous marriages. In Him, Cindy I can agree on that one.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/9/2006 6:25:35 AM
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Will God allow one that is His child, if they seek Him, to stay in a sinful situation? There are those that are divorced, not of their own choosing, that are following and seeking God. If they are flollowing as He directs, He will not lead them astray. God uses their situations for ministry to others, and refinement for themselves.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/9/2006 9:39:21 AM
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Because many of the divorced will go to hell by way of what is being endorsed by most churches, it is love to enlighten the divorced and to warn them in the strongest possible way because hell isn't worth it. The love of Christ is what constrains those like lastblast to pull the endangered out of the fire. Whoa. We are saved and going to heaven because of what Jesus Christ did for us on the Cross of Calvary. Divorce isn't going to send a Christian to hell. Sin isn't going to send a Christian to hell. Christians aren't going to hell because we've been bought with the blood of Jesus. Neither Lastblast nor anybody else can pull the "endangered" out of hell by warning against divorce--especially not the Christian who is in no such danger. For the nonChristian, it really doesn't matter because marriage, divorce, adultery, whatever isn't what saves or condemns them to hell. They are condemned because they know not Jesus.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/9/2006 9:40:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: hunterjumper777 Will God allow one that is His child, if they seek Him, to stay in a sinful situation? There are those that are divorced, not of their own choosing, that are following and seeking God. If they are flollowing as He directs, He will not lead them astray. God uses their situations for ministry to others, and refinement for themselves. IF they truly belong to the Lord, NO, He will not leave them PERMANENTLY in their sin unknowingly. But, that does not mean He will not allow them to be deceived........for a time. Maybe it may be that the child of God WANTS to be deceived......fighting to excuse what they KNOW to be wrong. As I said in the other thread on remarriage, God does not have differing moral standards for His children. All one needs to ask themselves who are divorced: WHAT WOULD JESUS DO in regards to the spouse who they are divorced from? If your actions towards that spouse do NOT reflect what Jesus would do, then clearly a wrong choice was made and needs to be corrected. We no longer belong to ourselves and we do not live for "today".........we live for eternity and THAT is what should direct our steps.........In Him, Cindy
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 3/9/2006 9:45:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: laura... Divorce isn't going to send a Christian to hell. Sin isn't going to send a Christian to hell. The problem is not divorce, it is in the REMARRIAGE(adultery). Paul clearly DOES teach to those who professed to know Christ, not to be deceived............those who practice such things (including adultery) will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Do you say otherwise? Can you explain why Paul was saying such things to those who were in THE CHURCH if it does not apply to them?? In Him, Cindy
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